Slickster

Could someone make a GIF of Carlito's entrance? That still image of him floating toward me is creepy and awesome all at once.

September 18, 2005 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Unforgiven October 9, 2005 Houston, Texas No Mercy November 1, 2005 San Diego, California Taboo Tuesday November 27, 2005 Detroit, Michigan Survivor Series December 18, 2005 Providence, Rhode Island Armageddon January 8, 2006 ???? New Year's Revolution January 29, 2006 Miami, Florida Royal Rumble February 19, 2006 Baltimore, Maryland No Way Out April 2, 2006 Chicago, Illinois WrestleMania XXII

With that said, it's Gordy List time. 1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his country or his promotion? No; in WWE from late 2002-early 2003, I believe. 2. Was he an international draw, national draw and/or regional draw? Yes, he was. 3. How many years did he have as a top draw? From roughly late 1999-early 2001 and 2002-present, so roughly 6 years. 4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in his country or in his promotion? Never; he was considered one of WWE's best in 2000 (probably peaking with his Benoit match in late 2000). 5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his class? No; I would say yes from 2000-early 01. 6. How many years did he have as a top worker? 7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a good worker after his prime? From 1995-1998, he was an OK midcard wrestler. I'm not quite sure when his 'prime' ended, so I'll skip this, 8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches? Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents? He has had good, memorable matches with a variety of opponents, including Austin, Taker, Rock, Kane, Jericho, Benoit, Guererro, and Taka Michinoku, to name a few. 9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)? He has been permanently anchored to the main event scene since late 1999. 10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of cards? Yes and no. His drawing power is best when supplemented by other top draws; on his own he wasn't/has not been all that impressive without a strong supporting cast. 11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after his prime? Well, since he will probably be running the place in the future, I'd say so. 12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong promotional runs? He was involved in almost all major storylines from late 1999 to the present. 13. Was he involved in a number of memorable rivalries, feuds or storylines? Too many to list, really. 14. Was he effective working on the mic, working storylines or working angles? Yes, HHH does work hard to put angles over (though his mic work is repetitive). 15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his career? Yes, whatever the gimmick HHH played it to the fullest. 16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was the importance of the reigns? Rumle winner, King of the Ring, 11-time world champion; however, I don't think that many of these honors are held in high regard or make people respect him more. 17. Did he win many honors and awards? Too many to list. 18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the wrestling media? Not really (unless 'Blade:Trinity' counts); most of the IWC is abuzz about his every move. 19. Was he a top tag team wrestler? Never. 20. Was he innovative? I don't believe so. The sledgehammer and the Pedigree are his main contributions to the sport, wrestling-wise. 21. Was he influential? *snickers* Yes, and we see his influence on every minute of WWE programming. 22. Did he make the people and workers around him better? I don't believe so, no. 23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did he show a commitment to wrestling? No, since he quashed many pushes (see Booker T, RVD); Yes, above all else. 24. Is there any reason to believe that he was better or worse than he appeared? Well, his backstage power quashed many a push and directly shaped his own career, so a lot of this accomplishments were artificially generated.

I agree with every thing RRR has said. HHH has accomplished so much in his career not because of determination or working his way to the top of the card, but because it's been pretty much handed to him. However, based on the criteria of the Hall of Fame, he is indeed a worthy candidate and should be inducted. (Also, Foley and Taker are first-ballot, no doubt about it.)

I disagree, Hercules, Barbarian, and the Warlord were very similar. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I disagree with your disagreement. Hercules = had a chain, pasty white guy, 'heroic' entrance music, used the full nelson, a pretty balanced power/brawler guy Barbarian = no music, managed by Heenan, darker skin, looked like he got dressed in a taxidermist's shop, more of a brawler Warlord = tanned, bald, wore the 'Phantom' mask and shoulderpads, managed by Slick, more of a power wrestler Compare them to Masters, Snitsky, Heidenreich, Matt Morgan, Bill Demott, and a lot of the other generic guys who have come into the WWE in recent years with similar movesets, similar basic ring gear, similar entrance music, similar one-note 'angry, intense' personas, and almost identical finishers (most using a powerbomb variation). I'd say Masters and (now) Heidenreich are the exceptions to that, since at least they have their own distinctive gimmicks now.

