Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 ECW had Chris Benoit which made it worth something. Chris Benoit made ECW. Chris Benoit gave its hardcore image by breaking Sabu neck. Serves him right for not being at Chris Benoit's level. Chris Benoit should break the necks of all wrestlers who aren't at Chris Benoit's level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Chris Benoit should break the necks of all wrestlers who aren't at Chris Benoit's level. Even I would get tired of always seeing Benoit vs. Eddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 9, 2003 ECW had Chris Benoit which made it worth something. Chris Benoit made ECW. Chris Benoit gave its hardcore image by breaking Sabu neck. Serves him right for not being at Chris Benoit's level. Chris Benoit should break the necks of all wrestlers who aren't at Chris Benoit's level. Why, you're RIGHT!!!!!!!!! Way to go, YOU FIGURED IT OUT!!!!! Aren't you smart! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 I still blame that on Sabu more than anybody. Benoit threw him and the idiot didn't flip at all. He just went straight down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 I fucking hate people who spell WCW like wCw. Fucking moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OnlyMe Report post Posted October 9, 2003 They aRe probably just confused with tHe nWo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted October 9, 2003 The thing about ECW I found to be its greatest asset was that it seemed to have a top agenda of getting as many people over as they could. With the plan of using comedy gimmicks in the undercard to keep the jobbers over until they were moved up the card, I have to admit that ECW did a great job of keeping their workers as valuable as they did. (Granted is all based on crowd pops and not buy rates... Danny Doring is never going to make you fabulously wealthy). The very idea that ECW could take no talents like The Sandman and New Jack and make them what they did is astounding to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Problem was the big two swooped up the talent...Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Steve Austin, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Rey Mysterio, and others were in ECW before singing to wCw or WWF, the "big two" caught on and were working hard to make sure ECW stayed down. Because I'm sure if all of these guys stayed in ECW, they would've made as much money and done as many great things as they've done in the EEEEVIL "big two". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Didn't Eddie G. wrestle representing WCW against Otani at a Starrcade way before the existance of ECW ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 That match took place at Starrcade '95 (December), after Eddie's stint in ECW, which started in 1994. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Thanks Dames. I always thought that was in the early 90s, during the days when Eddie looked something like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Gotta disagree big-time here. Nothing Corino did impressed me. He is the definition of mediocrity. He's X-Pac, without the potential to be carried to a legit good match. Tajiri did carry Steve Corino to a DAMNED impressive match but Ill be honest and say that is the ONLY really good match I've seen him in. Although he has been in some decent enough matches with Jerry Lynn and, more recently, Homicide. Tony might be decent, but he made his name with insane stunts and that, combined with his injuries, would make me REAL hesitant to touch him. I could see Jeff Hardy V 1.0 with him. The Tony Mamaluke that was in ECW isn't even a TOUCH on the Tony Mamaluke that has been seen on the indies recently. He is now VERY mat based. ECW just didn't have nearly the talent that they told their fans they had. Their best match EVER on PPV didn't even INVOLVE ECW talent. I'll definately concede that. MPro goodness on their first PPV ! It was much better than the abortions that we would see on later PPVs. But we did see some pretty good matches on later PPVs, which included a VERY impressive Tajiri v Super Crazy from Guilty as Charged 99 and then Rob Van Dam v Jerry Lynn FINALLY produced a REALLY good match on the Hardcore Heaven 2000. ECW's heyday was pre-97 though, and they were never going to reach that level again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 yeah, lord knows 5,000 is a "tiny" number... When you're bleeding money, as ECW was, 5,000 is nothing special. The WWF KEPT ECW AFLOAT --- FOR YEARS. Obviously, their product couldn't keep them in business for any length