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What's your favorite indy wrestling stable? Could make for a good topic. And there's certainly TONS of choices. NWA Elite (Wildside), SEX, 3 Live Kru, The Gathering, Triple X, New Church, Hi-V, Enterprise, Black Army, Extreme Horsemen, Funkin Army, Prophecy, Carnage Crew, TWA Academy (ROH), La Familia de Tijuana (MMW of Damien/Halloween, Super Crazy, & Psychosis), Los Havanas Pitbulls, Guerreros del Infiernos, etc. And there's a lot of ones that don't get the publicity they deserve, too. My first pick is La Familia, althought hey're not as well known. MMW are fantastic heels in Mexico. The Enterprise is another fav. of mine (GQ/Kaos forever), as is the Guerreros and Triple X. Thoughts?

Good point about Volador, but regarding Marvin - MLW has tried to book both him and Super Crazy, but both have been unable to come to the promotion due to visa problems.

Where'd you find this? I'd be intersted in seeing it?

Crap.

If you're going to boycott ROH for the business practices they follow, you might as well boycott CZW, IWA-MS, WWE, NJPW, BJPW, ZERO-ONE, AJPW, and every other promotion on earth b/c I could make the very same case that any other promotion has horrible business practices. CZW and IWA-MS have bounced many checks to wrestlers. WWE has screwed many wrestlers' careers permanently. etc. etc. etc. Boycotting a promotion is ridiculous, assanine, illogical, and especially - when it comes to ROH, which has one of the best products there is - ignorant.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post.

100 people ain't looking so good. So much for Barber's "BEST INDY WRESTLING CARD OF 2003" I stand by that claim. Attendance means shit. 100 fans attended XPW MBV in Philly, yet it was one of the best indy shows of this year. Says you. If it was such a great card, it would've drawn more than 100 people. Bull. All it means is a lack of advertising, as is obviously the case w/ LXW. The card was fantastic. Face it. "My point exactly. The card may have been fun to watch, but it was not a good 'buisness' card and see where the company is now." I never brought money into the equation. You guys did. I talked about it on paper and said nothing about how it would end up. I said that on paper, it was one of the best indy cards of the year and I stand by that.

It's interesting that Jeff and Hogan are meeting again. I thought Hogan would never speak to Jeff again after Bash at the Beach.

100 people ain't looking so good. So much for Barber's "BEST INDY WRESTLING CARD OF 2003" I stand by that claim. Attendance means shit. 100 fans attended XPW MBV in Philly, yet it was one of the best indy shows of this year.

http://noholdsbarredwrestling.com/columns/.../66791439.shtml News on East Coast stars on upcoming AJPW tour, Jimmy Yang's signing with WWE, the new dates for the NWA Virginia King of Virginia Tournament, news on recently announced CZW shows, Abby/Cornette's ROH returns, IWA-MS talent heading to Japan and Europe, MLW and NWA-TNA backstage info, and more.

Last Friday, John Zandig during his press conference in Florence announced 4 matches that will be on the card for the first CZW Show in Italy, CZW Shockwave! CZW Shockwave will be in Pistoia on October 25th at Palasport Arena with a 9:00 pm belltime (gate opens at 8:30). Tickets are Ringside: 25€/GA: 15€ Matches scheduled so far: CZW World Heavyweight Match Messiah vs. Zandig Tables Match Nate Hatred vs. Nick Gage Ironman Title Match Trent Acid vs. Ruckus Ladder Match B Boy vs Sonjay Dutt Tickets can be purchased at this URL Information is also available in Italian at CZWwrestling.it or NUwrestling.com CREDIT: NoHoldsBarredWrestling.com.

I was there and thought the show was great, but the attendance was in fact pretty low unfortunately. That didn't take away from the work ethic of the wrestlers, though.

You yourself admit that RVD was stiff. What you don't admit was that he was TOO stiff, to the point that wrestlers were complaining. So I think HHH would have a legit complain about RVD, considering HHH is a fantastic worker, 10x that of RVD, who doesn't wrestle, but rather does gymnastics. HHH may be a moron, but he's not wrong in every case, although I know so many of you would like to think that he is.