Yeah, that's the one where he damns HHH's soul to hell, too. He's screaming and pointing at HHH who is standing on the table doing his trademark pose and totally no-selling JR's existence. Definitely one of my favorite JR moments right there.

This is probably just wishful thinking and merely Sunny's opinion (i.e. "By October, I think I'll be able to return to WWE.").

So is Ken Anderson Ken Kennedy now?

Sept 14, 1999, Las Vegas, SmackDown!. HHH goaded Vince into a title match so he could beat him down (which he did, for several minutes). Then, HHH bumps the ref, Austin runs in (he and HHH were feuding), Stone Cold Stunner on HHH, Austin puts Vince on top of HHH and revives the ref, 1-2-3, Vince McMahon is the WWE Champion. That Monday (9/20/99), Vince vacated the title so the winner of the '6-Pack Challenge' scheduled for that Sunday's Unforgiven PPV would be the new WWE Champion. At Unforgiven, guest referee Steve Austin was forced to count HHH's winning pinfall on The Big Show, but attacked The Game as he celebrated after the match. This set up Austin-HHH for the title at No Mercy the next month.

I think that's about the size of it. I'm expecting a Bruno Sammartino set for next year just so Vince can bury him before he kicks the bucket.

It was pretty much a one night thing since they were in Funk's hometown of Amarillo. He dropped the strap back to Storm the next night in Lubbock. The title change was not mentioned on WCW television.

Booker T suffered a back injury, so they had to 'go home' fast.

Great, now I'm picturing this guy:

Well, I'm guessing that Rey felt that being able to show off some semblance of character depth would be good for both himself and Eddie. While I wouldn't have had Rey beat Eddie in both of their prior matchups, I'd rather have Rey and Eddie get a chance to do a 'serious' storyline than to be saddled with midcard-level angles. I mean, you can only have Rey and Eddie do 'respect' feuds and 'one partner double-crosses the other' angles for so long before it gets a little repetitive.

To be fair, Facebook is set up so that no one outside of your college can look at your page without consenting (by adding you to their friend list). This prevents a lot of the 'stalker' stuff, since aside from the people at your college, no one can access your page without your knowledge. People who attend your school can already look up your phone # and on-campus address anyway, so that's no big deal.

But by being a successful champion with many title defenses, won't you have already beaten most credible challengers, making it harder to build them up? (See HHH, 2003. He almost had to lose to Goldberg because Goldberg was the only credible challenger left that HHH hadn't beaten. JBL suffered from this problem as well, albeit to a lesses extent than HHH.) It worked for Hogan because he had ~5 televised title defenses annually, so you could do a whole year with him facing 2-3 challengers in various rematches. Backlund went around the horn with challengers (often going 2-3 months with each due to countout finishes and other BS endings), plus he would have shorter feuds with out-of-town talent brought up from other territories. In the modern era, though, you can't have a long title reign and defend the belt frequently without damaging the credibility of every other person on the roster.

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Good idea for a thread. This is a cop-out answer, but I'd say that both can be just as effective. Austin was always seen as *the* man on top from 1998-1999 and 2001 because he had so many short title reigns that fans perceived him as being able to win back the title at any time. (This perception was supported by the fact that on two separate occasions, Austin lost a PPV match and won the WWE Title the next night on RAW.) Steve Austin and Ric Flair are among the few guys who could show up on RAW this week, ask for a title shot, and immediately be regarded by the fans as a legitimate contender. On the other hand, Triple H made himself synonymous with the World Heavyweight Championship for a full year during 2002 and 2003 (except for Nov-Dec 02). He made himself seem unbeatable. By the same token, Hulk Hogan's title run from 1985 until 1988 cemented his reputation as THE MAN in this business. Without that 3-year title run, Hulk Hogan's career after 1990 would have been much, much less successful (WCW dominance, the nWo, the return to WWE, etc.). However, if he had retired from the business after WM4, his legacy would still be held in very high regard due to that one impressive title run. The same also holds true for Bob Backlund. Without that ridiculously long run as WWE Champion, would he be much more than a footnote? I doubt it.