of time. yeah, Mcmahon has the Pinkertons on speed-dial... Ah, so you don't know that Hogan ratted out Ventura for trying to start a union, thus killing it? ok, you made that joke twice...we GET IT... Do you have any idea how often we've heard these same asinine claims from ECW mutants? And fans have become bigger jerks, honestly. BOY, i'll say! Sorry, wasn't aware that I was one of the ones trying to play "obnoxious smark" at house shows, or chanting "You Fucked Up" when something in a match goes awry. My mistake. You're worse than bitching. You're making an ass of yourself. yeah, hello, Pot? this is the Kettle...i just called to say that your black. Oh God, quoting "Friends"?!?!? I feel for you. -=Mike TURD ALERT:PART DEUX!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 9, 2003 The thing about ECW I found to be its greatest asset was that it seemed to have a top agenda of getting as many people over as they could. With the plan of using comedy gimmicks in the undercard to keep the jobbers over until they were moved up the card, I have to admit that ECW did a great job of keeping their workers as valuable as they did. (Granted is all based on crowd pops and not buy rates... Danny Doring is never going to make you fabulously wealthy). The very idea that ECW could take no talents like The Sandman and New Jack and make them what they did is astounding to me. At the risk of being offensive, what the heck did ECW make Sandman and New Jack? Talentless hacks who couldn't draw? Did they REALLY need the help? ECW got as many people over as possible because the top guys would leave at the soonest possible moment for somewhere else. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Was it just me, or did every ECW fan see Taz as one of the best wrestlers in the world ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 The thing about ECW I found to be its greatest asset was that it seemed to have a top agenda of getting as many people over as they could. With the plan of using comedy gimmicks in the undercard to keep the jobbers over until they were moved up the card, I have to admit that ECW did a great job of keeping their workers as valuable as they did. (Granted is all based on crowd pops and not buy rates... Danny Doring is never going to make you fabulously wealthy). The very idea that ECW could take no talents like The Sandman and New Jack and make them what they did is astounding to me. At the risk of being offensive, what the heck did ECW make Sandman and New Jack? Talentless hacks who couldn't draw? Did they REALLY need the help? ECW got as many people over as possible because the top guys would leave at the soonest possible moment for somewhere else. -=Mike You hate ECW, we get the point already. But come on...have you ever WATCHED ECW? If you have, or plan to do so again, turn your god damn volume up when Sandman or New Jack come out, and tell me they weren't over. And tell me that Heyman didn't turn them from a surfer guy and an overly racist SMW guy into someone people gave a damn about. I'm sure you will tell me that...or rather, you'll come back with the 'neither of them drew a dime'. ROH doesn't draw too much money in...none of the indies do really. You're using lack of money as a reason for ECW sucking. So, by all rights, any indie promotion that puts on enjoyable matches but doesn't have millions of dollars sucks. And as far as the 'leaving as soon as possible' arguement...again, does ROH suck just because Paul London and Spanky jumped to the WWE at the first opportunity? No. Did RVD or Tommy Dreamer leave the company at the first opportunity? No. Most people left for the money...like I said, so have Paul London, Spanky...Nunzio, Jimmy Yang, Alexis Laree...does that make ROH, NWA:TNA or any of the other companies they and others work for suck as a result? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 People left for one reason. Money. Not because the product sucked ( even though it DID towards the end ). Sandman and New Jack were piss poor though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 I don't get this "The product sucked near the end" - there were plenty of good matches in 2000, some better than the "hey-day" of ECW (which tends to get exaggerated). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 10, 2003 I don't get this "The product sucked near the end" - there were plenty of good matches in 2000, some better than the "hey-day" of ECW (which tends to get exaggerated). FBI v Mikey & Tajiri. Any others? ECW in 2000 had so many freakin' bad matches and horrid PPV's. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 The storylilnes were so much better in the "heyday" as well. The bad wrestling was much more forgivable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 10, 2003 You hate ECW, we get the point already. But come on...have you ever WATCHED ECW? Ah, THIS again?!?!? Nobody could have possibly watched ECW and not liked it, huh? I've seen a lot of ECW. And not much of it was good. Some was, so I'd stick with it (much like WCW up until the brutal end), but by and large, it was unmitigated crap. Tajiri & Mikey v FBI was excellent in 2000. I can't think of much anything else that was too good. If you have, or plan to do so again, turn your god damn volume up when Sandman or New Jack come out, and tell me they weren't over. They can be over all day long. They are talentless workers who couldn't put a single BUTT in the seats. And Jerome Young is just a thoroughly useless waste of blood and skin. I'd say they are like Hacksaw Duggan --- except that Duggan DID draw fans all over the place in Mid-South/UWF. And tell me that Heyman didn't turn them from a surfer guy and an overly racist SMW guy into someone people gave a damn about. How exactly was Jack's gimmick any different? Heyman took a guy Cornette GAVE A GIMMICK TO (and Corny has some bad gimmicks, let's be real honest here) and just continued it. Of course, sad thing is that as bad as Corny's gimmicks are, I'd give him free reign over my company LONG before I'd give it to Heyman, simply because my guys won't be crippled at a young age (though, in the end, I'd give the book to Raven, all things being equal). I'm sure you will tell me that...or rather, you'll come back with the 'neither of them drew a dime'. You got part 2 correct. In droves. They were over amongst the ECW mutants, but so were hacks like Balls Mahoney and Axl Rotten, so their taste is iffy. Remember, SID got a HUGE pop in ECW. SID --- so you can't possibly claim that ECW mutants were "smarkish". They were the biggest marks on the planet. ROH doesn't draw too much money in...none of the indies do really. You're using lack of money as a reason for ECW sucking. No, I'm saying the crap matches made ECW suck. That and their obnoxious fanbase who actually believed that Shane Douglas was a great worker at any point in his life --- or the same jackasses who when a guy would nearly kill himself for their perverse pleasure, would chant "ECW! ECW!". Jesus, if I was a worker, I'd have just done headlocks ad nauseum since obviously MY work wouldn't have meant a thing to the "fans." Them not making money is used to demonstrate that fans OBVIOUSLY didn't love the product as THEY CHOSE TO NOT WATCH IT, much as ECW fans wish to believe otherwise. Hint --- when you can notice THE SAME GUYS in the audience at ECW events, that's a BAD thing. You didn't hear of WWF or WCW having "fans" who "smarks" recognized, did you? No "Sign Guy" or "Hawaiian Shirt Guy" in a major promotion. So, by all rights, any indie promotion that puts on enjoyable matches but doesn't have millions of dollars sucks. ECW missed that whole "enjoyable matches" piece of the overall equation. Your desperate attempts to defend ECW is almost laudable. I liked SMW and they didn't make money (Thrillseekers v Heavenly Bodies blows anything ECW did out of the water). I liked UWF (you know, that promotion that was "extreme" WAY before it was cool, yet ALSO had good matches and compelling storylines) and they were hardly major money-makers when I first got introduced to them. And as far as the 'leaving as soon as possible' arguement...again, does ROH suck just because Paul London and Spanky jumped to the WWE at the first opportunity? No, but nobody claims that ROH is "family" and that whomever the heck books them (is it Feinstein?) is like a "father figure". You want to mention that line of crap, expect to get it handed back to you. Did RVD or Tommy Dreamer leave the company at the first opportunity? No. Dreamer had an opportunity to leave? He wasn't that desired, hate to break it to you, and didn't he own part of ECW? Most people left for the money...like I said, so have Paul London, Spanky...Nunzio, Jimmy Yang, Alexis Laree...does that make ROH, NWA:TNA or any of the other companies they and others work for suck as a result? No. But NWA:TNA's low match quality makes them suck. I can live without big money --- I have a harder time forgiving horrid matches. And, since I see this coming, you won't find much praise for WWE out of me. In fact, their recent Smackdowns have been quite bad. I don't watch ROH as I won't go out of my way to do so --- thus, I've NEVER ONCE MENTIONED ROH. You are the one who carps on that over and over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 10, 2003 Was it just me, or did every ECW fan see Taz as one of the best wrestlers in the world ! Taz and Douglas were the most overblown guys on the ECW roster. That and that really crappy Al Snow "Head" gimmick. -=Mike ...Oh, and Nova inventing every move in the history of the business got a little old Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 10, 2003 People left for one reason. Money. Not because the product sucked ( even though it DID towards the end ). Sandman and New Jack were piss poor though. How often do guys go to other companies because the "quality" of their company's product is bad? Do you think a single ex-WWF'er in TNA would rather be in TNA? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 Tanaka vs. Ballz Hardcore Heaven Tajiri vs. Corino HH Tajiri vs. Psicosis Hardcore TV Corino/Credible/Lynn TNN Sept 9th FBI vs. Roadkill/Doring Sept 9th Kid Kash vs. Vic Grimes (horribly short, but mind-blowing at the time) ECW on TNN Mikey Whipwreck vs. Tony Mamaluke (ditto) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 People left for one reason. Money. Not because the product sucked ( even though it DID towards the end ). Sandman and New Jack were piss poor though. How often do guys go to other companies because the "quality" of their company's product is bad? Do you think a single ex-WWF'er in TNA would rather be in TNA? -=Mike I'd venture to say Jeff Jarrett, D-Lo Brown and Raven for starters, seeing as Jarrett has the book, and Raven and D-Lo got jobbed out of existance under Vince. Add to that list Jerry Lynn who also hates Vince for the way he was totally patheticly booked. A.J Styles is kind of ex-WWE, who actually turned WWE down on a contract offer. Plus any other exWWF/Eers who know about the backstage politics and arguements, and don't think they'd stand a chance of being anything worthwhile in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 Was it just me, or did every ECW fan see Taz as one of the best wrestlers in the world ! Taz and Douglas were the most overblown guys on the ECW roster. That and that really crappy Al Snow "Head" gimmick. -=Mike ...Oh, and Nova inventing every move in the history of the business got a little old Taz was like Goldberg...he was pushed to be a legitimate bad ass, and people were made to believe it. Hey...didn't Heyman book Taz to be a star...nah, probably wasn't. Probably all the reactions from those damn mark ECW fans. If the Head gimmick was so 'crappy', how the hell did it get so over. Aren't crappy gimmicks supposed to be bad gimmicks that are an embarrassment to people watching? I dunno about you(you probably would be embarrassed, because it's ECW), but I'm not embarrassed when I see an ECW event with Al Snow and Head on. Because it's mindless comedy. Because it's off the wall. Because the fans were 100% behind it. Watch Living Dangerously 98 and tell me this 'crappy' gimmick didn't get over. Exactly. Nothing that could bring that sort and amount of widespread crowd support could be crap. You're getting desperate now with Nova. He made moves up. He was known as an innovator, and once it got over, he set about 'creating' new moves. God forbid he should do something different and innovate moves rather than use other people's moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 You hate ECW, we get the point already. But come on...have you ever WATCHED ECW? Ah, THIS again?!?!? Nobody could have possibly watched ECW and not liked it, huh? I've seen a lot of ECW. And not much of it was good. Some was, so I'd stick with it (much like WCW up until the brutal end), but by and large, it was unmitigated crap. Tajiri & Mikey v FBI was excellent in 2000. I can't think of much anything else that was too good. If you have, or plan to do so again, turn your god damn volume up when Sandman or New Jack come out, and tell me they weren't over. They can be over all day long. They are talentless workers who couldn't put a single BUTT in the seats. And Jerome Young is just a thoroughly useless waste of blood and skin. I'd say they are like Hacksaw Duggan --- except that Duggan DID draw fans all over the place in Mid-South/UWF. And tell me that Heyman didn't turn them from a surfer guy and an overly racist SMW guy into someone people gave a damn about. How exactly was Jack's gimmick any different? Heyman took a guy Cornette GAVE A GIMMICK TO (and Corny has some bad gimmicks, let's be real honest here) and just continued it. Of course, sad thing is that as bad as Corny's gimmicks are, I'd give him free reign over my company LONG before I'd give it to Heyman, simply because my