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Who cares? This gives Canadian dominance a chance to keep on running wild.

Disco Bloodbath. I want to read this. I cannot find it anywhere for a reasonable price. Does anyone want to be generous enough to help a brother out?

I think Lesnar could beat him up with GnP. Sapp would not be able to last long on the bottom. Sapp isn't exactly the most accomplished submissions artist either. I don't think Lesnar would have to worry too much.

VItor would always beat Sak, that just makes his heart look that much worse, for not going through the injury. There's no reason that Saku should have been able to beat him. He probably matches up better with Sak than Silva.

I agree on both counts, as Kerr's drugs helped him avoid getting hurt, which seemed to be his biggest problem. Although we haven't really seen him without the drugs. Wes Sims isn't the greatest test, but it's the best we have so far.

You can go through many fights with Vitor where he should have won but didn't because of his (lack of) heart.

Sounds like a guy who might need to catch a good beating, that's all. In fairness to him, he just seemed like a guy who wanted to fight. That quote might be off a little bit. So some guys aren't tough due to wrestling, but a guy like him who went through all the shitkicking and injuries required to do what he had to do should be considered tough. Besides, Kerr was tough, he just fell apart due to drugs, and is actually fighting again this week. A knock against Lesnar might be that people thought he lacked toughness when he quit the WWE. He won't be as bad as Severn. His athleticism won't allow it. He probably won't gas, if his career in wrestling amateur and pro is any indication. Also, he seems willing to learn.

He's stated on numerous occasions that he wished there were no laws that would stop him from just picking a random person and beating the shit out of them on the street. Seems like tough guy talk to me if not having something wrong with you. Also, he has shown through wrestling that he could fall ten feet on his head damn near breaking his neck and going on to finish what he started. It's a different kind of toughness, but it's still tough. He won an NCAA championship in wrestling. You have to be tough to wrestle that amount of people in a day and be champ at the end. It's different than taking a punch, but he's got that Matt Hughes farm boy quality that makes me think he'll go far. I can't imagine him wilting from a punch or kick after taking the shit kickings he has in pro wrestling, worked or not. I don't know what team he's training with, but I would guess Marc Laimon's, since he's in Vegas.

I remembered it, just not sure if that was officially known as the "butters episode". But yes, the last episode was decent, but kinda weak. Not surprisingly, the best parts revolved around the boys' adventure rather than having anything to do with making fun of Al Gore or Global Warming.

Lesnar by murder. Lesnar is a tough son of a bitch, based on a number of factors. I don't think heart will be a factor. He's a very accomplished wrestler, moreso than Fujita. Of course, I'm basing my prediction on the fact that Lesnar trains with a good team. I can easily see Sapp dropping him, after being dry humped for a few minutes due to said lack of cardio. We'll see though.

Which one is the Butters episode? The one where his mom tries to kill him?

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In the other big MMA event of the night, Matt Lindland beat MVA in a LHW bout with a guillotine choke in the first round. The Law continues to prove why he should be picked up by one of the bigger shows, and is a worthy contender for either Franklin or Hendo.

The fight was also at 205, which is a weight class above what Horwich is used to.

I knew that the guy was a grappling stud, but I thought Horwich's vast MMA experience would be a factor. I thought he should have won the Ebersole fight personally, he damn near had him in a triangle at the end.

Results of the IFL show: http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfi...sp?eventid=3652 Some surprises for me at least, include Pyle and Machado losing. Not to mention, I didn't think that Horwich would lose against a guy making his pro debut. Haha, Wiuff lost to Schoenhauer by a fucking heel hook. Either Alex has improved drastically since losing to Lodune by choke in the first round, or Wiuff is really terrible. Bet on the latter.

You can always listen to the MMAWeekly radio show online.

But there are certain things you can do there that will help guys, it's not like the coaching is completely useless. Cardio and strength training are two of the main things. For Ken to completely avoid this and not have his guys stay in shape is retarded. It showed that Kristian suffered big time from not improving his cardio. Tito is not training his guys hard, he's training them smart.

Dana White has always tried to stay as far away from Pro Wrestling as he could in terms of legitimizing the sport. While he will borrow certain techniques Pro Wrestling is known for, such as building grudge matches and making big announcements, he has always expressed that he hate pro wrestling. With MMA this close to being mainstream, it would hurt the sport more than help to group it in with its retarded redneck cousin, pro wrestling.

This is a fucked up story, and it's obvious that race played a factor in the beating. However, seeing as how there's no reason to call it a hate crime since it won't add to the punishment, there's no point in calling it such. This brings up the debate of a hate crime and whether we should have them, but I think there is a bigger issue here. The fact of the matter is that most people tend to ignore the severity of these crimes if a race issue is brought up. It's really frustrating to hear people completely ignore the actual crime and debate some of the motivating factors and whether or not those should add to the penalty. These two kids should be thrown in jail for life, there's a difference between a regular fight between teens and kids and one where they beat him unconscious and then continue, going until he is near death. I'm interested to see what the sentencing will be..

Most metal groups, which can be proven by many of the responses in this thread.

It would be interesting to do a show, but right now, the answer is unfortunately no, I couldn't do one. I'm still in college (In my junior year, to be exact) and I'm way too busy with homework (among other things) to do a show. When does your school year finish? I only ask because I thought it was standard for things to be done by May.

They are encouraged not to give draws, so that's unlikely. But I don't know why Forrest was surprised that the 30-27 went to Tito. Due to the first round, I could justify 30-27 more easily for Tito than Forrest. It was still wrong though. I would say it was a 29-27 or maybe 28. The first round really was that dominating. I think the point of what he said was that if you have judges that fuck up a fight like that, eventually it will come back to bite them in the ass and they will really screw up a decision.

I would do it, but there is nothing I can play from most genres that you won't get from someone else on here who knows more about them than I do. Except maybe all kinds of dance music, though even Kotzenjunge would give me a run for my money there.

I fully expect to see Truth commercials telling me not to shovel my driveway now.