alfdogg Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Posted February 18, 2009 Forget that Carter for McGrady deal, McGrady confirmed today that he does in fact need microfracture surgery, and is done for the season.
Guest Vitamin X Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Apparently, there's a trade rumor now that the Blazers are looking to add Vince Carter, and giving up Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez, and Raef Lafrentz's contract for him. That would be a really good deal, actually, although sadly it would probably make Rudy Fernandez upset at losing the guy who makes him look the best.. but honestly, Sergio's not that good; he's been pretty disappointing this year and while losing Outlaw would hurt, getting Vince in return would more than make up for it. I like this a lot better than getting Amare Stoudamire; the only problem is if I really want to see a guy with known attitude problems in the past come to Portland right now. I also think it's a pretty big question of if Martell Webster is healthy enough to come back this year and if he is, can he contribute? Outlaw has been the star of the bench alongside with Rudy and Joel, so it would be a tough loss there. At least this keeps Bayless on the team, though.
Guest Czech please! Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 The Rockets will never get out of the first round. lolthatshewantsisanotherbabyshesgonetomorrow "When you have a team that's not performing, it's an organization failure," Reinsdorf said of the Bulls. "You win and lose as an organization." Seeing how it's his organization, that makes Reinsdorf the failure behind the failure, the idiot who wasn't smart enough to keep Jordan around longer as a player -- or, for that matter, in the organization -- and the overseer of the 1999-to-2009 farce. If he insists on prioritizing baseball over basketball, he should do the city a favor and sell the Bulls to someone who cares. Salient point from that guy nobody likes for insulting Tim Cowlishaw on ESPN.
Cheech Tremendous Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 So does McGrady retire after the surgery or is he going to come back and hobble around as a shell of his former self like Penny Hardaway? Decent stats aside, he looked cooked this year. Some of that may be the knee, but I don't see surgery as the gateway to regaining his peak athletic form. What does this do to Houston? Do they still try and acquire Carter by using Artest and Battier or do they pack it up and call it a season?
alfdogg Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Posted February 18, 2009 According to ESPN, the Rockets and Nets are still discussing Carter, with the Nets' proposal being Carter and Josh Boone for Artest/Battier/Head/Landry.
PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 So does McGrady retire after the surgery or is he going to come back and hobble around as a shell of his former self like Penny Hardaway? He's already hobbling around as a shell of his former self. Watching him try to play this year was just heartbreaking. R.I.P
Steviekick Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 According to ESPN, the Rockets and Nets are still discussing Carter, with the Nets' proposal being Carter and Josh Boone for Artest/Battier/Head/Landry. With McGrady's future so uncertain, that's a ridiculous trade for Houston to consider. As long as Yao/Artest stay healthy, I think they can be a playoff team.
naiwf Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 According to ESPN, the Rockets and Nets are still discussing Carter, with the Nets' proposal being Carter and Josh Boone for Artest/Battier/Head/Landry. With McGrady's future so uncertain, that's a ridiculous trade for Houston to consider. As long as Yao/Artest stay healthy, I think they can be a playoff team. Considering that Yao rarely stays healthy and that Houston couldn't get out of the first round even with T-Mac, I would say getting a young big and VC is better than making the playoffs and losing in the first round anyway. The window just slammed shut on any hopes of them winning a title as presently constituted and they might as well start trying to restock before Yao gets any older and eventually becomes a shell of himself too.
Cheech Tremendous Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 The Rockets need to go for it now because that window is closing fast. Adding Carter to Yao is a move that could get them somewhere in the playoffs even if it comes with a ton of risk. We know Artest has no future there, so it's basically a swap of Battier for Carter long-term. I don't think that McGrady will be back next year so if there is an opportunity to add an All-Star player to the lineup you do it.
Just John Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 According to ESPN, the Rockets and Nets are still discussing Carter, with the Nets' proposal being Carter and Josh Boone for Artest/Battier/Head/Landry. The biggest plus to this trade for Houston is that they'd actually have a real back-up center with Boone. A starting lineup of Alston, Wafer, Carter, Scola, and Yao seems alright, but the bench would be pretty thin after the deal. Doesn't seem like that big of an upgrade offensively, and it's a downgrade defensively.
Cheech Tremendous Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 The Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings have reached tentative agreement on a trade sending Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden and Cedric Simmons to the Kings for Brad Miller and John Salmons, ESPN.com. Link According to the Sacramento Bee, the Kings also traded Michael Ruffin to the Portland Trailblazers for Ike Diogu and $1 million in cash.
Guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Ike Diogu's heading from Portland to Sacramento as part of the same deal, as stated in the link. Bust.
Guest Czech please! Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 aw sweet! Now we have two White Panthers!
Cheech Tremendous Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Brad Miller's good, but I don't see how he makes a big improvement long-term. He could be a missing piece for several teams out there, but in Chicago he's wasted. As for Salmons, I must ask: how many one-dimensional wing players do the Bulls need?
PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 At least they got rid of Nocioni and his awful contract.
Guest Czech please! Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Brad Miller's good, but I don't see how he makes a big improvement long-term. He doesn't. Expiring contract for 2010. Such is life in the NBA. He could be a missing piece for several teams out there, but in Chicago he's wasted. The coach is Vinny Del Negro; everyone's being wasted. At least they got rid of Nocioni and his awful contract. I was under the impression that his contract was frontloaded and the worst of it had already been paid off. I didn't mind Nocioni. His flopping irritated me, but that's SOP for international white guys (sounds like a bad spy movie, in-ter-nash-uh-nul WHITE GUY!!!! DA DA DA DAAAAA), so whatever. There are other players I'd rather see leave and never come back, like that fluffy-haired pothead goof who doesn't know who he's guarding or which position he's playing. Rumor is that Kirk Hinrich is the next to go. That doesn't make much sense.
alfdogg Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 The Lakers traded Chris Mihm to the Grizzlies for a conditional second-round pick in 2013. What, they couldn't have given them O.J. Mayo as a throw-in?
Guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 I didn't know teams were allowed to trade picks that are THAT FAR AWAY. In any case, something's up. Whether it be via free agency or trade, I don't think we're going to ride this season out with Mbenga being the backup center.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Filed under "bizarre": The Thunder have rescinded the trade for Tyson Chandler after he failed a physical. Must have been something major or some very weird buyer's remorse, given that they seemed to be getting the much better end of that deal.
Adam Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 ...and following on from that last post, it turned out to be a toe injury.
YourKock'sReallyGreat Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 NBA warns teams about shrinking cap By Adrian Wojnarowski and Johnny Ludden, Yahoo! Sports The NBA sent out an ominous memo to its teams on the eve of the league’s trade deadline to outline dramatic projected drops in salary-cap and luxury-tax levels for the next two summers, Yahoo! Sports has learned. Because of rapidly declining revenues, the league office delivered a sobering warning to teams trying to free cap space for the historic free-agent class of 2010: Owners and executives will likely have to strip more payroll than initially planned. At a time when most of the league’s teams are trying to shed salary, these stark projections did nothing to encourage the absorbing of top talent and pricey contracts in the final hours leading up to Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET trade deadline. “They’re scaring the crap out of the people,” one Western Conference executive said Wednesday night. “There were already not enough buyers in this market, and after seeing that [memo], there are even less now.” One West GM predicted the market could become even more flooded after the season. “You’re not going to believe the number of players that will be out there [on the trade market],” he said. “But I don’t know how many teams will be willing to take them on.”
alfdogg Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 Rashad McCants and Calvin Booth to Sacramento for Shelden Williams and Bobby Brown, per the Sacramento Bee. Rumor from Yahoo Sports: Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic.
Just John Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Shaq + Elite Wing Player Round 3 would have to make the Cavs the favorite for the title this year. The Suns would benefit by getting Shaq out of the run and gun and getting a good 3-pt shooter in Pavlovic. I don't think it would help the Suns that much, but it's ok as a Steve Kerr "Hey, sorry, I fucked up" move.
alfdogg Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 SAS reports Larry Hughes to the Knicks for Tim Thomas and Jerome James.
alfdogg Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 The Bulls also get Anthony Roberson. Also, Malik Rose to the Thunder for Chris Wilcox.
Matt Young Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 SAS reports Larry Hughes to the Knicks for Tim Thomas and Jerome James. So do the Bulls cut Tim Thomas again?
alfdogg Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 I think they'll keep him around this time. He was cut last time because Scott Skiles didn't like him, IIRC.
alfdogg Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 Latest rumor to pop up is Nate Robinson and Jared Jeffries to the Kings for Kenny Thomas. Another "clear money for 2010" deal for the Knicks.
Darthtiki Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Rashad McCants and Calvin Booth to Sacramento for Shelden Williams and Bobby Brown, per the Sacramento Bee. Rumor from Yahoo Sports: Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic. Maybe it's how disconnected to anything Kings related but how does this help them. I'm bummed that we dumped Bobby Brown (he played at my Alma Mater).
Guest Czech please! Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 I thought the Maloofs were just cutting salary anywhere they could. Not a good time to be in the casino business.
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