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I think you're giving Muraco a short shrift here. He was perhaps wrestling's #1 heel in the early '80s.

Indeed. This is a promising series. I just hope the original poster lays off the caps-lock key.

Mario Soto was the last one. Jose Rijo was outstanding for a few years, but he came in via trade.

AY MANG FUCK JOO MANG WE PLAY BEISBOL THE RYE WAY BY BUNTING AND TROWING BASEBALLS AT JOO AN CALLING WRITERS FUCKING FAGGOTS But in all seriousness, the White Sox have never won anything because of bunting. It's been pitching and home runs. They lost the pitching last year, they lost games. Just for the heck of it... 1906: Won with pitching. Hitless wonders also led league in walks however, so they weren't offensive zeroes. 1917: Won with offense. Led league in runs and OBP, but also in stolen bases. Probably played tremendous smallball in an era where that meant something. 1919: Won with offense, led league in runs, batting average and stolen bases. 1959: Won with pitching and defense. 1983: Won with offense, although I'm flabbergasted as to how they did it. Led league in runs, but finished ninth in batting average, eighth in OBP, sixth in slugging, third in stolen bases. The only other offensive category they led was strikeouts. 1993: Won with pitching. 2000: Won with offense. Mostly power.

The issue isn't whether Awesome should or shouldn't have jumped. It's that he took the title with him. A month or so ago we had a discussion about least professional workers. Within the wrestling industry, one of the least professional things you can do is jump a promotion with their title belt. Like someone said, Awesome probably should have come out for one last match to drop the belt, or even just surrender it on television.

Why not? 11.79 strikeouts per nine innings over his career, three home runs allowed in 145 professional innings, and he was one of the youngest pitchers in his league.

1986 Houston Astros vs. 1998 Florida Marlins The Houston Astros won 96 games and the National League West, but lost to the New York Mets in an exciting NLCS. The Florida Marlins sold off nearly their entire team and lost 108 games. Hall of Famers Astros: Nolan Ryan Marlins: The rules of the tournament stipulate that a team can not use players they traded or released midseason. After the trading deadline, they produced a gaudy 15-37 record. The Marlins featured below average offense and horrific pitching. The Astros had a good offense and very good pitching. '98 Marlins 3, '86 Astros 1 WP: Livan Hernandez (1-0) LP: Nolan Ryan (0-1) Kevin Orie hit a three run home run in the fourth inning to give the Marlins a stunning victory. Ryan struck out eleven in the loss. '86 Astros 3, '98 Marlins 0 WP: Mike Scott (1-0) LP: Brian Meadows (0-1) Mike Scott pitched a two-hit shutout, striking out nine. '98 Marlins 3, '86 Astros 2 WP: Jesus Sanchez (1-0) LP: Bob Knepper (0-1) Sv: Matt Mantei (1) Pitching again dominates as the Marlin pitchers keep the Astro hitters at bay. The Marlins hold a 2-1 series lead, far more than anyone certainly expected. '98 Marlins 2, '86 Astros 1 WP: Antonio Alfonseca (1-0) LP: Jim Deshaies (0-1) Sv: Matt Mantei (2) Dave Berg's RBI single in the seventh drove in the winning run. The Astros have collected a .573 OPS as a team to this point, and are a loss away from one of baseball's most stunning upsets. '86 Astros 6, '98 Marlins 4 WP: Nolan Ryan (1-1) LP: Livan Hernandez (1-1) Sv: Dave Smith (1) The Astros exploded for four runs in the second inning. Billy Hatcher hit three doubles and cut down Craig Counsell attempting to score on a sacrifice fly in the ninth inning to end the game. The Marlins lead the series 3-2, but the series moves back to the Astrodome for games six and seven (if necessary). '86 Astros 9, '98 Marlins 2 WP: Mike Scott (2-0) LP: Brian Meadows (0-2) Another team offensive effort from the Astros. Brian Meadows surrendered fifteen hits in less than five innings. Mike Scott struck out eleven batters. '86 Astros 4, '98 Marlins 2 WP: Bob Knepper (1-1) LP: Jesus Sanchez (1-1) Sanchez lasted just two innings. The Marlins' bullpen kept the team in the game, allowing just one more run in six innings. Derrek Lee hit a two run home run in the ninth to plate the Marlins' only runs. 1986 Astros win series 4-3 The Marlins put up a gallant fight but the Astros survived. The 'Stros go on to battle the 1946 Red Sox in the second round. Up Next: '82 Brewers vs. '04 Astros

This week we get old school Madison Square Garden from 1973?! Holy crap, I want to call off of work. We've also got new Monday Night Wars, TNT with Roddy Piper, new ECW and new NWA. The ECW show features the dog collar match between the Pitbulls and Raven/Richards.

