Slickster

What the crowd wants < serious injury

Hey, nobody seemed to care when Andre was jobbing in 1min to the Warrior around the horn back in '89...and that's when house shows meant something! Look, you're going to have to get used to seeing SD! Lite at house shows; that's Vince's strategy and it's going to take a while to change that. All I'm saying is this: why bother busting your ass (and possibly ending your own career) in front of 2500 in Biloxi when you can go out in a blaze of glory on TV or PPV?

I agree 100%; the house shows don't matter, so why bother aggravating an injury when you don't have to?

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I'm not sure you can prove whether he did or didn't.

My theory: it's as risky and risque as one can get while also knowing that you'll probably never ever MEET them. I mean, if a girl flashes some guy in person, she can't just run away and never see him again; he'll probably want/expect more. On the internet, though, she could just change email accounts/SNs/chat rooms and poof!...she's vanished. Basically, it's both very personal and very anonymous, and it lets girls show off what they got without the recipient of the flash expecting some sweet, sweet lovin' in return. Makes more sense than any theory I could have possibly come up with. -=Mike TheMikeSC liked my theory! *walks confidently in slow motion*

Right, but their JOB is to make fun of things. The leader of our country (and the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces) should not be making those kinds of comments, satirical convention or not. He could have talked about ANYTHING else, but instead he chose to make this controversial decision. Let's try it this way: let's say that you're a fan of a sports team...let's say the Cincinnati Bengals. Early in the year, the coach hypes up the fans and says that this season will be a great one, that we'll accomplish all our goals, etc. You're excited about the season's prospects. The season starts, and the team has a mediocre first few months. Meanwhile, the coach keeps stressing that the team WILL get the job done and that they WILL make the playoffs. You have faith in the coach and think that he can turn the team around, but you're a little less sure of it then you were before. It gets down to Week 13, and the team is 3-8. Going into the game, the coach addresses a press conference, saying :"we'll get the job done, and we'll...aw, who am I kidding? We haven't done anything this year!" The room erupts with laughter. How do you think his players would feel? How would you feel? 'Cause that's the way it appears many people on these forums felt after those comments were made.

My theory: it's as risky and risque as one can get while also knowing that you'll probably never ever MEET them. I mean, if a girl flashes some guy in person, she can't just run away and never see him again; he'll probably want/expect more. On the internet, though, she could just change email accounts/SNs/chat rooms and poof!...she's vanished. Basically, it's both very personal and very anonymous, and it lets girls show off what they got without the recipient of the flash expecting some sweet, sweet lovin' in return.

What about Charlie Brown (from out of town)? Jimmy Valiant did Mr. America about 20 years before WWE did.

That's mentioned in the film 'Liar Liar' but I dunno if it's true or not. And in most cases, the fine print on the back of the ticket waives the arena/performers of responsibility; generally, you're on your own once you step inside. If you jump the rail or provoke the wrestlers in any other way, you have NO leg to stand on; they can beat the shit out of you if they want to. After all, you were the one who instigated it, not them. The aforementioned RVD case is presumably different because, well, RVD hit him first, not the other way around. Or it could be because ECW didn't always cover all their bases and may have forgotten to address the liability issue on tickets/programs/etc. EDIT: And wrestlers diving into the crowd and being close enough to potentially hit someone isn't usually expected at a wrestling event, so that was probably part of it too.

That one was a Coliseum Video Exclusive from...I want to say Invasion '92, but I might be wrong.

Also, SD! is syndicated and shown on the weekends in some markets...

He's gotta have a midcard feud with _somebody_ before you re-elevate him to the main event level; it only worked with the Big Show because he's really, really large.

Well, his gimmick actually looks good to me. If he can keep his smarmy heel schtick going it'll get over even more and JD's ME might be better than we expect right now.

holy crap, I did NOT know that was hidden in that archived site. Thanks so much!

