Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 7, 2003 I see a lot of people complaining about how Triple H has been RAW's World champion for too long and how he's "squashed" the entire RAW roster and all of that. Now, while I'll admit that it seems as if there are no challengers, it's not because HHH has beaten them all. It's because the creative team doesn't have anyone continue with their title chase. As I stated in an earlier thread about wrestlers not caring about the title, why does everyone who HHH beats seemingly give up the chase so soon? He might have beaten every top babyface contender, but if they just kept coming at him it wouldn't seem so bad. Besdies all that, from what I'd read on this board, people were tired of rapid-fire title changes. They wanted someone to hold the different belts for a long time to give them some meaning. When Chris Jericho won the World title, people were saying that he should have held it for at least one year. How come everyone wants HHH to give up his belt when old-timers like Ric Flair used to hold onto the title forever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 There's a difference between "long" and "mind-numbing". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 There's a difference between "long" and "mind-numbing". Hey, it could be worse. Like I said before...HHH could try to outlast Bruno Sammartino's 7 YEAR reign with the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 He brings up good points. The only feud to carry over past a month was...... Steiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 "It's because the creative team doesn't have anyone continue with their title chase." And who is the "Director of Creative"?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Triple H isn't elevating himself. He's not elevating the title- and he's not elevating the challenger. Now why should he be champion if he's 0-3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 I wouldn't mind a long title reign on him...if he was near as over as he use to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Triple H isn't elevating himself. He's not elevating the title- and he's not elevating the challenger. Now why should he be champion if he's 0-3? Because he's fucking the boss' daughter, and the boss don't want to make his daughter upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 After 9 months in the PPV age- it's flat out boring having a champion for that long. He's not like The Rock or Honky Tonk Man in that he was able to keep his reigns entertaining. He also had the PERFECT blowoff v. Booker T- and he still went over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 What are you talking about? HHH, you mean Hunter Hearst Helmsley? What a match he had with Bob Holly at Summerslam, eh? I propose the WWF start a feud between him and Henry Godwin immediately! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Wrestling math: Long title reign + good matches + not fucking over the roster = GOOD Long title reign + bad matches + fucking over the roster = BAD Which of those describes Triple H's run? I'll take the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 It's because the creative team doesn't have anyone continue with their title chase. Scott Steiner got a second shot and blew it. Booker T got a second shot and got screwed. RVD, Kane and Kevin Nash all got at least two shots. So people have been continuining their title chase- HHH just beats them again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 I don't mind long reigns, but lets face it- he's no where NEAR the performer he was a year or two ago. I know it's due to the injury and all, but if he can't bring his "A" game to the table while holding the belt, he doesn't deserve to hold the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 What are you talking about? HHH, you mean Hunter Hearst Helmsley? What a match he had with Bob Holly at Summerslam, eh? I propose the WWF start a feud between him and Henry Godwin immediately! ...if you're trying to re-spark the classic thread about the McMahon Ladder Legdrop...it ain't working son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Goddammit!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Goddammit!!!! Sorry. *Old School Undertaker Plushie* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Another thing to consider. HHH's reign has been a disaster since almost the very beginning. It's mind boggling that they haven't pulled the plug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garth 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 As much as i hate to say it i'm actually starting to enjoy Trippers again, maybe it has something to do with the awesome theme music/s by Motorhead and the fact that he's been kept out of the ring for some time now. My prediction is that he will hold on to it until at least Armageddon so that he can claim he's held the title for dead on a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Another thing to consider. HHH's reign has been a disaster since almost the very beginning. It's mind boggling that they haven't pulled the plug You forget though...the main focus of the reign is the guy that Vince McMahon confides in more than his own son. That alone should tell you why he hasn't pulled the plug on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Redhawk, this is my take on it. Long title reigns work when the champion comes out looking stronger out of it...AND the challengers as well. Ric Flair's long title reigns worked well because quite frankly, he worked great matches and in every single one of those matches he sold for his opponent to the point that it seemed he was going to lose it at any time. That isn't the case with HHH's current reign. He's made to be on a higher level than any of his challengers and when they do face him, he proves just that by burying them. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Yeah we wanted long reigns. From someone who deserves it, but sadly everyone has had their credibility flushed down the toilet on RAW. Leaving Kliq buddies left, except Nash whom the fans just don't seem to care about. I guess HHH got what he wanted. He's in a position where no one can argue for someone else as champ because everyone else has no credibility left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Goddammit!!!! Sorry. *Old School Undertaker Plushie* Undertaker will never be succesful unless he drops Brother Love and gets a manager with a ridiculously cheesy name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Yeah we wanted long reigns. From someone who deserves it, but sadly everyone has had their credibility flushed down the toilet on RAW. Leaving Kliq buddies left, except Nash whom the fans just don't seem to care about. I guess HHH got what he wanted. He's in a position where no one can argue for someone else as champ because everyone else has no credibility left. HURRICANE FOR WORLD CHAMPION! ...wait... ... Aw hell, I don't care if he doesn't have credibility in most people's eyes HURRICANE FOR WORLD CHAMPION! Seriously though...Credibility can be restored. Think of this...HHH was fighting in Hog Pen Matches and having Ultimate Warrior no sell his finisher. Look where he is now. Kurt Angle was in rediculous feuds for most of 2002 (horrendous if you ask Anglesault)...and look where he is now. Credibility can be restored. Hell, if they do things right, Kane's getting his restored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Who's this Hurricane that you speak of? And what makes you think he'll be the one to end Bruno Sammartino's reign? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Who's this Hurricane that you speak of? And what makes you think he'll be the one to end Bruno Sammartino's reign? Hey Dames... Are you sure you got ALL of them? Choken One. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 So no ones up for another classic thread then? Not even for old times sake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 7, 2003 since we mocked the classic thread twice already... You can't play it all by yourself... You can't TRY to create a classic thread...a classic thread Becomes a classic thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Guess it's just my youthful enthusiasm. I'll learn one day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Kurt Angle was in rediculous feuds for most of 2002 (horrendous if you ask Anglesault)... Damnit, they were horrendous! Did any of them have a valid reason for existing? Did any of them have positive long term (or hell, short term) effects? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 7, 2003 They made us laugh? well...not you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
