Ratings going down the toilet

[Guest JericholicEdgeHead]

This is just a what if question I thought I would throw out.

 

Let's say RAW and Smackdown's ratings drop below a 3.0, how long do you think it will take for Vince to panic, and end the brand extention??

 

Do you think he would do this first before firing Brian Gewirtz and some of the "Hollywood" writers??

Or do you think Vince will try to shock us with another over the top angle in hopes of bring some viewers back?

 

If both shows fall below a 3.0 rating I think we might start to see some changes, or at least I would hope so.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Vince wouldn't care. The only way I can see this turning out good is if the Board of Directors of WWE vote Vince out of power due to mental incompetence and replace him w/ somebody who actually knows how to book wrestling.

 

And what I just mentioned above has a snowballs chance in hell of happening, so get ready for the shit to continue......

[dubq 0]

Let's say RAW and Smackdown's ratings drop below a 3.0, how long do you think it will take for Vince to panic, and end the brand extention??

Ending the brand extension would be be BEYOND stupid at this point, regardless of the ratings.

[jester 0]

I don't think it's the brand extension that has lead to blah ratings.

 

If Vince were to panic, he'd probably do something really fucked up, so much so that it makes the Katie Vick angle look reasonable.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

He'd do the opposite of what needs to be done.

 

And he'd bring back more stars from the 80s/90s

[Crimson Platypus 0]

Three words: Incest on television.

[haVoc 0]

Three words: Incest on television.

Might as well. Vince checks out Steph's tits almost every time on camera.

[Austin3164life 0]

If Vince didn't push the panic button when the ratings fell like this in May-June, I don't see it happening right now. While the ratings are a bit alarming, they're not at the point where the WWE is in dier straits.

[iggymcfly 0]

Actually, I have to say that I couldn't stay interested enough to watch Raw last week without Triple H on. I can't think of a champion I'm much less interested in than Goldberg. If they built Kane up right and gave him the belt, it might work, but Goldberg's really passe right now.

[Mole 0]

Vince wouldn't care. The only way I can see this turning out good is if the Board of Directors of WWE vote Vince out of power due to mental incompetence and replace him w/ somebody who actually knows how to book wrestling.

There is a Board of Directors that can vote Vince off?

 

I really don't think so.

[Guest thrall585]

WWE Smackdown did a low overnight rating of 2.8 with a 4 share this week. The final number will be out later today.

credit: 1wrestling.com

 

A 2.8 overnight rating? It must be a typo from 1wrestling.com

[tpww7 0]

Figures...they finally put focus on someone good (Eddy) and the ratings go down.

[Guest JericholicEdgeHead]

Maybe Vince should hire another Dutch Mantell type of booker and get rid of the "Hollywood" writers.

 

I doubt that will ever happen though.

[Guest Plushy Al Logan]

Three words: Incest on television.

Might as well. Vince checks out Steph's tits almost every time on camera.

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Vince goes too far in the I Quit match, by pulling Steph's pants down and spanking her. HHH kills him and takes the company

[OldSchoolWrestling 0]

Three words: Incest on television.

Might as well. Vince checks out Steph's tits almost every time on camera.

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Vince goes too far in the I Quit match, by pulling Steph's pants down and spanking her. HHH kills him and takes the company

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

But don't forget Shane O' Mac will fight for the good of his family to regain it back

[Guest Plushy Al Logan]

Three words: Incest on television.

Might as well. Vince checks out Steph's tits almost every time on camera.

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Vince goes too far in the I Quit match, by pulling Steph's pants down and spanking her. HHH kills him and takes the company

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

But don't forget Shane O' Mac will fight for the good of his family to regain it back

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Kane will come out and play with his balls again. The corpse of Vinnie Mac fucks Steph in the ass, leading to a mass suicide of everyone in attendance

[Guest thrall585]

I'm wondering when the Vince vs Linda Hell in a Cell match will be.

[Guest Plushy Al Logan]

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Shane will be out of the company soon. In 20 years the main event will be Vinnie Mac and his new wife (Steph) vs. Shane's kids for control of the company in a Buried Alive match. Guess the outcome here

[SamoaRowe 0]

2.8 rating? Ouch. I don't think the rating has been that low in a year!

[JasonX 0]

<Let's say RAW and Smackdown's ratings drop below a 3.0, how long do you think it will take for Vince to panic, and end the brand extention?? >

 

Not yet unfortunately. Vince seems to be deadset about keeping the brand extension just to spite the critics who know what a crock of shit it is and has been and will continue to be, mainly do to the fact that after the XFL failure Vince doesn't want to be seen as a two-time loser.

 

It will be the first thing to go though.

 

<Do you think he would do this first before firing Brian Gewirtz and some of the "Hollywood" writers??>

 

He would probably end brand extension and fire Gerwirtz at the same time to create the image that old Vince is back and ready to make things better. But in the end Steph will still have a key roll in the booking process and that Vince will just replace Brian and co. with new Hollywood writers or worse, Kevin Nash.

 

<Or do you think Vince will try to shock us with another over the top angle in hopes of bring some viewers back?>

 

Yes. He'll probably do some sort of crazy angle (I'm betting on HHH and Steph breaking kayfabe on live camera and admitting they are married in real life and reunite them) to bring viewers back as opposed to the more popular incest theory....

 

<If both shows fall below a 3.0 rating I think we might start to see some changes, or at least I would hope so.>

 

As it stands, 3.0-3.9 has been established as being Vince's core audience, the ones who stay through all of the shit and split-roster bullshit, and "I'm Fucking the Boss's Daughter And Can Do Whatever I Want!"-Mania. So long as the numbers don't drop below 3.0, expect Vince to do jack shit.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

The Brand Extension has ruined the ratings. Its cuts the audience in half. Some fans like to see Angle and Undertaker so they aren't in as much of a rush to see RAW, others like Triple H and Godberg so they don't bother with Smackdown. You don't think this is true? It is. The Brand Extension was stupid from day one, and it alienates the fans. Fuck it.

[CanadianChick 0]

One positive thing that could come out of ending the brand extension is less McMahons. I bet the reason why they're on TV in the first place is because they feel the shows need more star power. If the brand reunite again, there won't be a need for star power anymore. Of course, this would effect pushes of younger guys who are at the cusp of the main events, but really, there aren't that many pushes going on in the first place.

[Guest Trivia247]

Vince whom dwells in the highest room atop the Tallest of Titan's tower doesn't perceive ratings...he believes all the fans wanna see is McMahons and More McMahons

 

and if the crowd booing cuz they suck he thinks nawww they are booing because we are heels and they are suppose boo we are ratings gods...doy

[Guest Memphis]

I think the brand extension has made for better television, espicially now that it has been a considerable amount of time since it began and the two brands are actually starting to resemble their own little wrestling federations.

 

The trouble doesn't lie in the brand extension, more so how the wrestlers on each brand are handled. RAW is a prime example of going out of your way to define 'counter-productive' on television.

 

Unless Steph goes, the problem is just going to get worse, and because Vince's ego and manhood rides on the decision of who makes creative decisions in his company, I highly doubt we'll see the problem rectified where necessary.

 

Rats, meet sinking ship.

 

Nature M

[JasonX 0]

<One positive thing that could come out of ending the brand extension is less McMahons. I bet the reason why they're on TV in the first place is because they feel the shows need more star power.>

 

The brand extension has only fueled the McMahon's obsession with themselves on TV. They monopoloize even MORE time and take the credit for the ratings increases while blaming just about everyone else for the ratings dropping...

 

<Of course, this would effect pushes of younger guys who are at the cusp of the main events, but really, there aren't that many pushes going on in the first place.>

 

The solution is to totally divorce the main event to the bullshit guys (HHH, Austin, Rock, and UT) and give the midcard exclusively to Benoit, Angle, Jericho, and company to rule after killing the split. That way you have the top workers on both shows and doing their own thing while HHH and the rest continue their circle jerk games.....

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Vince & Stepnh were on more before the split than they are now. I can't believe that nobody remembers this. Remember when she fought for the WWF Title?

[Guest Breetai]

Yes, Vince will puch the panic button.

 

 

The panic button being, of course, more McMahons on TV, and more big men in the main event.

[Highland 0]

Ratings are important, but I don't think Vince is sweating bullets. Yet. I think that the only real thing that is needed is someone to come out of the blue. It could be someone new or someone already established, but the right gimmick used to greatly put them over (ie Rocky Maivia turning into the Rock and Ringmaster turning to SCSA).

[Ultra Violence 0]

I think they actually need to give Lesner a proper gimmick and name, he could draw more.... especially with someone to talk for him.

 

RVD could be over huge, if built up right.

 

Gurrero = next SD Champ

[res37618 0]

The Brand Extension has ruined the ratings. Its cuts the audience in half. Some fans like to see Angle and Undertaker so they aren't in as much of a rush to see RAW, others like Triple H and Godberg so they don't bother with Smackdown. You don't think this is true? It is. The Brand Extension was stupid from day one, and it alienates the fans. Fuck it.

You're absolutely right.

 

Listen, I've kinda liked the brand extension as much as anyone else - it's made Smackdown! a much more enjoyable show (with Guerrero, Benoit, Lesnar, Angle - how could it not be?) - but even I can admit that when it comes to the "casual fan", they may be a little upset or confused as to why they can't see Angle on Raw, or Goldberg on Smackdown. It's this simple - if VinnieMac doesn't want Raw to suck so bad, he may just have to realize that the Smackdown "Fab Four" is the answer. And if he wants to bring more casual viewers to Smackdown, then showcasing Goldberg or HHH may just be what it needs. I'm as tired of HHH as anyone else, but you have to realize that the casual fan may not feel the same way.

 

The biggest thing I don't like is how the brand split is watering down most of the PPV's - As good as Vengeance was, it was nothing more than a glorified episode of Smackdown with a different set. And Bad Blood and Unforgiven were just dreadful. The only contenders Brock has on SD! right now are Undertaker, Angle, and possibly Big Show. I mean, they're doing Brock/UT at No Mercy again this year, when it's already been done TWICE last year. I though the brand extension was supposed to elevate new talent, not just give us the same old stuff we've always had.

 

Pure and simple, the brand split is completely limiting the number of feuds and potential matchups by saying "OK, you guys can only work with THESE people over here" and vice versa. Jericho and RVD could be having great matches with Eddie Guererro and Benoit, the tag team division could heat back up, and so forth.

 

So, yes. The brand split should be ended. It's causing more harm than good, and unless they shake up the rosters, then just imagine. What are we gonna be seeing one year from now. If the rosters don't change, or the shows aren't merged back together, then the answer is simple . . . we'll be seeing Brock/UT at No Mercy 2004, and HHH/Goldberg STILL feuding over a meaningless World title (c'mon . . the REAL WWE title lineage is on Smackdown, pure and simple)

 

Now that I've rambled incoherently, let's see how badly I get crucified