1Wrestling.com is reporting that Jimmy Yang has signed developmental deal with WWE. He was said to have impressed officials with his match vs. Tommy Dreamer that aired on WWE Sunday Night HeAT a few weeks ago. Yang worked as a Jung Dragon under the name of Yung Yang in WCW.

And besides the ones in ROH, the Grimes/Luke/Guido match was the best three-way I've seen in a LONG time.

I do. I'm going to LXW tonight and in the next few weeks, ROH, NEWF, and others.

But it DOES exist - at Smart Mark Video. It wouldn't have taken much, all they would have had to do was to let Mondo know that they were goingt o make the tape and the whole situation would have probably been avoided. It isn't just selling a match with Mondo in it, it is selling his likeness. This is expressed in cover art, pictures and the name of the tape. While RF can legally reproduce the matches, they are using Mondo's name to sell the tape, thus using his likeness. Without having seen (or having any intention to see) the tape, i think most are assuming that it is legal. Well, the video is only called Unscarred, so Nick Mondo isn't in the name of it. Unless it's something like Unscarred: the true life of Nick Monod, they're not usin ghis name. The only way they would be using his name is in the match listings, which is the same thing SMV and CZW do when they sell their video tapes with match listings that include Mondo's name. "I can see where you're coming from, here. But I think you missed the point. The primary difference is, I write a column for a website. I don't *have* to be professional. I make it a point of pride that I DON'T kiss anybody's ass or mince my words when I write my columns in order to get free tapes. I could care less what Ring of Honor thinks, or RF Video. The column is called "True 'Till Death" for a reason." Well, I can see you're point, no doubt about it it. However, you can still be professional and not "kiss anybody's ass" or "mince [your[ words when [you] write [your] columns in order to get free tapes." Mr. Tito does it. Scott Keith does...errr...bad example. I do it when I review tapes, that I know. Since according to you you don't have to be professional when writing your columns, I think that naturally takes away some of your credibility in this circumstance (not all, but in this particular one, and I'll explain why). Gabe has the pressure to be professional, since he owns a company. You don't, so I think it's kind of like "easier said than done." You don't have to be professional, dor does he. However, if you want your opinions to be respected, you SHOULD be professional, considering - as you admitted - you're writing for a popular, largely-viewed web site. Your opinions don't have to be expressed professionally, no doubt about it, but if you want them to be taken as seriously as you seem to have intended, they should be. I have no heat with you, Jay. I enjoy your reviews and especially enjoyed this IWA one. However, I also stand by my contention that your bitching about ROH, Gabe and the various wrestlers is very unprofessional. I guess where we differ isn't that you were unprofessional, but whether or not you must be professional. And it doesn't matter that you're not "in the business anymore." You brought that contention into the situation in the column, so naturally it can be used against you. In this circumstance, it's able to be. You said in the column that you were in the business, so naturally you should know not to defamate the abilities of various workers, no matter who they are, because as you admitted, they all put their bodies on the line each night, especially Special K (as does Mondo and the others you mentioned).

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...ST&f=19&t=41719 My review for the first XPW DVD I ever watched, a few months back...I went into the show with some interest for XPW, but no set opinion on the product...So if you want something unbiased, I think you'll find that as unbiased as it gets... At the same time, while you did watch it with an open mind, you need to realize how much XPW has changed since GFY, no matter how much the critics contend that it hasn't. Try your hand on some of the recent shows, like Redemption, HTO, LOD, NOC, etc. You'll enjoy them much more than GFY.

