Guest ToddRoyal Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Also Cade is related to HBK somehow! Cade isn't "related" to HBK. HBK trained him. Michael Shane is the only HBK trainee that's actually related to Shawn.
notJames Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Wer'e back to the "Push New People....No, Not Them" Argument Fuck sake. Correction: it's the "Push talented people" argument, and those two ham 'n' eggers aren't even close. And I'd love to hear how those two vanilla extracts measure up to, let alone surpass, Orton and Batista. While the latter don't exactly light up my dance card, they at least look the part of wrestlers. JinCade look like dime-a-dozen frat boys without a party to go to. Bottom line: RAW is a lost cause. The majority of the new blood is worth shit, and the only push they deserve is off a cliff. Spike dropkick my ass. And no, that wasn't a request.
Papacita Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 JinCade look like dime-a-dozen frat boys without a party to go to. If I knew that it wouldn't lead to a bunch of "entertaining" initiation/hazing skits, I'd suggest that they be teamed up with Nowinski as a part of some midcard fraternity. Have them wheel a keg to the ring for all their matches...or something. I dunno. As for the question, I don't mind Jindrak and Cade. As long as they're pushed in moderation, I have no complaint. They do need to establish some sort of personality though.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 JinCade look like dime-a-dozen frat boys without a party to go to. If I knew that it wouldn't lead to a bunch of "entertaining" initiation/hazing skits, I'd suggest that they be teamed up with Nowinski as a part of some midcard fraternity. Have them wheel a keg to the ring for all their matches...or something. I dunno. Best. Gimmick. Ever
Ripper Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Correction: it's the "Push talented people" argument, and those two ham 'n' eggers aren't even close. You RACIST~? Maybe Maven should join up with Hurricane. He could be Huffman. He..huffs...man...
Guest JacK Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Yes. They SHOULD bring in Mike Sanders, and put him on the mike, if only because TNA stopped, so I can watch and listen to the absolute HILARITY that ensues. His stuff about the 'Hard 10' was friggin funny, and that whole 'Hey' thing is GOLD. Also, what is the Spike Dropkick thingy, because I haven't seen it yet. It sounds, well, interesting, I'll give it that. And that whole frat-thing would be GOLD, and when they decide to break it up with Nowinski continuesly bragging about how Harvard is better than wherever the other guys went.
Kaertos Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 You have to admit though that this version of "Garrison Cade" is by far less goofy than the HWA version of "Lance Cade" where he wore wrestling trunks, leather chaps, a cowboy hat and wrestling boots that looked like cowboy boots to the ring. I remember the first night I saw him wear the chaps, they were so new they turned his legs black.
DCMaximo Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 The problem with their finisher is that Cade needs to actually slam the opponent down following the dropkick. Instead, it looks like Jindrak uses a really high dropkick and Cade gently places them onto the canvas. On the subject of Cade's name, at least Garrison is better than the one time on Heat, while they were in the process of changing his name, where he was simply known as "Cade". That sucked.
Guest Goodear Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Quite simply WWE is dropping the ball by taking two guys (three if you take Orlando Jordon) and just sort of sticking them out on television with nothing to do and no reason to get behind them. The stealing the bounty angle would have been great if they hyadn't cut the angle off at the knees. Just to have those guys wandering around with Flair and Orton trying to get the money back would have been great especially with Jyndrak and Cade obviously spending Triple H's cash. "Give us the money Cade!" "What you think we'd be dumb enough to just keep $100,000 just lying around? But how about this shirt? Who knew you could pay $1,000 for a shirt?"
Guest Choken One Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Cade needs to study some Windham tapes...
Guest Goodear Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Everyone should watch Windham tapes... <--- HUGE Barry Backer
Guest Fook Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 I just find Jindrak and Cade too damn vanilla. I can't get behind them because they have no characteristics to get behind, good or bad. As for the spike dropkick, quite frankly, while it sucks the balls of a dead mule, not all hope is lost. They could easily modify it and have Jindrak do a missle dropkick rather than a normal one and have Cade actually slam the victim down in a powerbomb instead of just falling with him like he does now.
Guest Choken One Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Everyone should watch Windham tapes... <--- HUGE Barry Backer Yes of course but Cade if he grew his out hair would be DEAD ON barry physically.
notJames Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Correction: it's the "Push talented people" argument, and those two ham 'n' eggers aren't even close. You RACIST~? I don't even know where to start with that assertion... If you're referring to the "ham 'n' eggers" line, that's an old Bobby Heenan line. It's an abbreviation of "ham-and-eggers" and it means "average Joes". Besides, how would dropping the N-bomb apply to JinCade?
Ripper Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Correction: it's the "Push talented people" argument, and those two ham 'n' eggers aren't even close. You RACIST~? I don't even know where to start with that assertion... If you're referring to the "ham 'n' eggers" line, that's an old Bobby Heenan line. It's an abbreviation of "ham-and-eggers" and it means "average Joes". Besides, how would dropping the N-bomb apply to JinCade? You know, I have a year long running joke and people still take it serious EVERYTIME I use it. If we can't laugh at words that slightly resemble racist word if you say it really really fast and ignore all the words around it because it doesn't even fit in the context of the statement that was made and obviously wanst a racist comment, what can we laugh at? WHAT I ASK YOU, WHAT?
buffybeast Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Did they ever explain how HHH got the 100k back from JinCade?
Guest Choken One Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 He attacked them with a 2 X 4 as they were leaving... if you remember JinCade were carless as they mentioned to Orton so that's why they never just drove off... So I'm betting they each called a cab and HHH just so happened to show up at the right time and caught them with the breifcase and punked them out
Boner Kawanger Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 I think the elevated double team dropkick licks balls. It's shit. It's not a credible finisher in my eyes. I agree on that. They should have Jindrak dropkick the person into a Cade Powerbomb or something. They HAVE done that one. It was on Heat last month, I was there live. It was the only thing that got a reaction in their match.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Cade needs to study some Windham tapes... I'm assuming that he does already because in a wwe.com interview HBK was shilling Cade as the next Windham, because they have a ressemblance and because he can do a bulldog. "The next __________" monickers =
Guest JumpinJackFlash Posted October 23, 2003 Report Posted October 23, 2003 I like Jindrak and Cade. They are pretty good, and they work well together. But if only they had a gimmick...... Have Rico as their manager and we'll be going back to 2002! "You loook soooooo good to me!"
notJames Posted October 23, 2003 Report Posted October 23, 2003 Correction: it's the "Push talented people" argument, and those two ham 'n' eggers aren't even close. You RACIST~? I don't even know where to start with that assertion... If you're referring to the "ham 'n' eggers" line, that's an old Bobby Heenan line. It's an abbreviation of "ham-and-eggers" and it means "average Joes". Besides, how would dropping the N-bomb apply to JinCade? You know, I have a year long running joke and people still take it serious EVERYTIME I use it. If we can't laugh at words that slightly resemble racist word if you say it really really fast and ignore all the words around it because it doesn't even fit in the context of the statement that was made and obviously wanst a racist comment, what can we laugh at? WHAT I ASK YOU, WHAT? My bad. The Internet is mightily limited in conveying the kind of sarcasm that can only come verbally. Plus, you have a history of posting quite passionately and fervently, so I mistook the intent of your message. I see the joke for what it is now. But for the record, I still hate JinCade. I also can't stand Maven and Orlando Jones. See, I'm an equal opportunity misanthrope.
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