syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 What is it with the NWA and their lame ass shit. You're trying to MAKE PEOPLE PAY FOR A SHOW by having NON-TITLE matches....riiiiiight. A tag title match next week? You contradicted yourself. For one, they never even announced the match, so title or non title, it wouldn't have mattered. And next week, they announced a title match. Happy? And Ken Shamrock, to me, was good in the ring. I didn't notice anything, but I dont go out looking to see if someone can still do moves correctly and complain about someone 36 or whatever "still wrestling". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Marlins make a hot tag to Ivan Rodriguez...look out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gatornibs Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Next week Styles vs Jarrett (Possibly Dusty as ref) Simon/Swinger vs Doring/Roadkill for titles AMW vs Mystery Opponent (Possibly Disco/David Young) Shane vs Sabin vs Daniels vs X Title (Don West is so stupid, he goes "And for the X Division Title, Daniels, vs Sabin, vs AND GET THIS FOLKS, MICHAEL SHANE" as if the title match could feature somebody else. Decent little show, made me wanna order next week's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Maybe it was a joke. I find that funny. And how was the 630? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 That actually sounds like a nice show (next week)...I think we shall see two title changes, and some good matches. How did they hype AMW's match? You think another new team may debut? Maybe Kashmere & Acid will come back. Wishful thinking. We'll get Disco Inferno jobs to Jacqueline and Madusa and uses the Stone Cold Stunner and David Young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Next week looks like it could be an awesome show ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gatornibs Report post Posted October 16, 2003 630 WAS AMAZING. I see it almost every Saturday, and it never gets old. For all you people who have never seen it, it's worth 10 bones to bust that 630 cherry of yours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I thought tonight's show was satisfying, and seeing the Cubs lose so far is making tonight a good one for me. Sojay Dutt, very nice. He was awesome. 630 was a neat thing to see. I think it would've been better if I hadn't heard its hype and tried to figure out how many turns in the air that would take, taking the surprise out of it. I thought Daniels dumped his followers already and would've brought his "brothers" in tonight, guess we'll have to wait. Russo getting his ass kicked is enjoyable. And btw, everytime I hear about the Japanese press, do they mean the press of newspapers or things like Observer or Torch and wrestling mags? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I think its newspaper press. Wrestling is a sport in Japan, not a comedy fest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 This actually looks like a good show, and it makes me want to see next week's show. I think they're going to add Raven vs. Vampiro to the card, and hell, next week's card may be more enticing than the PPV. Styles and Jarrett can do ***+ if given time, and the 3-way will likely end in Daniels winning to face Tiger Mask IV. Of course, I'm sticking to that prediction only because it would be logical. One more thing about Mantell: I haven't bought a TNA show in ages, but I think I will pick up next week's. I love Doring and Roadkill, the Styles-Jarrett match should be good, I think next week we'll see Raven get some revenge, and there will be a good X title match. Not to mention the hype for Hogan possibly being on the show next week, and you've got a hell of a show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Best show since the Super X Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Instead of arguing over stuff or saying "this one match went like this", can anybody provide a full results listing? I mean, sorry, but "Sonjay/Young vs. Fuego/Clark was MOTN" doesn't tell me about what it was like, hell, it doesn't even tell me who half the guys in the match are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I've visited a few different forums after the show and the response to it seems overwhelmingly positive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I really enjoyed it. The whole Erik Watts/Red Shirt thing sucked...but everything else was cool by me. Storyline wise I'm more than happy...and the ring work was better this week than the last several. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Sonjay break out the Sprinkler-elbow? For those of you who saw TNA, you'd know what I'm talking about if Sonjay did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Here is the recap from Dave Meltzer: by Dave Meltzer [email protected] We're looking for your thoughts on tonight's show, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match to [email protected] NWA TNA PPV report for 10/15 This was mostly a setup show for next week, as well as the introduction of the Hulk Hogan angle. Wrestling was a very distant second. Show opened with Raven having a dog collar around Jim Mitchell and choking him. Mitchell was foaming at the mouth. Eventually Slash and Vampiro saved Mitchell as Sinn was gone this week selling an injury form last week. Slash did an elbow drop off the balcony with the chain wrapped around his elbow, through a table. C.M. Punk & Julio Dinero made the save. Raven was injured so he couldn't wrestle against Slash later in the show. Vince Russo simply said he wasn't wrestling in the six-man. It was his last night anyway, so he might as well get beaten up by Jarrett as opposed to Dusty. 