You're somewhat spoiled by the fact that terrestrial radio gives you options. Around here we get stuff from Stroudsburg, Wilkes-Barre and Scranton, and even that is hit or miss. If I want to listen to any kind of talk radio at all, I have to get satellite. Of course, the baseball makes that all a moot point.

Both games.

BWAHAHAHAHA. I want to give it to Czech.

The MVP series plays a lot better than any other baseball game I've played. Even NCAA was terrific in the gameplay department. I wouldn't mind seeing them get the MLB license back.

1950 Philadelphia Phillies vs. 2003 Florida Marlins The Phillies won their first NL pennant in thirty-five years on the last day of the season, but were swept by the New York Yankees in the World Series. The Florida Marlins shocked baseball by winning the wild card and then beating the New York Yankees in the World Series. Hall of Famers Phillies: Richie Ashburn, Robin Roberts Marlins: [ivan Rodriguez] The Marlins surprisingly enjoyed more contributions from their offense than their defense. The Marlins' starting pitching is good but their bullpen relies on Ugueth Urbina. The Phillies had average offense but great pitching, led by the durable Robin Roberts and the young flamethrowing Curt Simmons. '50 Phillies 3, '03 Marlins 2 (11 Innings) WP: Jim Konstanty (1-0) LP: Carl Pavano (0-1) Del Ennis' sacrifice fly in the eleventh won the game. Robin Roberts pitched nine innings and surrendered two runs. '03 Marlins 9, '50 Phillies 3 WP: Dontrelle Willis (1-0) LP: Curt Simmons (0-1) Curt Simmons gave up seven runs in five and two-thirds. '50 Phillies 4, '03 Marlins 2 WP: Bob Miller (1-0) LP: Brad Penny (0-1) Sv: Jim Konstanty (1) Eddie Waitkus and Richie Ashburn combined to go 5-8 with a double, two triples and four runs scored out of the 1-2 spots in the lineup. '50 Phillies 10, '03 Marlins 2 WP: Robin Roberts (1-0) LP: Mark Redman (0-1) I could give you the gritty details of how this went down. It just stands to reason that a group of mere kids can not stand a chance against the WHIZ kids. '03 Marlins 7, '50 Phillies 2 WP: Josh Beckett (1-0) LP: Bubba Church (0-1) Miguel Cabrera hit a two run home run in the fifth to give the Marlins the lead and they cruised to victory. '50 Phillies 6, '03 Marlins 4 WP: Curt Simmons (1-1) LP: Dontrelle Willis (1-1) Sv: Jim Konstanty (2) Curt Simmons collected two RBIs to help his own cause. 1950 Phillies win series 4-2 In a short series the Phillies can limit the soft underbelly of their pitching staff and that is the case here, as Robin Roberts and company shut down the Marlins. The Phillies advance to face the 1998 Yankees in round two. Up Next: '86 Astros vs. '98 Marlins

Sports forum stuff so it's fitting that I reply. I'm not tremendously fond of pinning a bunch of stuff. It it were up to me, we probably wouldn't have any pinned threads in the Sports forum. Of course if it were really up to me, it would be the Baseball forum. I felt that those wishing to have a general discussion of baseball would get tired of skipping over lists of the same thirty teams with over or under besides them. It can get tedious. I felt it would generate its own discussion.

I found out the other day that Gene Snitsky used to work at a resort where my friend worked as well.

Absolutely I'd take deferred payments. Wouldn't a lump sum kill you on the taxes anyway? As for that snowstorm, I live right in the middle of the area and it was indeed a huge mess. I don't see how much more the government could've done though. If the weather is really bad, don't drive. The same thing happened ten years ago. Traffic stops and when the snow's coming down fast enough there's no way to plow around stopped cars. The only thing they should have done differently is declared a state of emergency on Thursday. Clear all non-essential traffic and allow the plow trucks to do their work. Part of the problem is that at the same time they're dealing with traffic, we've got people determined to come in for the holiday weekend. Personally, I wasn't inconvenienced for the most part except for the usual snowstorm hassles. And that indeed is just mother nature.

2006 Minnesota Twins vs. 1989 Baltimore Orioles The Minnesota Twins won the Central by being in first place only one day the entire season, the last day. They suffered a first round sweep to the Oakland Athletics. The Baltimore Orioles went from losing 107 games in 1988 to finishing within two games of the division champion Toronto Blue Jays. Hall of Famers Orioles: Cal Ripken Twins: none I am willing to bet at least one Twin enjoys a Hall of Fame career. The Twins had average offense and great pitching. The Orioles had average offense and below average pitching, but their three top relievers (Gregg Olson, Mark Williamson and Kevin Hickey) were outstanding. '06 Twins 8, '89 Orioles 5 WP: Johan Santana (1-0) LP: Jeff Ballard (0-1) Sv: Juan Rincon (1) This game was not as close as the score indicates. Scott Baker surrendered five runs in the ninth before Juan Rincon shut the door. Michael Cuddyer collected 4 RBIs. '89 Orioles 2, '06 Twins 0 WP: Bob Milacki (1-0) LP: Brad Radke (0-1) Sv: Gregg Olson (1) Joe Orsulak's two run home run in the second provided the only runs of the game. '89 Orioles 3, '06 Twins 2 (11 Innings) WP: Mark Williamson (1-0) LP: Juan Rincon (0-1) Francisco Liriano dominated for eight innings. A bloop and a blast in the ninth tied the game however, and Mickey Tettleton's RBI single won the game in the eleventh. '06 Twins 7, '89 Orioles 4 WP: Boof Bonser (1-0) LP: Dave Schmidt (0-1) Michael Cuddyer again collected four RBIs, topped off by a three run homer in the fourth inning. '06 Twins 5, '89 Orioles 3 WP: Juan Rincon (1-1) LP: Gregg Olson (0-1) Sv: Joe Nathan (1) Gregg Olson fell apart in the ninth, walking three and allowing two runs. '06 Twins 4, '89 Orioles 3 WP: Joe Nathan (1-0) LP: Mark Williamson (0-1) Joe Mauer drove in the walkoff run with a double in the ninth inning to win the series. For what it's worth, Cal Ripken drove in no runs in six games. Twins win series 4-2 A gallant effort from the O's who kept the series competitive. The Twins advance to play the 1912 New York Giants in the second round. Up Next: 1950 Phillies vs. 2003 Marlins

Closing this thread. There's one in general wrestling.

Stottlemyre started game four and was shelled, giving up 5 runs in 2 2/3 IP. That meant the Blue Jays needed 16 innings out of their pen. Now since Stottlemyre started and Morris is available again in game five, that makes David Cone available out of the bullpen. In retrospect, I probably could have used him earlier. Cone was entirely ineffective however, blowing a lead in the 17th and losing it in the 19th. He walked six batters in 3 2/3 IP. Why Stottlemyre over Cone? I can't say for certain, probably because Stottlemyre started more games for the Blue Jays and I have a tendency to take guys based on games started. It is easy to overlook pitchers with minimal playing time unless you take a closer look at a team's roster. Rest assured, Cone will be in the rotation for the series against the Athletics.

Yeah, that 19 inning game was a situation where both teams literally had no pitchers available. The Blue Jays didn't suffer too badly because they had Morris-Key-Guzman-Stottlemyre. But the Mets burned game five starter George Stone. So it was a choice of either Jerry Koosman on short rest, or Tug McGraw. If McGraw started that would have left one pitcher available in the bullpen. The game won't let me use a reliever who needs rest. I'm checking a detail on game four.

I hope they show more AWA/NWA non-PPV supercards.

This is just beyond awful. The hosts are not funny, the targets are lame, and the laugh track is the worst thing I've ever heard.

Devo had the '73 Mets. The '88 club won 100 games, but since the 1986 Mets were already in I wouldn't have taken them. The '69 or even the '99 clubs might have fared better.

I would just add how brilliant WWE booked this to not only allow Savage to return despite the stipulation, but had the fans begging them to do it.

It only matters if they enforce it. They never enforced the old 20 second rule.