To compare, here's the WCW Title history broken down by year (until Vengeance '01). 1991 Ric Flair January 11, 1991 East Rutherford, New Jersey Lex Luger July 14, 1991 Baltimore, Maryland 1992 Sting February 29, 1992 Milwaukee, Winsconsin Big Van Vader July 12, 1992 Albany, Georgia Ron Simmons August 2, 1992 Baltimore, Maryland Big Van Vader (2) December 20, 1992 Baltimore, Maryland 1993 Sting (2) March 11, 1993 London, England Big Van Vader (3) March 17, 1993 Dublin, Ireland Ric Flair (2) December 27, 1993 Charlotte, North Carolina 1994 Ric Flair (3) April 24, 1994 Atlanta, Georgia Hulk Hogan July 17, 1994 Orlando, Florida 1995 The Giant October 29, 1995 Detroit, Michigan Randy Savage November 26, 1995 Norfolk, Virginia Ric Flair (4) December 27, 1995 Nashville, Tennessee 1996 Randy Savage (2) January 22, 1996 Las Vegas, Nevada Ric Flair (5) February 11, 1996 Saint Petersburg, Florida The Giant (2) April 22, 1996 Albany, Georgia Hulk Hogan (2) August 10, 1996 Sturgis, South Dakota 1997 Lex Luger (2) August 4, 1997 Auburn Hills, Michigan Hulk Hogan (3) August 9, 1997 Sturgis, South Dakota Sting (3) December 28, 1997 Washington, D.C. 1998 Sting (4) February 22, 1998 San Francisco, California Randy Savage (3) April 19, 1998 Denver, Colorado Hulk Hogan (4) April 20, 1998 Colorado Springs, Colorado Bill Goldberg July 6, 1998 Atlanta, Georgia Kevin Nash December 27, 1998 Washington, D.C. 1999 Hulk Hogan (5) January 4, 1999 Atlanta, Georgia Ric Flair (6) March 14, 1999 Louisville, Kentucky Diamond Dallas Page April 11, 1999 Tacoma, Washington Sting (5) April 26, 1999 Fargo, North Dakota Diamond Dallas Page (2) April 26, 1999 Fargo, North Dakota Kevin Nash (2) May 9, 1999 Saint Louis, Missouri Randy Savage (4) July 11, 1999 Fort Lauderdale, Florida Hulk Hogan (6) July 12, 1999 Jacksonville, Florida Sting (7) September 12, 1999 Winston-Salem, North Carolina Bret Hart November 21, 1999 Toronto, Ontario, Canada Bret Hart (2) December 19, 1999 Baltimore, Maryland 2000 Chris Benoit January 16, 2000 Cincinatti, Ohio Sid Vicious January 24, 2000 Los Angeles, California Kevin Nash (3) January 25, 2000 Las Vegas, Nevada Sid Vicious (2) January 25, 2000 Las Vegas, Nevada Jeff Jarrett April 16, 2000 Chicago, Illinois Diamond Dallas Page (3) April 24, 2000 Rochester, New York David Arquette April 25, 2000 Syracuse, New York Jeff Jarrett (2) May 7, 2000 Kansas City, Missouri Ric Flair (7) May 15, 2000 Biloxi, Mississippi Jeff Jarrett (3) May 22, 2000 Grand Rapids, Michigan Kevin Nash (4) May 23, 2000 Saginaw, Michigan Ric Flair (8) May 29, 2000 Salt Lake City, Utah Jeff Jarrett (4) May 29, 2000 Salt Lake City, Utah Booker T. July 9, 2000 Daytona Beach, Florida Kevin Nash (5) August 28, 2000 Las Cruces, New Mexico Booker T. (2) September 17, 2000 Buffalo, New York Vince Russo September 25, 2000 Uniondale, New York Booker T. (3) October 2, 2000 San Francisco, California Scott Steiner November 26, 2000 Milwaukee, Wisconsin 2001 Booker T. (4) March 26, 2001 Panama City, Florida Kurt Angle July 24, 2001 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Booker T. (5) July 30, 2001 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania The Rock August 19, 2001 San Jose, California Chris Jericho October 21, 2001 Saint Louis, Missouri The Rock (2) November 5, 2001 Uniondale, New York Chris Jericho (2) December 9, 2001 San Diego, California

Actually, it was just called the "World Championship" when Rock/Jericho held it and that's generally considered to be a different phase in the title's history than the 'HHH and after' era.

The WWE's stance on this has flip-flopped; they have sometimes said it's a new title, but they also did a Confidential feature in 9/02 about 'great World Heavyweight Champions' and profiled Sting, DDP, Flair, and Hogan. At the wrestling-titles.com forums, this has been a 20-month debate, but title history god Dan Poutsma has described it like this: 1) Bischoff never said he was "stripping" Lesnar of any particular championship [on the 9/2/02 RAW]. He just said that RAW was "disputing" the Undisputed title after Brock became exclusive to SmackDown! and that they were gonna recognize their own world champ in Triple H, who had earned the number one contender spot to the Undisputed title prior. 2) It was said later on that Triple H was awarded a "resurrected" title, which insinuates that there was a period where it laid dormant and was inactive. 3) Bischoff went out of his way to mention when he was awarding Big Goldy to Triple H that he was also the last person to wear/hold it. Based on these three premises, that leads me to conclude that as far as they're concerned, the World title was retired when Big Goldy was retired shortly after Wrestlemania 18, meaning that the Undisputed title only contained both titles during the reigns of Jericho and Triple H until they got rid of Big Goldy and the old WWF championship belt in favor of a new one.

Where did you hear that?

No, it was several months before that (I want to say 12/99).

So probably Booker T - RVD at JDay?

Mean Street Posse attacking him at the circus was a good one too.

re: the belt: Yeah, I'm assuming it was deliberate. Good to see him actually wear it in the beltular region, though, unlike most other champions.

Good. A slow burn to the ECW angle is better than 'well, I got fired, so I'll rehire all my old workers for no apparent reason."

By doing that, wouldn't they be the first people to win both sets of tag titles?