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I've said this, but it looks just like an updated Raw 2. I don't get what's so fucking hard for XBox to make the game like No Mercy. It's not that hard.

So you are saying a ***** match doesn't factor in how significant it is and how many people see it? So what if my sister and I had yelling arguments for 2 months, then I beat the shit out of my sister for 20 minutes in front of 300 people at my school and constantly beat on her arm...does that make it a ****1/4? Or if I wrestled my friend in a backyard fed match that was ****3/4 in front of 10 people? And your statement about how only WWE can have MOTY is bullshit...NWA-TNA is now global, they are on PPV. And I'd say the cage match with AMW/XXX has more of chance of being match of the year then any ROH or Japan match mainly because more people saw it. You even admitted it...more people voted for Benoit/Angle being MOTY because more people saw it/cared for it then some ROH match. It's not just like that on the internet...it's on like that everywhere so until ROH gets a cable/TV deal and starts to become known other then the Northeast and shows with 300 people...let me know. Am I dissing on their wrestling quality? Absoultely not. But that doesn't mean it's MOTY, in my opinion...and about 65% of the people agree.

London on Raw? Good, Dreamer needed some more people to squash on Heat.

That's why I don't bother getting PPVs anymore and paying full price...I'll pay 5 bucks and get them at my friend's house and chill with all of them...and then I'll buy it if it's good or not if it sucks. Pay 35 bucks, then another 20 is just stupid.

Am I the only one who thinks it's fine that only NINE posts are in this topic?

I think it's pretty funny that Savage bashes Hogan every chance he gets, and he assumes that Hogan will do business with him at Mania 20 and it probably won't even do much to help the buyrate? And god forbid how much both of them will want to show up at it.

And I think I have to say I know this is 100% true more than anyone else because I was there (even though I think everyone knows that by now).

Here's my argument...it's a lot easier to get the attention of 500, "smart mark" fans who go to ROH to watch wrestling as opposed to 15,000, common/mixed "smart mark"/mark fans who are there to see everything. I'm sure I could get 500 people's attention for 45 minutes if I did the right things. That's probably one of the only things holding back on a match like Styles/London being a MOTY because you have to factor in the signficance of it and because ROH isn't a global promotion yet, then I really can't say they have match of the years. Sure, great matches and solid wrestling...but "the common folk" could give a shit about them. I think I really don't have to defend myself anymore...just look at the poll.

Eh, I dunno. That ended up being a throw away PPV that no one cared about, while Fight meant something in the long run. Both are good, but I liked the Fight one better.

Kanyon not being pushed his beyond me. He's got the heel heat, he's got a great moveset with literally modified moves every match, good chrisma, decent look...and he's stuck on Velocity. I don't get it.

Savage just needs to shut the fuck up, and realize his time past a LONG time ago. Even Hogan knows his bullshit.

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Even though you took my idea of the text and a picture sig, Bravesfan, I must compliment you on how awesome that is with Jericho from the Mania 19 buildup package. Very nice.

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Can you post their heel theme they used last? I think it's their 2nd. Thanks.

Wasn't that Raven thing during the time Kanyon was doing that? I seem to remember Kanyon doing that.

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Certain a shock when I heard it this morning. I remember watching him on Conan with Dana Carvey & Ted Nugget a few months ago talking about his testicle that came out of his boxers for a brief still on Three's Company and some guy suing. Rest in peace...

The Benoit/Sabu thing...I think Sabu was asking for it, to be honest. He could of easily landed on his upper back and be okay. Styles/Kazarian hasn't been mentioned because the internet loves Styles & Kazarian ain't that great.

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Here's the weird thing about "Fight"...when it first came out, I liked it with the Nu-Metal type voice....then they had the WWE "End is Here" voice guy do it...and I liked that MUCH better. The 1st version of Fight is on the DVD, and I didn't like that as much as the Anthology version....but when Anthology came out, I liked the DVD version better. So really when you think about it, that song is great...twice. And even though Fight was for the whole event...it was PERFECT, I mean PERFECT for HBK/HHH.

No offense to ROH or anything..and I like their product, but what was that in front of? Under 5,000 fans I'm guessing. Benoit/Angle was at a sold out Fleet Center in Boston and 500,000 buyrates on PPV. When, even the average mark, looks back on 2003 for the best match...most people will say Benoit/Angle. Edit: Once again no offense to ROH, but it seems like if a headlock is good they'll give those guys a standing ovation. That's exaggerating, but standing ovations mean as much as they did in ROH when they used to happen in ECW all the time. Now...WWE is a totally different story. You have to EARN it from the fans and it's very, VERY special when you get it...that's why they are so rare.

*light bulb just hit* Duh. Limp Bizkit - Eat You Alive.

I think they should use Adrenaline again. Great song that never gets old. As far as my guess of what it will be....can't think of anything. I'd like to see Chrima - Down Again, personally.

Rock being in Predator 3 would fucking rock. If it's just like, if not better, then the first one script wise, it will be a big, big hit. Just don't let it be like 2...yuck. They also need to get a good selection of guys like the 1st one with Arnold, Weathers, Ventura, etc.