This should happen at some point on RAW: *crowd chants 'USA'* JR: Well, it sounds like the fans here know what channel RAW will be on starting in October.

From what I've read up on regarding public domain, the lists are usually hard to acquire for Joe Schmo, which makes it hard to even identify the royalty-free music in the first place. Not to mention that we always assumed several entrance themes were public domain, but it may just fall under the "Fair Use" exception. For example, the Harlem Heat theme was always considered public domain, but WWE substituted it for a few home video releases in 2003, which means it is copyrighted by someone somewhere. Was it free to to WCW, while the WWE pays a fee to use it? It's hard to know. My best bet is to purchase a PC Audio Compostion or PC Artists magazine which comes with a DVD-rom full of royalty-free music (500+ songs or so). I see those all over the newsstands, but they're utterly useless to anyone NOT in this situation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1. Booker T's music is called "Rap Sheet" and is copyrighted (read the SD: Shut Your Mouth manual and look at the music copyrights in the back). The Hardyz theme, Crash's theme, Booker T's theme, and many other themes are not public domain, they are 'production music': generic music written, composed, and recorded for use in entertainment programming. One has to pay royalties on these songs if they are used in a commercial venture. Many companies exist for the sole purpose of writing production music and making money off of royalties. I was under the impression that since there's no paid-for advertising on this podcast (nor is anyone paying to listen), any music could be used without having to pay royalties. 2. To skirt around the issue of calling people by their usernames, I'd just refer to them as "the poster known as Hunter's Torn Quad", unless you know that person's real first name. You need to refer to usernames or the show becomes one big inside joke where listeners who don't know the real names of posters will have no idea who is being referred to.

Because Christians will always portray themselves as an oppressed minority under the thumb of godless society and its heretical traditions. Since the 1400s, Christianity and science have been at odds. I don't see that battle ever coming to a conclusion.

The fact that evolution cannot be proven does not lend credibility to creationism/intelligent design, which also cannot be proven. And to those who say "evolution is just a theory," I remind you that gravity and heliocentrism are also theories. As of now, Kansas is to education what Michael Jackson is to child care.

(quoted from some Juggalo's blog) "Day 1 Rhyno def. Abyss Kid Kash vs 2 Tuff Tony NC Lenny Lane for the JCW belt (which vacated it) America’s Most Wanted ??? Mad Man Pondo/Sabu K-kwik and Samu doing a beat down on Rude Boy: the glass beer bottles started flying at this point. About 3 I counted, one way back to the stage, one to the ref’s head. The ref came back out all three days still, being legitimately fucked up and bleeding. That guy was hardcore. ICP NC AMW Day 2 Rhino vs D-Ray 3000 KC Bailey? Vs Mr Insanity: Bailey got a dollor staples to his mouth. Damn. Ron Killings vs some Own Hart looking jobber Battle royal, crowning Terry Funk JCW champ Day 3 Killings/Samu vs Bailey/Owen looking jobber Abyss vs Rhino Team Canada vs 2 Tuff Tony/Corporal Robinson: (Scott D’amore pulls a Canadian Destroyer on Petey Williams! Pulled the whole “I can’t see without my glasses” stick. Didn’t know he could go like that. Jarret vs Sabu ICP vs AMW"

Um, why do they need to waste more potential feuds by having more star vs. star matches each week? It's not like they need to beat Thunder in the ratings anymore. I'd prefer they had more jobber matches instead of killing guys' heat with even-steven booking where wins are irrelevant.

Richards-Tomko, Unforgiven 2004. Reigns-Taker, No Way Out 2005.