guys won't be crippled at a young age (though, in the end, I'd give the book to Raven, all things being equal). I'm sure you will tell me that...or rather, you'll come back with the 'neither of them drew a dime'. You got part 2 correct. In droves. They were over amongst the ECW mutants, but so were hacks like Balls Mahoney and Axl Rotten, so their taste is iffy. Remember, SID got a HUGE pop in ECW. SID --- so you can't possibly claim that ECW mutants were "smarkish". They were the biggest marks on the planet. ROH doesn't draw too much money in...none of the indies do really. You're using lack of money as a reason for ECW sucking. No, I'm saying the crap matches made ECW suck. That and their obnoxious fanbase who actually believed that Shane Douglas was a great worker at any point in his life --- or the same jackasses who when a guy would nearly kill himself for their perverse pleasure, would chant "ECW! ECW!". Jesus, if I was a worker, I'd have just done headlocks ad nauseum since obviously MY work wouldn't have meant a thing to the "fans." Them not making money is used to demonstrate that fans OBVIOUSLY didn't love the product as THEY CHOSE TO NOT WATCH IT, much as ECW fans wish to believe otherwise. Hint --- when you can notice THE SAME GUYS in the audience at ECW events, that's a BAD thing. You didn't hear of WWF or WCW having "fans" who "smarks" recognized, did you? No "Sign Guy" or "Hawaiian Shirt Guy" in a major promotion. So, by all rights, any indie promotion that puts on enjoyable matches but doesn't have millions of dollars sucks. ECW missed that whole "enjoyable matches" piece of the overall equation. Your desperate attempts to defend ECW is almost laudable. I liked SMW and they didn't make money (Thrillseekers v Heavenly Bodies blows anything ECW did out of the water). I liked UWF (you know, that promotion that was "extreme" WAY before it was cool, yet ALSO had good matches and compelling storylines) and they were hardly major money-makers when I first got introduced to them. And as far as the 'leaving as soon as possible' arguement...again, does ROH suck just because Paul London and Spanky jumped to the WWE at the first opportunity? No, but nobody claims that ROH is "family" and that whomever the heck books them (is it Feinstein?) is like a "father figure". You want to mention that line of crap, expect to get it handed back to you. Did RVD or Tommy Dreamer leave the company at the first opportunity? No. Dreamer had an opportunity to leave? He wasn't that desired, hate to break it to you, and didn't he own part of ECW? Most people left for the money...like I said, so have Paul London, Spanky...Nunzio, Jimmy Yang, Alexis Laree...does that make ROH, NWA:TNA or any of the other companies they and others work for suck as a result? No. But NWA:TNA's low match quality makes them suck. I can live without big money --- I have a harder time forgiving horrid matches. And, since I see this coming, you won't find much praise for WWE out of me. In fact, their recent Smackdowns have been quite bad. I don't watch ROH as I won't go out of my way to do so --- thus, I've NEVER ONCE MENTIONED ROH. You are the one who carps on that over and over. 1) I asked because you'd obviously not paid attention to the crowd pops that Sandman and New Jack got. See RRR for the 2000 arguement. 2) So when Sandman was World Champ during 95, ECW didn't suddenly become a bigger force than just another indie fed. Sure, it wasn't just Sandman, but he was Champ and people didn't seem to complain. When he returned from WCW, people didn't get excited about his return? And I agree on New Jack...to a point. 3) I would respond, but the comment on Heyman just brings me to the conclusion you're an anti-ECW guy, and nothing'll sway you. But how many 'young kids' were crippled in ECW might I ask you. Give me a list would you. And no, Sabu doesn't count, he was hardly 'young' when smark darling Benoit crippled him. 4) So if you like Sid, you're a mark? Good god. ECW fans enjoyed the product and tried to help it become big time, and they're marks for it. So they MUST hate the people WE hate, or else they're marks. They must CONFORM to YOUR standards, or they're the bad guys...the people in the wrong. Riiight. I could go on all day on how ECW fans weren't marks, but it'd just fall on deaf ears with you. 5)Explain the difference between ECW chants, and "ROH" chants, "CZW" chants, "TNA" chants, "Holy Shit" chants... " Jesus, if I was a worker, I'd have just done headlocks ad nauseum since obviously MY work wouldn't have meant a thing to the "fans." " Ok, now I've totally stopped taking you seriously. If you'd done that, you'd get booed off in any company in the world dumbass. Go ahead, and get yourself in the business, and try it. Lets see how far ya get. Exactly, you wouldn't. "Sign Guy" was a character dumbass. Sign Guy Dudley remember. Don't you mean "Hat Guy", who was a plant wasn't he? The amount of times that guy got into scraps and spats with heels, he must have been. 6)I've seen plenty of enjoyable ECW matches. Maybe your idea of a good wrestling promotion is different to mine. In fact, I know it is, because you''re going out of your way to talk down ECW at every opportunity against every arguement. 7, 8, 9) Man this is getting pointless...it's like talking to some sort of a wall. A wall that shoots back with answers that avoid the questions. I must ask, what wrestling do you watch...because so far ECW is pure crap, TNA has bad matches, the WWE is bad and ROH isn't worth watching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted October 10, 2003 At the risk of being offensive, what the heck did ECW make Sandman and New Jack? Talentless hacks who couldn't draw? Did they REALLY need the help? The point is that they ARE talentless hacks but the fact that Paul managed to get them over as they were with the crowd is astounding. Anywhere else in the world (and Sandman has been in almost every other indy and WCW), those two are exposed as what they really are. But due to a little bit of packaging (especially their entrances) and effort, ECW basically made the two of them names despite a complete lack of ability. And that is my entire point. ECW simply did a good job of playing to their weak talent roster's strengths time and again and used enough smoke and mirrors to gets people like Shane Douglas, Raven, and Tajiri over enough to catch the big two's interest enough to get them all second shots. Seriously, who in ECW was criminally misused in your opinion? ECW got as many people over as possible because the top guys would leave at the soonest possible moment for somewhere else. You make it sound like though ECW should have just folded their tents as soon as Guerrero, Benoit and Malenko left the company. I would think getting as many people over as you could would be considered a good idea, although certain wrestling companies don't seem to share that vision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 11, 2003 Tanaka vs. Ballz Hardcore Heaven Tajiri vs. Corino HH Tajiri vs. Psicosis Hardcore TV Corino/Credible/Lynn TNN Sept 9th FBI vs. Roadkill/Doring Sept 9th Kid Kash vs. Vic Grimes (horribly short, but mind-blowing at the time) ECW on TNN Mikey Whipwreck vs. Tony Mamaluke (ditto) This is pointless, as it is a battle over opinion, but I'll just say that I saw 6 of those matches and not one of them was terribly impressive. Tanaka v Balls was just a garbage brawl --- and I liked Tanaka's work. Tajiri v Corino didn't do a darned thing for me. It wasn't bad, it wasn't good, it was OK. I've NEVER been impressed with anything Grimes has done in his entire career. He's a horrendously bad worker and God knows Kash is nothing to write home about. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 11, 2003 Plus any other exWWF/Eers who know about the backstage politics and arguements, and don't think they'd stand a chance of being anything worthwhile in WWE. I'd venture to say Jeff Jarrett, D-Lo Brown and Raven for starters, seeing as Jarrett has the book, and Raven and D-Lo got jobbed out of existance under Vince. And if the WWE didn't cut them, Raven and D-Lo would still be there. Heck, D-Lo was on the verge of a mini-push (remember, he had Rodney Mack's current gimmick and was starting a push when he got cut). Add to that list Jerry Lynn who also hates Vince for the way he was totally patheticly booked. A.J Styles is kind of ex-WWE, who actually turned WWE down on a contract offer Lynn was "pathetically booked" because he was CRAP in the ring. He was absolutely horrendous in the ring and not a single match of his in the WWE was worth anything. He generated no heat whatsoever. If the WWE offered Styles decent money, he'd jump. They won't offer him decent money --- no I don't have a clue why --- and thus, he stays. Plus any other exWWF/Eers who know about the backstage politics and arguements, and don't think they'd stand a chance of being anything worthwhile in WWE. Seeing as how the WWE has apparently shown little to no interest in anybody in NWA: TNA, it's moot. It's like me saying I'd never play for the Yankees because I can't stand the team. I'm not exactly in position for that to be a risk, so I can say that all day long. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites