haws bah gawd 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Dreamer winning the title at ONS would be quite appropriate. Knowing WWE though, if they were to go in that direction, they would have Dreamer win, then cut some emotional speech about how "he just wanted to see if he still had it". Then he would immediately announce his retirement following the win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiLeaf33 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Dreamer winning the title at ONS would be quite appropriate. Knowing WWE though, if they were to go in that direction, they would have Dreamer win, then cut some emotional speech about how "he just wanted to see if he still had it". Then he would immediately announce his retirement following the win. I have no real issues with that scenario. Thats if Tommy wants to hang them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Dreamer winning the title at ONS would be quite appropriate. Knowing WWE though, if they were to go in that direction, they would have Dreamer win, then cut some emotional speech about how "he just wanted to see if he still had it". Then he would immediately announce his retirement following the win. Or in typical ECW fashion, after cutting the speech, someone comes out, destroys him and wins the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haws bah gawd 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Dreamer winning the title at ONS would be quite appropriate. Knowing WWE though, if they were to go in that direction, they would have Dreamer win, then cut some emotional speech about how "he just wanted to see if he still had it". Then he would immediately announce his retirement following the win. Or in typical ECW fashion, after cutting the speech, someone comes out, destroys him and wins the title. To kind of emphasize what I stated earlier. Having Tommy finally get the win over Swagger in an Extreme Rules match, at ONS would be the perfect way to send him off. Tommy's promo could be about how he just wanted to see if he still had it. Now he knows that he does, and he'll never have to worry about what might have been. He tearfully retires as ECW Champion. It could go down as a classic WWE PPV moment if they do it right. You're probably right though HSJ. WWE will pull some bullshit where some new up-and-coming heel will hit the ring, challenge Dreamer, destroy him, and become champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Maybe they could just dissolve ECW that night. When does the new Superstars show start on WGN? When does the contract end with Sci-Fi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 What's going on with RVD these days? Any chance that he's a surprise entrant in the Rumble and/or faces Swagger for the ECW Title at Mania? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Dreamer winning the title at ONS would be quite appropriate. Knowing WWE though, if they were to go in that direction, they would have Dreamer win, then cut some emotional speech about how "he just wanted to see if he still had it". Then he would immediately announce his retirement following the win. Or in typical ECW fashion, after cutting the speech, someone comes out, destroys him and wins the title. As much as I like Dreamer, I would laugh my ass off if that happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Why is everybody so desperate for show to dissolve and rosters to get merged. Last time I checked business was doing okay, no? Did I miss the sudden reason to panic about the current state of the company, or has it been 3 months already since the last time somebody said they should end the draft split (this arguement founded, 2002)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 BECUZ I DON'T LIKE THERE NEW GUYS... GIVE ME EVERY SHOW FULL OF HHH, HBK, CENA, TAKER, ORTON, AND EDGE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 I figured Swagger would win by DQ to keep his undefeated streak going and then put the rematch at RR with him winning it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 So, Jack fucking Swagger is now a "World" Champion. The "World Title" status of the ECW Championship was informally withdrawn when Chavo Guerrero appeared in the Royal Rumble last year. Seriously, are we going to have this argument again? I apologize for for discussing, not arguing, shit on a message board that was obviously designed for anything but discussion... It's not that, it's just we have this same "discussion" if you will every two to three months that get us no where. Must be difficult to ignore. Hulk Hogan was a World Champion and was in the Royal Rumble. The fact is that you can't say the ECW Title isn't a World Title simply because the champ is in a Royal Rumble match. Stop acting like you're above criticizing. That's an idiotic argument. Hulk Hogan was in those Rumbles when they didn't decide who got the title shots at WrestleMania. The WWE/World Champion has never been in a Rumble after 1991. I figured you were smarter than that. It's very obvious WWE doesn't view the ECW Title these days on the same level as the other two. And when they tried to, nobody in their right mind thought The Undertaker was going to choose to face Bobby Lashley for the ECW Title in the main event of WM23. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Hey...Now Jack Swagger is only 15 title wins away from Ric Flair's record!!! ... Chavo too!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Why is everybody so desperate for show to dissolve and rosters to get merged. Last time I checked business was doing okay, no? Did I miss the sudden reason to panic about the current state of the company, or has it been 3 months already since the last time somebody said they should end the draft split (this arguement founded, 2002)? Who said anything about ending the "brand extension"?? We're talking about the dissolving of ECW. For me, I'm not desperate for it, but I think it would be a smarter idea in terms of talent consolidation and bolstering the other two rosters. There really is NO point to an ECW brand/show (especially a roster that only has, what, 10 active wrestlers on it?) that a RAW/Smackdown multi-brand show (like a new version of HeAT) couldn't accomplish. It can still exist on it's own. It can still have great matches with new talent, it just doesn't need to be the SAME MATCHES every single week from the same < 10 man roster. Get rid of the ECW title, and bring in a TV title that's defended every week, maybe even make this a place where the tag team division can also get a chance to re-establish itself, and bam, you've got a show that I'd tune in to watch for sure. If you have the point to why exactly ECW the brand/show needs to exist then I'd love to hear it. It's worth about as much as the WCW brand name these days anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Tommy Dreamer's joining the Mafia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 If his contract expires June 6th....that's the day BEFORE One Night Stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 They'll probably do an angle off that. Interesting, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 I know this is probably an impossibility, but I would LOVE for WWE to pull a swerve, have Tommy Dreamer win the Royal Rumble, then challenge for the ECW title at WrestleMania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 If you have the point to why exactly ECW the brand/show needs to exist then I'd love to hear it. It's worth about as much as the WCW brand name these days anyway. Sure. First, they have a contract with Sci-Fi and it does some of the best ratings on the network and it's a good platform to develop new talent, and allow some older talent (Matt Hardy, Finlay) to help mentor the younger talent. I know this is probably an impossibility, but I would LOVE for WWE to pull a swerve, have Tommy Dreamer win the Royal Rumble, then challenge for the ECW title at WrestleMania. Yea, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Did Striker really call a Slop Drop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 YES!!!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 SWAGGER!~!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Bob Barron finally capitalized his name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 I didn't choose it. Czech changed it, and it's not letting me change it back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 His theme song starts OHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH and I agree. Finally an ECW champion I like again. First time since.. Henry. So not too long ago. but OHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 ONE TWO ONE TWO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 If you have the point to why exactly ECW the brand/show needs to exist then I'd love to hear it. It's worth about as much as the WCW brand name these days anyway. Sure. First, they have a contract with Sci-Fi and it does some of the best ratings on the network and it's a good platform to develop new talent, and allow some older talent (Matt Hardy, Finlay) to help mentor the younger talent. Well I pretty much covered that part with.. It (edit: as in the show in it's timeslot on Sci-Fi) can still exist on it's own. It can still have great matches with new talent, it just doesn't need to be the SAME MATCHES every single week from the same < 10 man roster. Get rid of the ECW title, and bring in a TV title that's defended every week, maybe even make this a place where the tag team division can also get a chance to re-establish itself, and bam, you've got a show that I'd tune in to watch for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 I don't understand what your argument is- do you just not like them using the ECW name? ECW's been dead since 2001, I don't see the big deal. I'll admit to not watching ECW, because the Mentalist and hockey are usually on at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 They could call it Smokey Mountain Wrestling and I still wouldn't care what the name of it is. I just think it's pointless to have it as it's own brand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Except most of the time ECW is more entertaining than Raw and Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristianna 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Except most of the time ECW is more entertaining than Raw and Smackdown. I'm speechless. Are you trolling? Or did you really mean that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites