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Guest Coffey

I just gave him the premade moveset. I have no problem with him using his goozles as finishers.

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I'm using the premade moveset, 54, but I made a few changes here and there. So, for his specials, I'm using Powerbomb 15 (I think) and Moonsault.

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Guest Askewniverse

You could use Headscissor Takedown (I think that's the name) for the Vader Bomb. Matt Hardy and Eddie Guerrero have it in their movesets (unless you changed it). It's a standing aerial move, but if you do it to a fallen opponent, it could pass for the Vader Bomb.

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Guest Coffey

Yeah, but it won't pin. It looks really bad....

 

Truthfully, I really don't know why BANZAI Drop 2 wasn't the Vader Bomb....

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I just used the nastiest-looking powerbomb and gave it to him, along with the slowest moonsault. I used his default moveset but modified it heavily based off of the squash match with Tom Zenk and the match I have against Sting, along with a few strictly power moves.

 

Out of curiosity, how did you guys do his stats?

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I used to have a caw of myself with all 10s, but I got bored because it was too easy. I have Vader at 10s in strength and endurance, 5 in speed, 6 in submission and 7 in technique. It was just copied from Hogan and I raised the speed a little, so it probably could be better.

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I tried Shut Your Mouth recently and made Lyger in the half red half blue outfit. I thought I'd say it because I was very impressed with myself.

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Guest Trivia247
I tried Shut Your Mouth recently and made Lyger in the half red half blue outfit. I thought I'd say it because I was very impressed with myself.

SYM definately have a good CAW program. The HCTP one is also pretty good just here and there is a little frustrating. Like the body hair bit in the last game you can manually add each set of hair arms stomach chest back etc. and you could change the color. Now its just a BODY and you can't modify it too much because you also change the color of the skin in the process.

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Guest Trivia247

very cool Classic sting, pity I can't read Japanese code script or i'd bookmark that site

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My Vader has a 10 Strength, 8 Submission, 9.5 Endurance, 8 Tech, and 7 Speed. He's damned formidable, and I love beating the hell out of opponents with him.

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I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I noticed that RVD is the only character who can kick a chair into an opponent's face. Let me clarify: normally, when a character wields a chair, running and then attacking results in hitting the character over the head with it. But RVD runs with the chair and then dropkicks it into the opponent, like in real life. I tried to figure out if it was some combination of moves that let a CAW perform the same trick, but the only way I've been able to do it is if I create a new character, give him RVD's moveset, and then adjust the other moves accordingly. And so far, it hasn't affected the CAW's ability to do the chair dropkick.

 

I assume this goes for UT's zombie sit-up as well. Anybody know of any other moves/nuances that are strictly tied into the other characters?

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It has to do with his fighting stance. RVD's stance will give you the chair dropkick, as well as a slingshot leg drop on the apron. I think I mentioned how to do that before, but you have to whip your opponent into the ring when you're standing right next to it, and their head will be sticking out over the side. Press O and any direction to do it. That same thing with the Undertaker 1 stance will do his apron leg drop.

The stances also affect the way you sell strikes, Brock's basically no sells everything, Jericho hops around comically, Mysterio adjusts the mask, etc.

A couple more hidden moves: If you have swanton 2 as a finisher, an up or down grapple on top of a ladder will result in you pushing your opponent off, doing a different, extended taunt, and swantoning onto them. If you have Walls of Jericho 1 for a finish, you can do that on the ladder in the same way. If you have the 619, you can do a manual 619. If they're leaning against the ropes, run at them and press X by itself to do it, it's the best way to set up the springboard leg drop.

 

Oh, and the zombie situp can't be done by anyone except old school UT, no matter what you do.

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Guest cobainwasmurdered

when you pick what type of wrestler your guy is (Brawler, Striker, etc) does that make any difference or what?

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That only really matters if the computer is controlling them. It just represents the type of moves they'll go for most.

 

Oh, and I thought of another character nuance, for Angle and Benoit, but anyone with the Crossface or Anglelock can do it. If Angle catches the leg when he reverses a kick, he can go directly into the Anklelock. The computer will do it, and the finisher icon will flash for a second if you're controlling him. Benoit can do the same thing by catching a punch, but that's harder because it has to be a lefthanded punch.

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Yeah, I noticed that with my Ken Shamrock CAW. Any time I block a kick, I can transition straight into the anklelock, although I prefer his Special Anklelock, which starts out as an armbar, then he rolls into the anklelock. That gets an automatic tap out 9 times out of 10 if there's sufficient leg damage. No need to button mash or anything to get the submission. I noticed the same thing with the the Trailerhitch. Once you lock it on, your opponent more often than not taps out immediately.

 

And thanks for the tips on the stances, IDRM. I will definitely be doing some tweaking on my CAWS tonight!

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So... uh... Shawn Michaels jumped from Raw to Smackdown! to jopin my stable during that angle, and now he's won the Cruiserweight title... It never even dawned on me that Shawn is a cruiserweight. Are there any other wrestlers in the game that aren't really billed as cruisers in the real WWE and yet fit in that division in the game? (RVD and Eddie G immediately come to mind, so besides them)

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Guest Trivia247

How about the moves the game STILL Elects not to add...

 

When I make Tully Blanchard im gonna get some half ass Suplex, because they don't have a Slingshot Suplex!

 

And why do we have to use the Papa Shango like Power Shoulderbreaker, what happen to the classic Shoulderbreaker?

 

Give All the damn submission moves the Tap out meter damn it..... Figure fours don't get a tap out meter??? My greg valentine has to do that like three times after in ring psychology of wearing the legs down to red.

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...Are there any other wrestlers in the game that aren't really billed as cruisers in the real WWE and yet fit in that division in the game? (RVD and Eddie G immediately come to mind, so besides them)

Rico, Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas are the only ones that spring to mind. It sucks when I have to use them and then they can't do something simple like suplex Nash.

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I have the WWE Tag Team titles with my CAW and Undertaker, but we can't lose them because right now Taker and I are fueding for the WWE Championship. (I'm the champ right now, and our title match is scheduled for WMXIX)

 

I'm going to lose the title, but I also want to lose the tag team belts so I can jump to Raw. How should I go about getting rid of these belts?

Edited by Only The Strong Survive

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Guest Coffey

So, we're listing our champions now?

 

RAW

World Champion: The Rock

World Tag Team Champions: Shawn Michaels & Kevin Nash

Intercontinental Champion: Goldberg

Hardcore Champion: Christian (I still don't know why this belt is even in the fucking game. Yet, the women's title isn't...and you can select most of the women.)

 

 

Smackdown

WWE Champion: Undertaker (new school)

WWE U.S. Champion: Kurt Angle

WWE Tag Team Champions: Big Show & A-Train

WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Shelton Benjamin

 

This is what happens when you play through a lot of seasons and skip all the matches that aren't yours.

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I've played about four or five seasons on my game, carrying over stats, and Benoit and Angle have been Smackdown tag champs since more or less the beginning. Something like 30 or 40 succesfull defences.

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How about the moves the game STILL Elects not to add...

 

When I make Tully Blanchard im gonna get some half ass Suplex, because they don't have a Slingshot Suplex!

 

And why do we have to use the Papa Shango like Power Shoulderbreaker, what happen to the classic Shoulderbreaker?

 

Give All the damn submission moves the Tap out meter damn it..... Figure fours don't get a tap out meter??? My greg valentine has to do that like three times after in ring psychology of wearing the legs down to red.

Flair's Figure-4 gets a meter.

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