1. Dusty Rhodes & Chris Harris & James Storm beat Sonny Siaki & Ekmo & Joe Legend in 8:41 when Storm pinned Legend after the death sentence. Storm did an overhead belly-to-belly on Siaki. Nobody mentioned that would be worthy of a fine in the WWE. Better than the brawl last week indicated it would be. Shane Douglas is looking to establish a new group. He was staring at two headless women. It appeared the one on the right was probably used to nobody looking at her face. 2. Michael Shane pinned Christopher Daniels to retain the X title in 9:56. Even though last week Daniels said he was dumping his minions, they were still there. Crowd wasn't into it other than chanting "Fallen Angel" at Daniels, but the work was fine. Douglas was scouting these guys with a note pad. One of Daniels guys held up the belt, but Daniels ended up collided with the guy and the belt, and was pinned after a superkick. Chris Sabin ran in after the match to attack Shane. They showed the Tokyo Dome footage from Monday of Hogan beating Masahiro Chono and Jeff Jarrett's guitar shot backstage. It was exactly what you would picture. Jarrett did an interview, coming out to little reaction again, although there were chants of "Hogan" at him. He said he's learned that to be an icon in wrestling you have to be a self-serving SOB and the most self-serving of all is Hogan. Sometimes there is truth in interviews. Mike Tenay brought up Daytona Beach (Bash at the Beach 2000 angle) and Jarrett said he never wanted it brought up. Vince Russo came out and speared Jarrett out of the ring. Then he speared him over the guard rail. This was so funny in its stupidity. But Jarrett recovered and destroyed Russo with a million weak chair shots to the back. I've never seen someone so protected as they were selling a vicious beating. Jarrett tied Russo to a fence and kept hitting his back with chair shots. End result was Russo going out in an ambulance. 3. Kevin Northcutt pinned Erik Watts in 4:28 after hitting him with handcuffs. Watts had Rick Santel & Chris Vaughn in his corner. Not much of a match, more due to Watts than Northcutt. Northcutt handcuffed Watts after the match while Ryan Wilson took care of all the impotent black shirted security guys. Finally, Don Harris came out with a black shirt and cleaned house. You really can't visualize how big Wilson is until you see him tower over Don Harris. Goldylocks, with a new hairstyle and new chest showed up, leaving with Watts. 4. Sonjay Dutt & Eric Young beat El Fuego & Jerrel Clark in 7:02. This was a collection of really good acrobatic moves. Crowd wasn't into the match, but they really wouldn't have known any of the four, but popped for a lot of the moves. Dutt is really impressive. Only comedy was Jeremy Borash announcing Fuego as being from Mexico City and then Mike Tenay coming back with him training at the famed Sully's gym with those famed luchadores Edge & Christian. Young put Fuego and Clark both on his shoulders at the same time and did a death valley driver, which really woke the crowd up. They did the repeated dive spots capped off by Dutt's corkscrew plancha. Clark showed his 630, which is a 450 with another rotation into a senton. Finish was Dutt pinning Fuego with the Hindu press, which is like a sky twister. 5. Danny Doring & Roadkill beat Simon Diamond & Johnny Swinger in a non-title match in 6:12. Doring worked most of the way and didn't look good. Roadkill's spots got over as a fat high flying guy. Crowd was into this more because AMW were watching and cheer leading for Doring & Roadkill. AMW stopped Glenn Gilberti from interfering and Doring pinned Swinger with a front rolling cradle. 6. Abyss pinned Kid Kash in 5:37 with a side slam, called the black hole slam. Kash is a really good heel, but he got far too much offense in. After the match, Kash threw powder at Abyss and went back to work on him, including a low blow until Abyss put Kash up in the torture rack and dropped down. Gilberti did an interview saying Doring & Roadkill put ECW out of business and they'd better stop them before they put this place out. 7. Vampiro & Slash beat C.M. Punk & Julio Dinero in 4:18 when Vampiro blew something in Dinero's eyes and gave him a Michinoku driver. Punk was bloodied up from the beginning. This was all a set up for Raven to come out and clean house. Jimmy Hart did a phone-in interview promising Hogan would be coming. Jarrett came out saying he'd be ready. Show ended about 8 minutes early with Jarrett and Styles doing a pull-apart. Next week: Styles vs. Jarrett for NWA title Diamond & Swinger vs. Doring & Roadkill for tag titles AMW vs. Gilberti's mystery team Shane vs. Sabin vs. Daniels for the X title Raven vs. Slash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dvkorn Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I didn't see the show tonight but is it just me or when TNA have announced a pretty ordinary line up for a show it turns out to be quite good and when they announce a good line up it ends up being sub par.... Of course it isn't always the case but it seems to happen quite a bit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest spags56 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Well next weeks looks very solid indeed, definately ordering it. Hope your not correct with your conclusion there Mick.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Decadent Slacker Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I really enjoed the show. As BPS said, everything save the Watts/Security stuff was good. Kash/Abyss was lightyears better than i figured. Abyss can actually work, which i figured, but i didn't see much in the tag matches. & Kash rules. X Title was good, Shane's best match in TNA that i've seen (missed the Ultimate X). Next week should be awesome, if somewhat overbooked. Dutt was great. It was basically him & Clark carrying the match, but it was really good. Jarrett is either a horrible face or a mediocre tweener. Pity poor AJ, getting barely 2 minutes of airtime this week & dropping the belt next week. Best show i've seen in awhile, considering i missed the X Cup. I'll just say it was better than SummerSlam then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Thought it was boring myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 Does anyone have a clip of the 630? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2003 I really enjoyed Kash vs. Abyss too. Meltzer said that Kash got too much offense for the size difference...but I disagree. It's not like Kash ever stood toe to toe and just beat on him...he was running all over the place tryting to find an advantage...and then after using a chair several times he still was pinned clean when Abyss finally caught him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites