tpww7 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 Taken from 1wrestling. Rob Van Dam appeared Thursday on the McDonnell-Douglas radio show on KSPN Radio 710 in Los Angeles. It was a quick (about 10 minute) phone interview that mainly centered on his comic book store and the Rey Mysterio signing that was taking place just a few hours later. But, RVD did drop a little hint of what to see in the future possibly from his character. Here are some highlights: *His comic book store (www.twistedperception.com/5starindex.htm) has been open since July 22 and is doing very well. *It features not only comic books but a lot of wrestling merchandise, including a lot of ECW gear (DVDs/Videos/Action Figures). *When he signed autographs there last month they had such an overflow crowd that when the mall closed at 9 pm, there were still 350 people waiting to get things signed. He stayed and signed everything until 11 p.m. Due to that, now there will be a limited number of tickets sold per event. *Has been a long time comic book fan. He will find stores (using the Yellow Pages sometimes) in a lot of cities he travels to just to check them out. He can sometimes read up to 15 comic books a day. *Reading the books make him happy and takes him away from other stuff that doesn’t make him happy. RVD: “But, I don’t want to get into that right now.” *2 Part question asked from G-Dave Joseph (show board-op). 1-What happened to Tazz (why doesn’t he wrestle anymore)? 2-When are the announcers going to stop wrestling? *On Tazz he talked about how he likes announcing a lot and that he didn’t/doesn’t like “all the political crap”. *While talking about the announcers he mentioned how it goes to show you about the company when its #1 wrestler (Steve Austin) can never wrestle again yet he is the #1 wrestler.” And how “It’s all about star power” and that he is “waiting for my generation to work their way into the front office” (Unless HHH knocks off his father in-law in the near future I guess). *Joe then asked if he took any heat from his last appearance on the show with the comments he made. He said he didn’t (sure) and that he was told of the rumblings a few days later. Thought it was kind of “blown out of proportion”. *Talk then focused on Sunday's match. When Joe asked about it RVD replied, “Where did that come from? It happened kind of quick didn’t it?” It sounds like he was added last minute. *He then mentioned how he “would like to kick Chris Jericho’s ass. I’d like to kick Christian’s too”. *Then in a possible “spoiler” he mentioned how, “Maybe I will leave with the title. Maybe I will go looking for a new partner. I have someone in mind” *He then said “RVD is going to the top no matter what happens” and that he’d like to get his hands on the Heavyweight gold. He appreciates the fans and that he doesn’t need the gold to be over with them, unlike others who “need the trinket to shine”. The interview then closed by plugging Rey Mysterio’s appearance again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted September 19, 2003 A few sly digs here and there. Its not like he cares any more, and I liked his comment about his generation of wrestler working their way into the front office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 I love Rob Van Dam. He speaks his mind about WWE politics without fear, but he's already so over that Vince can't punish him without heavy backlash. Although that is most likely one of the reasons he gets HHHeld down in upper-midcard status. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 With all this shooting by RVD, we should just call him "The Lone Gunman" Also, Meatwad - change your avatar. It keeps asking for a user name & password. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 It's good that RVD is one of the few WWErs who cares enough to tell it like it is. Although he'll never be a draw like Rocky/Austin, if and when they let go of him, he'll definitely become a key part of their competitor's roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 "*While talking about the announcers he mentioned how it goes to show you about the company when its #1 wrestler (Steve Austin) can never wrestle again yet he is the #1 wrestler.” And how “It’s all about star power” and that he is “waiting for my generation to work their way into the front office” (Unless HHH knocks off his father in-law in the near future I guess)." Thank YOU! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 Got this from Keller which I found interesting and thought it fit this thread. - Another locker room favorite is RVD. He's been talking lately about how he thinks he deserves a bigger push than he's getting, which is probably true because he's over, but even people backstage who want to see him used better seem to understand why he's not. People describe him as being arrogant and dismissive about the notion that he might need to improve on anything. Which, he's a solid worker, but most objective viewers would agree that if you wanted to make a list of things he could improve on, there'd be a few areas to cover. Apparently he recently said something to the effect of considering himself in the Shawn Michaels league of workers, and on one of the radio shows he was on, he wrote off people who don't like his promos as "not getting" his dynamite verbal skills. He's also very dismissive about his stiff style and the fact that he's hurt people, most recently putting HHH out for a week or so. His attitude just doesn't help him build a lot of confidence with Vince as a guy they can depend on. Now I really can't blame him for dismissing the notion he has to improve when you consider that the show he's on is filled with a World Champ that can barely wrestle and a bunch of non-wrestlers, (Shane, JR, King, etc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 he is “waiting for my generation to work their way into the front office So who does everyone think is going to be the first of the current generation of wrestlers to work their way into the office? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 Kurt Angle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2003 Another memorable interview from one of my heros. Damn good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 The first of the current generation of wrestlers is HHH, who really will be running hte company once he marries Steph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Apparently he recently said something to the effect of considering himself in the Shawn Michaels league of workers, and on one of the radio shows he was on, he wrote off people who don't like his promos as "not getting" his dynamite verbal skills. Rob can't touch HBK in the ring, but as far as his mic skills...I dunno. He's not the Rock, but I always liked Rob's ECW stuff with Sabu and Fonzie. When he's given good dialogue (by this, I mean not sending him out there to do a Flair impersonation, which was completely out of character for him), Rob's passable on the mic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Shawn could a SWEET heel interview but sucked heavy nuts as a Face because he never seemed innocent enough to sell that face angle. RVD can't really do much in terms of ACTING but that's one of his better quality...realistic attitude... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Shawn could a SWEET heel interview but sucked heavy nuts as a Face because he never seemed innocent enough to sell that face angle. Shawn's face stuff in 95 was gold. He's more believable trying to play Mr. Cool as opposed to playing a saint. And heel Shawn...well...heel Shawn is my hero. Edit: Choken, I wasn't trying to compare their mic skills, just for the record. RVD isn't in Shawn's league in that category either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Well, It was gold because they gave the fucking guy every damn sappy thing possible "Best Friend Leaves Him" "Bodyguard and Protector Turns on Him" "Wins the IC title in a dramatic Against the odds match" "Went to the limit against his toughest challenger in the "greatest" and most physically demanding match "Ladder" "Was forced to forfiet his title because of a Attack" "Gave title away to undeserving Heel" "Returned in a big fucking way" "Suffered a Carrer Altering Injury" "Returned and won the rumble" "Reached his boyhood dream" "Fought through Salacious Accusations" (diana) "Fought evil and conquered" (Camp Cornette) "Sacrificed his title for his idol and mentor" (series) "Won back title in Hometown" "Lost his desire and had to walk away" (smile) This would get ANYONE over as that uber gold babyface. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Well, It was gold because they gave the fucking guy every damn sappy thing possible "Best Friend Leaves Him" "Bodyguard and Protector Turns on Him" "Wins the IC title in a dramatic Against the odds match" "Went to the limit against his toughest challenger in the "greatest" and most physically demanding match "Ladder" "Was forced to forfiet his title because of a Attack" "Gave title away to undeserving Heel" "Returned in a big fucking way" "Suffered a Carrer Altering Injury" "Returned and won the rumble" "Reached his boyhood dream" "Fought through Salacious Accusations" (diana) "Fought evil and conquered" (Camp Cornette) "Sacrificed his title for his idol and mentor" (series) "Won back title in Hometown" "Lost his desire and had to walk away" (smile) This would get ANYONE over as that uber gold babyface. Think you missed my point. What I meant was Shawn's early face promos from 95, when he was in his whole "Joe Cool" mode were gold. His face promos didn't really start falling off until early to mid 96...somewhere between the Ironman match and Beware of Dog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Now I really can't blame him for dismissing the notion he has to improve when you consider that the show he's on is filled with a World Champ that can barely wrestle and a bunch of non-wrestlers, (Shane, JR, King, etc) At the VERY least, HHH, Austin, and GB can claim to have drawn some money. RVD can't even claim that. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. RVD is seriously lacking in that regard --- ECW marks be damned. RVD is a very, very average in-ring worker and will need Jericho to basically carry the entire 3-way for the match to work. Rob isn't bad --- and a World Title run on RAW is hardly out of line --- but he is hardly one of the greats and if he were on SD, his flaws would stick out BIG-TIME. He's nothing special. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 20, 2003 I'm sure RVD drew money in ECW but those were bingo chips so that means nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Now I really can't blame him for dismissing the notion he has to improve when you consider that the show he's on is filled with a World Champ that can barely wrestle and a bunch of non-wrestlers, (Shane, JR, King, etc) At the VERY least, HHH, Austin, and GB can claim to have drawn some money. RVD can't even claim that. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. RVD is seriously lacking in that regard --- ECW marks be damned. RVD is a very, very average in-ring worker and will need Jericho to basically carry the entire 3-way for the match to work. Rob isn't bad --- and a World Title run on RAW is hardly out of line --- but he is hardly one of the greats and if he were on SD, his flaws would stick out BIG-TIME. He's nothing special. -=Mike *groan* I'm so tired of hearing some of this arguments. Okay, let's start from the beginning. "At the VERY least, HHH, Austin, and GB can claim to have drawn some money. RVD can't even claim that." When has he been given the opportunity ? When has he been given the chance to carry the ball ? Triple H has held the Raw title 11 out of 12 months, he damn well better draw some money. Austin was the sole reason behind WWE Attitude, and the full force of the WWE Marketing Machine, so he better draw some money. And Goldberg has only drawn money in WCW - in WWE, he's been a bust so far. But when has RVD had a run with the Heavyweight Title ? When has RVD had a high profile feud revolve around him [The Kane Squash-A-Thon doesn't count] He's never been given a chance to see IF he could bring in the viewers or not, so this argument holds no water whatsoever. And, by the way, RVD wasn't on Armageddon 2002 - and it had one of the lowest buyrates for PPV in recent memory. Coincidence ? Perhaps. But I'm sure there were some people who did not buy it because of the exclusion of RVD. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. RVD is seriously lacking in that regard --- ECW marks be damned. RVD vs Jeff Hardy - Invasion 01 RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Ladder Match - SummerSlam 01 RVD vs. Chris Jericho - Unforgiven 01 RVD vs Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin - No Mercy 01 RVD vs Undertaker - Vengeance 01 RVD vs Eddie Guerrero - Backlash 02 RVD vs Eddie Guerrero - Judgment Day 02 RVD vs Chris Jericho - King of the Ring 02 RVD vs Chris Benoit - SummerSlam 02 Elimination Chamber - Survivor Series 02 -And nope, no PPV matches in 2003, since the majority were teaming with Kane versus the likes of superstars like Regal & Storm, the Dudleys, and La Resistance. If these teams don't know how to put on ***** classics, I don't know what teams do. These have only been his good-great PPV matches in his WWE career thus far. I didn't include his matches with Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, the Rock, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, the ladder match with Eddie Guerrero, Tommy Dreamer, etc. that took place on Raw or Smackdown and were highly enjoyable. I didn't even bring up any of his ECW matches, with some of them being extreme classics. Has he perhaps had as many GREAT matches as HHH or Austin ? No. But this can be attributed to his different style and, since he has had so many good matches, it looks like he's doing something right. RVD is a very, very average in-ring worker and will need Jericho to basically carry the entire 3-way for the match to work. It's your opinion RVD is a very, very average in-ring worker. I consider him above average. It's not his fault he's been put in tag matches, squash matches, and 3-minute matches for the past year. When he's allowed to really haul ass, like in the above mentioned matches, he knows how to shine. Rob isn't bad --- and a World Title run on RAW is hardly out of line --- but he is hardly one of the greats and if he were on SD, his flaws would stick out BIG-TIME. Finally, I agree. Rob isn't bad -- and a World Title run on Raw isn't out of line at all. And nobody here has been calling RVD one of the greats. However, he continuously gets enormously loud crowd support, puts on good matches when given the chance, and would be a fresh alternative to the staleness we have now. And, finally, you say he would stick out like a sore thumb on Smackdown - he's had good-great matches with Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Undertaker - four guys that are on Smackdown right now. I don't think he'd stick out at all, and working with these guys could only make him even better. Wrestling La Resistance and Three Minute Warning this year has done nothing with his skills. Stick him on Smackdown, and he would finally have the opponents he needs to truly shine. He's nothing special. He's something special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 At the VERY least, HHH, Austin, and GB can claim to have drawn some money. RVD can't even claim that. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. RVD is seriously lacking in that regard --- ECW marks be damned. The word is HAD drawn money. What have they drawn lately. Of course, that can be said for the company as a hole. RVD has never been put in top spot were he can draw or try to. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. Austin hasn't jack shit in the ring since Mania and HHH, cept for a match here and there, can barely to anything in the ring. Either cause of his injuries or his attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 20, 2003 *groan* I'm so tired of hearing some of this arguments. Okay, let's start from the beginning. "At the VERY least, HHH, Austin, and GB can claim to have drawn some money. RVD can't even claim that." When has he been given the opportunity ? When has he been given the chance to carry the ball ? Triple H has held the Raw title 11 out of 12 months, he damn well better draw some money. Austin was the sole reason behind WWE Attitude, and the full force of the WWE Marketing Machine, so he better draw some money. And Goldberg has only drawn money in WCW - in WWE, he's been a bust so far. But when has RVD had a run with the Heavyweight Title ? When has RVD had a high profile feud revolve around him [The Kane Squash-A-Thon doesn't count] He's never been given a chance to see IF he could bring in the viewers or not, so this argument holds no water whatsoever. And, by the way, RVD wasn't on Armageddon 2002 - and it had one of the lowest buyrates for PPV in recent memory. Coincidence ? Perhaps. But I'm sure there were some people who did not buy it because of the exclusion of RVD. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. RVD is seriously lacking in that regard --- ECW marks be damned. RVD vs Jeff Hardy - Invasion 01 RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Ladder Match - SummerSlam 01 RVD vs. Chris Jericho - Unforgiven 01 RVD vs Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin - No Mercy 01 RVD vs Undertaker - Vengeance 01 RVD vs Eddie Guerrero - Backlash 02 RVD vs Eddie Guerrero - Judgment Day 02 RVD vs Chris Jericho - King of the Ring 02 RVD vs Chris Benoit - SummerSlam 02 Elimination Chamber - Survivor Series 02 -And nope, no PPV matches in 2003, since the majority were teaming with Kane versus the likes of superstars like Regal & Storm, the Dudleys, and La Resistance. If these teams don't know how to put on ***** classics, I don't know what teams do. These have only been his good-great PPV matches in his WWE career thus far. I didn't include his matches with Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, the Rock, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, the ladder match with Eddie Guerrero, Tommy Dreamer, etc. that took place on Raw or Smackdown and were highly enjoyable. I didn't even bring up any of his ECW matches, with some of them being extreme classics. Has he perhaps had as many GREAT matches as HHH or Austin ? No. But this can be attributed to his different style and, since he has had so many good matches, it looks like he's doing something right. RVD is a very, very average in-ring worker and will need Jericho to basically carry the entire 3-way for the match to work. It's your opinion RVD is a very, very average in-ring worker. I consider him above average. It's not his fault he's been put in tag matches, squash matches, and 3-minute matches for the past year. When he's allowed to really haul ass, like in the above mentioned matches, he knows how to shine. Rob isn't bad --- and a World Title run on RAW is hardly out of line --- but he is hardly one of the greats and if he were on SD, his flaws would stick out BIG-TIME. Finally, I agree. Rob isn't bad -- and a World Title run on Raw isn't out of line at all. And nobody here has been calling RVD one of the greats. However, he continuously gets enormously loud crowd support, puts on good matches when given the chance, and would be a fresh alternative to the staleness we have now. And, finally, you say he would stick out like a sore thumb on Smackdown - he's had good-great matches with Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Undertaker - four guys that are on Smackdown right now. I don't think he'd stick out at all, and working with these guys could only make him even better. Wrestling La Resistance and Three Minute Warning this year has done nothing with his skills. Stick him on Smackdown, and he would finally have the opponents he needs to truly shine. He's nothing special. He's something special. Even ECW wouldn't give him "the ball" to run with. What in the world does THAT tell you? Austin drew because he was both a great in-ring worker (hate it if you wish) and the fans truly got into his character. Fans may like RVD's "cool" schtick, but they tend to sit on their hands when he is getting pounded on, largely because his selling is weak and he provides no real basis for an emotional attachment to his character. He still has yet to learn to tell a story in the ring. His mic skills are still beyond horrendous (could he, just once, NOT sound like he's friggin' stoned out of his gourd?) If ANYBODY in the business thought he COULD draw money, he would be given the opportunity. It's not like RVD was pushed like mad when Heyman was a major force in WWE writing, so even a guy who should be his biggest supporter didn't support him. RVD was on Bad Blood. Shall we go into that show's great buy rate? Did Unforgiven 2002 do a huge number, considering that RVD was in the ME? As for RVD's "great" matches, you are stretching BIG-TIME there. The best he had was with Jericho at Unforgiven '01, and that wasn't 4 stars. The rest were OK spotfests. If you have to use his matches with Jeff Hardy on PPV to prove his greatness, then he is hardly great. Heck, he's improved A TON since he's been in the WWE --- and he's still hardly a top-tier performer. Again, on SD, he'd be well down the ladder in terms of talent. Heck, why not mention his vastly overrated series with Jerry Lynn while we're at it? Oh, wait, his ECW matches which were "Extreme" classics. If you mean classics in comparison to the rest of the bilge ECW was churning out, you might have a point. If you mean classics in comparison to matches that were actually good, you're up the creek without a paddle. Jericho took Jeff Hardy to a solid 3 1/2 star affair at NWO when Hardy hadn't been hitting one star matches for the past few months. Angle took Big Show and Undertaker to better matches than RVD has had in a LONG time now. Good workers can make something good out of crap. RVD has been given chances to work "his" kind of matches, and outside of his series with Guerrero, nothing he has done in a while has stood out (and Guerrero can take almost anybody to something good since he's come back). He has the ECW fan boy contingent in his back pocket, but since that contingent couldn't even keep ECW afloat, I wouldn't push him too hard until he DID improve A LOT of his problems. I guess I missed those great matches with UT. If you mention Vengeance '01, I might laugh a bit. RVD is just another ECW-style spot worker. He is a pure indy style worker who can't draw a dime to save his life. He's Sabu with slightly less contrived spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 20, 2003 At the VERY least, HHH, Austin, and GB can claim to have drawn some money. RVD can't even claim that. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. RVD is seriously lacking in that regard --- ECW marks be damned. The word is HAD drawn money. What have they drawn lately. Of course, that can be said for the company as a hole. RVD has never been put in top spot were he can draw or try to. And HHH and Austin can point to some legitimately great matches that they've been involved in. Austin hasn't jack shit in the ring since Mania and HHH, cept for a match here and there, can barely to anything in the ring. Either cause of his injuries or his attitude. Austin also has a neck that is in crap shape, so he has a bit of an excuse --- yet he's STILL more over than RVD could ever dream to be. HHH is terrible right now --- but in 2000, he was one of the best workers out there. And he can still claim he drew once. RVD was ECW's biggest "star", yet it was Vince's money that kept ECW afloat for a while, not RVD's drawing prowess. Robbie has never had that honor. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 20, 2003 How can he claim that when it was ROCK who was the draw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 20, 2003 How can he claim that when it was ROCK who was the draw? Without compelling heels, faces don't draw well. See WCW, 2000-01. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Or Vice Versa... Flair was the jesus christ of Heels in 1989 but his main face challenger DREW ABSOLUTE no interest and pretty much sank the ship... The guy people claimed could overtake Hogan...BULLSHIT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Austin also has a neck that is in crap shape, so he has a bit of an excuse --- yet he's STILL more over than RVD could ever dream to be. HHH is terrible right now --- but in 2000, he was one of the best workers out there. And he can still claim he drew once. RVD was ECW's biggest "star", yet it was Vince's money that kept ECW afloat for a while, not RVD's drawing prowess. Yeah but, just cause of what they DID do doesn't give them a right to hog all the air time. And that goes double for Austin who isn't even wrestling and just beating up and going over active wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Austin also has a neck that is in crap shape, so he has a bit of an excuse --- yet he's STILL more over than RVD could ever dream to be. HHH is terrible right now --- but in 2000, he was one of the best workers out there. And he