Now if that doesn't make you support Mondo, what does? This guy doesn't sound like the Mondo I've talked to several times, that's for sure. First off, his point about this incident being about "respect" is ridiculous. Respect is non existent in this world, whether people wish to believe it or not, and to think that it exists in pro wrestling, of all industries, is assanine. "But nobody can tell me he paid for the rights to MY CHARACTER, because CZW does not own my character, likeness, or name, which is what's being sold on that tape." Then according to Mondo CZW doesn't have the rights to profit off of Mondo's matches, either, yet they're paid for the tapes they sell that have his matches. A wrestler gives the rights to profit from his matches to his promoter, so Zandig has the right to sell his tapes. Does Feinstein? It depends. Since this is a documentary, I would think that it has backstage footage that was filmed of Mondo, away from the ring. I doubt RF or his company has the legal rights to that footage, so in that case, they'd be doing something wrong. If it is just of matches, though, which everyone seems to be saying it is, then they're doing nothing wrong. You didn't hear Messiah, Justice Pain, Zandig, etc. complain about the Best of Tapes RF made for them. Jay, I read your IWA-MS review and I enjoyed it, until you got to the diatribe on this situation. Your comments toward RF Video were absolutely unprofessional, yet you said, "What professionalism and maturity from one of the heads of a major video company, bravo." You did the same thing as what was done by Gabe. If you hadn't said that and the other disses you made toward RF, your points could be taken as they are, but by doing this, you've made yourself resort to the same level as you say RF Video is resorting to. "has been in some of the most memorable matches of the past few years and skill-wise, blows worthless loads like Slugger, J-Train, Prince Nana and most of your precious Special K spotmonkeys out of the water." You say you've been involved in the wrestling industry, yet you have the *nerve* to defamate the abilities of these wrestlers, who - just like Mondo - put their bodies on the line. How is what Special K does "worthless?" You could make the point that at least they wrestle primarily, instead of resorting to weedwhackers and stuff. The points you made in your article were completely contradictory to themselves, man. I'm not going to argue about who's a good wrestler or not. I don't need to start some dumb debate about why/if Abby, Louie, Funk, etc. are better than Mondo. The bottom line is that they all have something in common - they're job is being a pro wrestler. And what you've made the "spotmonkeys," "worthless loads," etc. out to be completely debase your assertions. CZW has continued to use the BJPW death match title belt without BJPW's consent and without paying them for it's use. Companies are always going to engage in questionable activities. It's a fact of American society, which is built upon technicalites. Very few things are perfect, and that includes both CZW and RF Video, along with the other wresting promotions throughout the world.

Mike Modest told me that RF also did this with the debut show of Pro Wrestling Iron.

Holy crap. That card is incredible. You're really lucky to be there.

I really like the idea of Briscoe vs. Joe, the big vs. small type formula. It should be interesting to see how ROH plays the idea out, as compared to Brock vs. Spanky/Gowen, Kane vs. X-Pac, and other similar rivalries.

How about doing us all a favor and not bitching about things you have no knowledge about? Grimes wasn't "blackballed" from the WWF. The reason he was released was because of roster cuts that were made. If you did any research, you'd find that the very same day he was released, Blue Meanie and Steve Bradley were also released. "He then topped this by getting himself nearly killed in ECW" So, you're telling me that as someone with five years of experience and being trained by some of the best trainers in the world, he doesn't have the right to take risky bumps? Would you say the same about Nick Mondo? Chris Hero hasn't worked for TNA. Nor has American Dragon. You're an idiot. "The only reason his matches are any "good" (in the XPW sense of the word) are because his opponents are carrying him. And when Shane Douglas is carrying you to matches, youve got problems" Considering you obviously haven't seen any of his XPW matches, I wouldn't be talking. And even if you've seen any, you've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt in this reply that those that you have seen you entered with an immensely negative mindset that would prevent AmDrag/London from being considered "good." And consider that he's the one maintaining the pace of the match most often because he's the heel when he's in XPW (besides his matches there in the last year). Too bad you didn't think before bitching. Don't try again. Jesus Johnny Calm Down. When Grimes was brought into the WWF, as Key (as in Kilo, of Drugs, God Bless ya Russo, my hero) he was dressed all in white. However, he couldnt find any white wrestling boots (highspots is thataway ->), and BADLY blew his big shot. As a result, he was sent to ECW as part of that hokey talent exchange and got involved in DA Baldies, taking over from Vito when he went WCW. When Vic and New Jack threw themselves off whatever that thing was, WWF severed ties with him. Which is disapointing, because as a garbage wrestler he's pretty decent, and was considered for a huge push, working with Foley of all people. Russo considered him to bring in on two occasions, but the higher ups considered him a liability. Personally though, as a wrestler i think he's overrated, and not even a big man either. While he's no Paul London, he certainly aint Iceberg. If Iceberg is comparable to anyone in XPW, its Supreme, or Pogo Chris Hero has worked for TNA, he worked XPlosion a while Back. The only reason Danielsen hasnt been considered is because allof his matches are mat orientated and need at least ten minutes psychology before he does anything. And I've seen loads of XPW, mainly the really early stuff, or the Shane Douglas stuff (blame that on my blind markdom for him) Actually, the scaffold incident happened in March and he was released in July. So, clearly WWE didn't release him just b/c of the scaffold incident. If they did, they would've released him not one not two not three but *Four* months earlier than they did. After the scaffold thing, he was kept by WWF for four whole months. "Which is disapointing, because as a garbage wrestler he's pretty decent, and was considered for a huge push, working with Foley of all people." There were NEVER any plans for him to work with Foley. He was going to work with Godfather, until he got injured. There's no way that they would book him from feuding with a midcarder like Godfather to a main eventer like Foley. The reason he was sent to ECW was not because of the boots incident. WWE could've easily supplied him with boots and even though they didn't, they never would've fired him for that. As he's cited many times, the reasons that he was sent to ECW were a. Vince Russo's leaving WWF left creative w/ out interest in him and b. Godfather got injured and that was who he was cheduled to feud with. Forget Hero, if you'd like. B-Boy, Derek Wylde, Homicide, Danny Maff, Xavier, etc. were all never used by NWA-TNA, despite being fantastic workers. Not working for TNA doesn't mean a thing. Besides, Grimes rarely works on the East Coast. TNA has to fly out Kazarian each week already, so why add to that list and continually use Grimes. They're not exactly as financially prosperous as WWE. "And I've seen loads of XPW, mainly the really early stuff, or the Shane Douglas stuff (blame that on my blind markdom for him)" There are very few really early matches in XPW that were great. Which ones pre-2001 have you seen? And which ones have you seen before the Philly run but after January 2001? Unless you've bought XPW TV shows, you haven't seen most of Grimes' best work. The home videos that have been released have primarily showcased his less impressive bouts. If you'd like, I could personally ask Grimes about whether he was scheduled to work with Foley. I just got in contact w/ him a month ago through JR Benson and I think he'd be more than happy to shoot down that rumor.

How about doing us all a favor and not bitching about things you have no knowledge about? Grimes wasn't "blackballed" from the WWF. The reason he was released was because of roster cuts that were made. If you did any research, you'd find that the very same day he was released, Blue Meanie and Steve Bradley were also released. "He then topped this by getting himself nearly killed in ECW" So, you're telling me that as someone with five years of experience and being trained by some of the best trainers in the world, he doesn't have the right to take risky bumps? Would you say the same about Nick Mondo? Chris Hero hasn't worked for TNA. Nor has American Dragon. You're an idiot. "The only reason his matches are any "good" (in the XPW sense of the word) are because his opponents are carrying him. And when Shane Douglas is carrying you to matches, youve got problems" Considering you obviously haven't seen any of his XPW matches, I wouldn't be talking. And even if you've seen any, you've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt in this reply that those that you have seen you entered with an immensely negative mindset that would prevent AmDrag/London from being considered "good." And consider that he's the one maintaining the pace of the match most often because he's the heel when he's in XPW (besides his matches there in the last year). Too bad you didn't think before bitching. Don't try again.

I just learned that Luke had a pre-RAW WWE dark match earlier this month - teamed w/ Mortis/Kanyon. So you can add that to his accomplishments, too.