BUTT Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Well, now that they've done the 25 most overrated, they've obviously taken the next logical step. Here's 25-16: 25. The City Building Series 24. Wizardry 8 23. Blood 22. Um Jammer Lammy 21. Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis 20. Codename: Eagle Multiplayer 19. No One Lives Forever 18. Jumping Flash! I & II 17. Suikoden II 16. Klonoa: Door to Phantomile Since I've never played any of those games, I can't really comment on them. I can't really guess what games will be on here, but I'd like to see StarTropics get on the list, since it's my all-time favorite NES game. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
Renegade Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Suikoden II underated? Its a friggin classic to rpg fans.
razazteca Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 19. No One Lives Forever - I love this game, the Austin Powers comedy in it is funny and its a great FPS.
Ed Wood Caulfield Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Um Jammy Lammy is a great game. It doesn't get the reconigtion that Pa Rappa The Rapper gets, even though it's just as great. The best part is that if you finish the game, you unlock Pa Rappa The Rapper and play the game again except to rap beats.
Star Ocean 3 Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 There are like, two people who don't like Suikoden 2. It's overrated if anything.
Red Baron Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 by there standards.... GTA III will be number 1 for most under-rated game of all time.
Cavi Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 I don't see how NOLF is underrated. It won numerous end of year awards and scored well across the board (as it should have, in my opinion, as I think the series is quite excellent).
Jer Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 There are like, two people who don't like Suikoden 2. It's overrated if anything. The list is focusing on what the media said, not what hardcore RPG fans on message boards say. Suik 2 was totally ignored in favor of FF8 despite being infinately better than FF8, and was relegated to one paragraph reviews from people that didn't play it. EGM gave it a 7.0 because characters couldn't move diagonally. So yes, in terms of the media, it's unbelievably underrated. I'd have it higher up, myself.
Yuna_Firerose Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 I'm sure, and hoping, that Ico is on there, as it's vastly underrated.
chirs3 Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Yea, NOLF won a ton of awards from various publications, and was well-recieved almost everywhere. How is that Underrated?
Renegade Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 I think Jumping flash deserves its place there. Robbit was a true mascot.
BUTT Posted September 30, 2003 Author Report Posted September 30, 2003 Here's the criteria for being on the list: "Poor Sales: All the ingredients were there: great gameplay, critical attention, even good marketing. But for some reason gamers themselves didn't open their wallets to take it home. Outta Nowhere: These are the "sleepers," great games from unexpected places. No hype, no big names -- just fun from out of left field that people overlooked. Originality: Sometimes great games are too experimental for their own good. These ones tinkered with new gameplay so much that people may have been afraid to try it. Overlooked: Finally, a category that includes a little of most of the above. We can't say why, but either critics or gamers just plain missed this otherwise awesome title. "
The Ghost of bps21 Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Given those criteria... Eternal Darkness DAMNIT!!!
Downhome Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 I'm sure, and hoping, that Ico is on there, as it's vastly underrated. If ICO isn't on the list, then someone needs their balls clamped! I'd even put Mark of Kri on there, it's one of my favorites of all time.
Guest EQ Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I bet that Ico will end up being in the top 5. The game is a classic in my view, yet nobody really bought it I'm marking out for the fact that Jumping Flash made the list. I used to LOVE that game
Karnage Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 With that Criteria, they should include all those SEGA games that were released on XBOX and that are now being sold at bargain bin prices.
Sandman9000 Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I'm hoping for Amplitude/Frequency to be on that list.
El Psycho Diablo Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 System Shock 1/2 needs to be on that list, somewhere.
Star Ocean 3 Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 There are like, two people who don't like Suikoden 2. It's overrated if anything. The list is focusing on what the media said, not what hardcore RPG fans on message boards say. Suik 2 was totally ignored in favor of FF8 despite being infinately better than FF8, and was relegated to one paragraph reviews from people that didn't play it. EGM gave it a 7.0 because characters couldn't move diagonally. So yes, in terms of the media, it's unbelievably underrated. I'd have it higher up, myself. Even a 7.0 is too high a score. Might as well put most RPGs up there because they're all overshadowed by Final Fantasy in the media. Underrated is not the same as overlooked.
AndrewTS Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I think Jumping flash deserves its place there. Robbit was a true mascot. Damn straight. First true 3D platformer, beating Mario 64 by a year or so. Yet, II is far superior a game. Klonoa's awesome. Didn't get the PS version but I have Klonoa 2 and the GBA release.
{''({o..o})''} Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Quick queston here, could Chakan for Genesis be considered underated?
Kahran Ramsus Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I really enjoyed EVO on the SNES, but most people hated it.
Kahran Ramsus Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Could Earthbound be considered underrated? I remember pretty bad reviews at the time, but people seem to like it these days.
razazteca Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 System Shock 1/2 needs to be on that list, somewhere. It should be #1
Jer Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Even a 7.0 is too high a score. Might as well put most RPGs up there because they're all overshadowed by Final Fantasy in the media. Eh whatever, Suikoden 2 is one of my all time favorite games. Most RPGs are overshadowed by FF, but most RPGs aren't as good as Suik 2 and thus don't deserve as high a place on the list, imo. I want to see Vagrant Story on there. Amazing game, completely ignored for no reason.
AndrewTS Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Could Earthbound be considered underrated? I remember pretty bad reviews at the time, but people seem to like it these days. It was well-liked when it was released for the quirky humor. Horrible marketing campaign, but good game. Quick queston here, could Chakan for Genesis be considered underated? Considering Gamefan did a Graveyard feature on it, I would think so. Did that sequel that was in the works to it EVER come out? Crystalis for the NES. It's a great game I hear. Never heard a bad review on it, but don't know how well it sold. *shrug* So someone more knowledgeable about that could probably tell you.
{''({o..o})''} Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Considering Gamefan did a Graveyard feature on it, I would think so. Did that sequel that was in the works to it EVER come out? Pretty sure it didn't because I remember signing a "save Chakan 2" petition like almost 2 years ago and you know how succesful online petition are(were).
AndrewTS Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Considering Gamefan did a Graveyard feature on it, I would think so. Did that sequel that was in the works to it EVER come out? Pretty sure it didn't because I remember signing a "save Chakan 2" petition like almost 2 years ago and you know how succesful online petition are(were). Hmph. Figures. I wasn't sure because I don't even remember what system it was supposed to come out on. The Forever Man was an awesome title in its day, and probably even today. However, I reeeeeeally sucked at it.
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