can still claim he drew once. RVD was ECW's biggest "star", yet it was Vince's money that kept ECW afloat for a while, not RVD's drawing prowess. Yeah but, just cause of what they DID do doesn't give them a right to hog all the air time. And that goes double for Austin who isn't even wrestling and just beating up and going over active wrestlers. At this point, they're trying to find ANYTHING that might keep the fans engaged. Austin always generates huge pops, deservedly or not. RVD does not. If you're trying to give the fans "what they want", who would YOU push? If you'd give RVD more air time than Austin, you're as bad as HHH pushing himself more than he probably deserves (then again, outside of Booker T, he hasn't faced A SOUL who would do better for business than him this year). -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 At this point, they're trying to find ANYTHING that might keep the fans engaged. Austin always generates huge pops, deservedly or not. RVD does not. If you're trying to give the fans "what they want", who would YOU push? If you'd give RVD more air time than Austin, you're as bad as HHH pushing himself more than he probably deserves (then again, outside of Booker T, he hasn't faced A SOUL who would do better for business than him this year). Hey I'm not saying Austin doesn't get huge pops but, it doesn't means he gets to go over active wrestlers. I think they could use Austin way better. And RVD does get good pops and they chant his name, of course the pops are not as huge as they were when he first entered the WWE but, they are still good enough to give him a push. And I'm as bad as HHH for pushing RVD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Apparently he recently said something to the effect of considering himself in the Shawn Michaels league of workers, and on one of the radio shows he was on, he wrote off people who don't like his promos as "not getting" his dynamite verbal skills. Rob can't touch HBK in the ring, but as far as his mic skills...I dunno. He's not the Rock, but I always liked Rob's ECW stuff with Sabu and Fonzie. When he's given good dialogue (by this, I mean not sending him out there to do a Flair impersonation, which was completely out of character for him), Rob's passable on the mic. That's what RVD said on the interview he had back in June. They don't understand his character and they don't let him be himself on the mic. Instead they give him scripts to read. That's why everything he did sounded so natural in ECW and why it sounds so forced now. "When i first came in, you'd be surprised at what came back to me from their meetings. They had these talks that went "oh i get it, he's a surfer, right? Isn't he a surfer?" "No I think he's a hippie!" "No you know what, he's a druggie". They don't get it and they don't understand my attitude but you know i remain consistant and persistant to be me. As far as the microphone skills go, well if anybody saw the ECW show, which I SWEAR it's hard to believe that these guys did see it, sometimes it's hard to believe these guys even heard of me before i came there, i used to be able to have the freedom to get on the microphone, me and fonzie, we would ad lib most of the time, not even have anything scripted out, and we had the best time doing that. We would just go out and we would have fun, and you know now i get to WWE, and they actually hand me these scripts, where i read the part for RVD and here's my line "Cool". You want me say cool? That's all?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2003 Austin also has a neck that is in crap shape, so he has a bit of an excuse --- yet he's STILL more over than RVD could ever dream to be. HHH is terrible right now --- but in 2000, he was one of the best workers out there. And he can still claim he drew once. RVD was ECW's biggest "star", yet it was Vince's money that kept ECW afloat for a while, not RVD's drawing prowess. Yeah but, just cause of what they DID do doesn't give them a right to hog all the air time. And that goes double for Austin who isn't even wrestling and just beating up and going over active wrestlers. At this point, they're trying to find ANYTHING that might keep the fans engaged. Austin always generates huge pops, deservedly or not. RVD does not. If you're trying to give the fans "what they want", who would YOU push? If you'd give RVD more air time than Austin, you're as bad as HHH pushing himself more than he probably deserves (then again, outside of Booker T, he hasn't faced A SOUL who would do better for business than him this year). -=Mike This guy is a good example of an RVD hater, people will come out with plenty of good reasons for RVD getting a push, but this guy will shot them down every chance he gets. In other words trying to have a reasonable discussion with this guy is out of the question, but believe me if for some rerason WWE decides to let RVD carry the ball Mike will be the first one to jump into the bandwagon, but right now his biased mind won't allow him to listen to reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites