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That's amazing news! Give Art Howe a contract extension!

Wow. Really pathetic feedback thread so far. I'm sure we can do better than this..... Let's see if I can get the ball rolling. -Good segment with Chris Stevens, further establishing his increasingly nasty personality. To me, it seemed a little strange that Michael Cole - of all people - would be the one with the sarcastic comments, but oddly enough, it worked! -Great promo with GPX - Mean Gene was just hilarious - leading into a very interesting segment with Hell's Hitmen. The attack really set up a nice element of mystery for the rest of the night, as well as the idea that maybe - just maybe - there is some OAOAST conspiracy going on. Sedatives, be damned! -I really enjoyed the next interview with Black T. In fact, the interconnecting segments of all the tag teams was REALLY done well. Very glad to see that Black T are still unified in the Tag Division, and are just as bitter about losing the titles as ever. Nice, sarcastic promo with Cornette as well. All of these segments did so much to boost a Tag Team Division that was already looking mighty impressive, so great job to everyone involved! -Yet another well done backstage segment with Rick Edwards. The intensity that goes through these segments - Rick with Father/Rick with JAE/Judas with Cain/Rick with Leah - are just excellent. And I knew it was only a matter of time before Rick and Leah started getting it on -Awesome, awesome stuff from Papacita this week. I loved the creativity of using a House Show match - with Jackie Gayda, no less - to put over all of the characters in this Panther/Tina/Bryte/Kev/Jackie web. Uncle Kev has quickly established himself to be just as much an asshole as Chris Bryte, and the two have already become among the most hateable superstars in the federation. The situation with Panther constantly being arrested has also risen to a fever pitch, with Watts ordering that he and Tina will be fired if it happens again. I was just so interested with this stuff the entire way through! -Excellent Tag Title match between GPX & The New New Midnight Express. The action was great, and GPX were actually proving themselves to be VERY deserving tag team champions! I was genuinely shocked to see the NNMX win the Tag Titles at the end. GPX had seemed to be doing very well with the belts, so it just seemed like their title loss came out of left field. That's not a criticism at all - it's a compliment to those currently involved in the Tag Division that I was very much surprised with this match ending. I seriously look forward to where this is all heading at AngleSlam. -Pretty.....interesting stuff with "El Guapo Guerrero" Rick Shirley. Interesting.....and a little disturbing. Already, I'm getting a sense that this could be one of the more intriguing wrestlers - and one of the most fun - soon enough. -Tremendous stuff with the Bryte/Tina match, and everything following it. Bryte's mean streak was just CRAZY! If he was having any credibility problems following the loss to Miss Jackie, he fixed everything right here. He became a terrific badass with this one match right here. The action with Panther at the end was just written so well. His overwhelming loyalty to Tina instead of his job was sweet, but here comes Chris Bryte to ruin the moment once again! The final match between Panther and Chris Bryte is going to REALLY be something to see. Personally, it might be the match I'm now most eager to see. -Very good promo with Synth and Krista. That's definitely a unique stipulation, and something that's only going to make their AngleSlam match even hotter! For some reason, I see a happy ending for The Saints and Chicks Over Dicks. But then again......I usually suck at predicting this stuff. -Interesting developments between The Mad Cappa and Stephen Joseph. Finally, Cappa stands up to Joseph - something that he's been waiting to do for months. I'm sure they'll also have a really good match at AngleSlam. And props to the Drek Stone shoutout! That's always appreciated. -Great intensity from Hoff in his backstage interview. It's always amazing to me that Hoff can switch from being funny one week to being serious the next - and it always works! With Chris Stevens and Gunner Sharps both breathing down Hoff's neck, the 24/7 Title is quickly becoming nicely established! This was further shown in the Stevens/Gunner match afterwards. The match itself was very well-written, and the ending sequence with Stevens sacrificing his match with Gunner to get Hoff immediately did a lot to further show just how much more intense he's getting personality-wise. All three guys - as well as the 24/7 division - were really helped with this match! -Amazing stuff with Zack Malibu. His anger and paranoia over Crystal is just incredible, and his gradual mental breakdown has been handled SO well. The relationships in Thrillogy are starting to strain, all thanks to Crystal...... -Another nicely done backstage segment weaving together three separate tag teams. This one segment suddenly did a lot to show the differences between these three teams. The Frankensteiners being the more serious, technically-proficient tag team.....The Rave & Assault Squad being the team looking for revenge....and the Bryant Brothers being the pure assholes! I look forward to seeing just how the rivalry between these three teams are developed in the upcoming weeks. -Very good Main Event, with some terrific action. There was some exciting stuff here, with some really believable near-falls. This did a lot to hype up the two top matches for AngleSlam. There's not much more I can say here - great stuff with these four wrestlers, just like there always is. I can't wait to see the Crystal/Sly Sommers match next week. That should be excellent! As if you didn't know what I was going to say here. ANY feedback on the Rick Edwards/Leon Rodez match that I wrote, the Drek Stone segment with Popick, or the Drek Stone backstage interview would be GREATLY appreciated. Just what can we expect to happen between Leon Rodez and Drek Stone heading into AngleSlam?! The anticipation is killing me! What do you think?!

Ann Arbor? Who the hell goes to Ann Arbor? Somebody better comp for my plane ticket. I ain't paying to go over there....

Why is this thread not a classic yet?! We've been bamboozled!

So RVD's next feud is going to be with the ever-so-talented Kenzo Suzuki? Somehow, without fail, they always seem to find the worst guys for Van Dam to feud with.

They'll just make the tickets much more expensive than they would be otherwise. This is the Royal Rumble - people will be willing to shell out the money. This is the same mentality they had behind WrestleMania XX. A lot of people couldn't understand why they had gone from dome arenas - filled with 50,000+ seats - to suddenly bringing the show back to Madison Square Garden, which holds little over 20,000 people. Well, they also highly increased the prices of their tickets at WrestleMania XX as compared to the prices of tickets from years past. You figure this is what they will do at the Royal Rumble. Ticket prices will actually be a lot higher, bringing them near the same amount of revenue as from years past when they held the event in bigger arenas.

Right pal. I'm not the one getting uptight over a crowd reaction [the wave] that's happened thousands of times in pretty much every other arena sport for various reasons... so why the fuck not wrestling? ..and if a wrestler doesn't appreciate it - boo fucking hoo. They're getting paid out of OUR pockets. Get the fuck over it, or get the fuck lost. What an absolutely horrible point. In every other professional sport - count them. Baseball. Football. Basketball. Hockey. Soccer. Etc. - the main point is NOT to entertain the people. The main goal is to win the game. It's to get that big hit. To sink that final Three-Pointer. These sports are REAL, and the players have no vested interest in whether or not the fans are interested. So, if it takes Barry Bonds stalling at the plate for a few minutes to try to hit that homerun, it's no big deal. He wants to win the game. He couldn't care whether or not the fans are entertained - that's not his job. To pass these minutes of stalling, the fans start doing the Wave to enjoy themselves. It doesn't bother anybody. Nobody cares. Now, in wrestling, it's a completely different story. The main goal is to entertain the fans. It's to plan out that certain match to get the crowd emotionally involved. They crave to hear the fans give them a reaction or, at least, have their full attention. Now, when people start doing the Wave, that's completely disrespectful to the guys who have entire careers resting on how the fans respond to them. Taker and JBL didn't throw a horrible match out there. They didn't deserve to get that kind of treatment. They showed effort. They tried to get the crowd involved. And they got the Wave in return. Just to further hit home the point: Baseball is real. The fans aren't involved. Wrestling is fake. The fans are HIGHLY involved. It's asinine to think that there's no difference in the action of doing the "Wave" when it comes to contested sports and professional wrestling. Well, not nearly as asinine as that....

Oh, no. I just don't have the ample time to deal with every single argument that people have thrown back at me. It's good that some of us do, however. It doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculously disrespectful. I can hardly be considered a fan of either Bradshaw or The Undertaker, but I have no problem seeing that they should at least have the courtesy of being paid attention to in their Championship match. Neither of those two men are responsible for the storyline. Neither of those two men are responsible for the very fact that they've been booked to face each other at SummerSlam. But somehow - it's THEIR fault? THEY'RE deserving of getting shit all over? Both those guys actually showed some solid effort in their match. Taker tried to show off some new submission skills - skills that some around here were going absolutely apeshit over. JBL did one of the best bumping jobs I've ever seen him do. They threw in interesting false finishes, entertaining ending sequences....and what? The fans didn't even bother to pay attention. This wasn't the Goldberg/Lesnar situation. Those two guys were ditching WWE for their own reasons - reasons that had to do with NOT liking professional wrestling. Fans knew it. So they responded. To make the situation worse, Goldberg and Lesnar decided to wrestle an increasingly sluggish match, which seemed to deserve the criticisms of the fans. Taker and JBL did not do the same here. They've both been very loyal to the company, they both tried hard to put on a good match - they both deserved the common courtesy for people to pay attention without chanting "BORING!" or doing the fucking wave. Besides the London ropeflip in the Six-Man and the Top-Rope Chokeslam in Kane/Hardy, they stayed incredibly quiet throughout both of those matches. There was some hard work going on in the Six-Man, an intricate storyline placed in front of the Kane/Hardy match - and people relished the opportunity to sit on their hands. To me, that's pretty dreadful behavior. Well, Bob, congratulations. You've managed to distort my words in a pretty respectable way. I never said they weren't loud for the Three-Way. And I never said EVERY face got booed. I said nearly every face was booed and, if you would take your fingers out of your ears, you would see that's true. If they weren't booed, then everyone stayed quiet for them instead. What an amazing crowd. The mentality of the Toronto crowd against Eugene would mean so much more if they hadn't pulled the same shit all night. It's also interesting to me that the crowd was solidly against Eugene at the beginning of the match, but continued to pop for the Rock-Bottom, Stunner, Legdrop....until Eugene wound up receiving quite the mixed reaction at the end. If they were so against the character of Eugene, why did many of them wind up cheering him at the end? Surely, these respectable Canadians knew what they liked. Why on earth would they then cheer the same guy that they had vociferously booed at the beginning of the match? The sheep mentality - "Hey, I'm gonna boo this guy because those guys over there are doing the same thing! That's so cool" - played a HUGE part here. For many people there, it had nothing to do with cheering for who they liked, and booing who they disliked. It had to do with trying to look cool and seem smart, compared to all the other "idiots" that respond sensically. Whoa! Watch those hardcore comments! This isn't the "Saturday Night Live Review" thread! Nobody just insulted Norm McDonald! Hold on there, buddy, before you start throwing out insults that you don't mean. Just as a heads up, it may be smart to stop throwing out the term "idiot" to people that don't deserve it. I certainly don't think I'm an "idiot." And I don't think many of the people here calling out the Toronto crowd for their actions are "idiots." But I do think it's idiotic that someone is using the term because others have dared argue against his points, trying to establish the idea that sometimes - JUST SOMETIMES - it wouldn't be horrible to show some fucking respect to two guys working hard in the wrestling ring.

Dibiase/Roberts wasn't a WWE Championship match. And besides, the crowd at WrestleMania VI didn't prove themselves to be as frustratingly moronic as the crowd at SummerSlam. If the wave had been an isolated incident last Sunday, then I doubt there'd be the outcry there is right now. But the Toronto crowd was dreadful all night, and now they're getting called out on it.

He was kind of funny the 32nd time....

Bah. Okay, I'll bite. How so?

The magnitude of the Orton turn made the board collapse. Only Randy's washboard abs could cause such a catastrophe! Divas be damned!

Hold on there! This has been a Triple team effort. Me, you, and MUGAZsasz deserve most of the credit here.... ....and throw in Quik for that Carmella/Benoit picture too. The most fun that I've had on TSM in quite some time.

This thread should become a classic. Definitely more deserving than that 20-Page Bret/Flair nonsense...

This is a damned shame. Damn Hunter to hell! He mussed up Orton's hair! And it was looking all perfect too!! What a tragedy.....

Whoa! That was awesome.

You know what the best part of this match is? No vaginas to get in the way of all these chinlocks.

Evolution, it's time for me To jizz and splooge because here's Randy With his muscles looking ALL SHINY! Yesterday was a time to cum I'm sick of all this Diva love Boobies are a dangerous thing! EVILUTION!

Both. They get in the way of having the opportunity to watch two, three, *gasp* maybe even four sweaty men roll around the ring, their packages only inches away from being exposed! *faints*

NOT ENOUGH FUJIWARA ARMBARS!!

Shhhh... we hate boobies here on TSM. We only like FAT MOLLY HOLLY ASS. We'd fuck PORKY PIG if he could do an armbar. Holy shit, that was funny. Seriously. OMG!! I HEARD SHE COULD DO A TRIANGLE CHOKE!! *SWOON*

When did this board turn gay? Don't make me start posting Christy pictures. Edited for more hotness. Edited for more TSM hotness.

When did this board turn gay? Don't make me start posting Carmella pictures. But that has to do with the Diva Search! And their female body parts! Waste of time! Time that could be better spent.... Oh, yes.

Dear Earl Hebner, WHERE'S RANDY ORTON?! HE'S SOOOOOO CUTE! Love, The WWE fans of TSM

Why is it that I wanna bang Victoria, and slap the hsit out of her at the same time? I was talking about the HBK return promo, dude. I don't watch women's wrestling. Yeah! You tell him! Women suck! Female breasts...*shudder* Where's Randy Orton?! Such biceps! Such pecs!