Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 I was watching Channel V (Australia's equivelant of MTV) today and they just happend to show the new clip from Britney Spears, featuring Madonna, entitled 'Me Against The Music'. While I've never had the balls to call what Britney spits out 'music', I will admit to falling for her odd catchy tune. Her new single, however, is quite possibly the worst song I've ever heard in my life. Complete, mindless, emotionless drivel. What worries me is that this shit is going to sell millions to teenage girls who are going to think that adulthood is comprised of two things - sex and dancing - which seems to be the only things Brit can sing about. I realise that the pop scene is usually trashy and commercial, but this is past the point of repulsive. The single even borrows a line from an Oasis song, a band who made a career writing songs using the material of their heroes. I fear the future of the human race. That is all. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 I fear the future of the human race. That is all. UYI I've felt that way since GNR disappeared and 2Pac died. Since then we've had Creed, LFO, Nelly, Nickelback, Puddle Of Mudd, More P Diddy then we ever needed, Backstreet Boys, good lord, must I continue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Plushy Al Logan Report post Posted November 18, 2003 BIg Fat Elvis needs to return and perform to show that performers don't suck. If that doesent work, Frank Sinatra should show up and beat the crap out of everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 18, 2003 If that doesent work, Frank Sinatra should show up and beat the crap out of everyone. Sinatra doesn't get his hands dirty...he's the chairman of the board, not a common thug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 18, 2003 I blame disco for mainstream music sucking. Before disco, mainstream music was fine. After disco, mainstream music has mainly been crap. hair metal, boy bands and pop princesses oh my Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 The single even borrows a line from an Oasis song, a band who made a career writing songs using the material of their heroes. Damn. What Oasis song did they rip off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 I blame Nirvana. Spoiled rich kids using their parents credit cards to buy Nirvana CDs and flannel shirts so they could join the "look at me, I hate you because I'm so depressed" movement, all while the economy was at a strong point. The world just couldn't be good after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 18, 2003 Yeah...because posers surely never existed before Nirvana. The bad thing grunge brought to music were all the light grunge bands that came near the end. Bands like goo goo dolls and all the bands that sounded just like them. Light Grunge led to stuff like Creed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 The degeneration of modern music began when it became to completely disregard itself... music should be about the music...not all the other pretentious bullshit... I am very much an audiophile and listen to things that sound pleasant to my ear... alot of shit nowadays just doesn't fit in that category... I don't get along with people that say they listen to music "because they can't dance to it" ...fuck that. I am into Phish...but I don't do drugs...and I hate people that ask me why I like it even though I'm not high... it's because they're GOOD, moron... if you have to be in an alternate state of mind and can not just sit down and relax and put headphones on...and ENJOY it...you shouldn't have the priveledge to hear it... that is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted November 18, 2003 The degeneration of modern music began when ... We all got old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 What worries me is that this shit is going to sell millions to teenage girls who are going to think that adulthood is comprised of two things - sex and dancing Is that really such a bad thing? The new Britney single is atrocious. I watched the video and was utterly amazed by the amount of suck that came from my television. But, I'm not the one buying the CD, so my opinion means nothing. But hell, everyone and their mother loves Britney Spears. My ex-girlfriend...a hardcore punk...ADORES Britney Spears for some reason. She made me buy her "Crossroads" for Christmas. Then she made me watch it. There's something about her that drive the kids mad. As far as the degeneration of modern music goes, I'm going to blame Linkin Park and Good Charlotte...because EVERYTHING is their fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 Music is ok. The mainstream goes in cycles, perhaps we don't realize it cause most of aren't old enough to have been through a few of them. I'm not either, but that's what my dad told me. It roughly goes like this: 1. Something new 2. Rip offs of the something new (not all bad, necesarily) 3. Bubblegum pop 4. Buncha crap 5. Something else new Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 18, 2003 We are on Step 4...so everything is looking up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 We are on Step 4...so everything is looking up Something new isn't always good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Memphis Report post Posted November 18, 2003 The single even borrows a line from an Oasis song, a band who made a career writing songs using the material of their heroes. Damn. What Oasis song did they rip off? 'D'You Know What I Mean?' 'All my people right here, right now, d'you know what I mean?' Britters chorus rips off the beginning of the line. It sounds as though it should be a song released around 1990 or so, it's THAT bad. M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2003 So she says "all my people right here," or that whole line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 1. Something new 2. Rip offs of the something new (not all bad, necesarily) 3. Bubblegum pop 4. Buncha crap 5. Something else new Example #1: Limp Bizkit "Behind Blue Eyes" Example #2: Kid Rock "Feel Like Makin Love" Example #3: some nobodies "Boys Of Summer" Example #4: Jay-Z "Me And My Girlfriend" Nobody can be original anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted November 19, 2003 I blame disco for mainstream music sucking. Before disco, mainstream music was fine. pretty much, but don't forget about pre-disco artists such as Barbra Streisand, The Osmonds, Partridge Family, Brady Bunch and Anne Murray Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Orlando, Florida the center of the music world of suck, it is the home of the boy band cookie cutter factory and is responsible for such acts like Creed and limpbizkit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 So she says "all my people right here," or that whole line? 'All my people' then cue generic 'get up and dance' lyrical bullshit for about 6 lines. Given, she probably didnt steal it from Noel (fuck, she probably didnt even write it), but it instantly reminded me of that song. Total and utter crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiny norman 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Well, if we all want to place the blame, we may as well say The Beatles. The Beatles did everything. Everyone since then has ripped them off either directly or indirectly. Rock 'n' roll has been taken as far as it can go, we need someone to do a Bill Haley & The Comets and just bring in some new form of music. Only then can music be good. This era is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Her new single, however, is quite possibly the worst song I've ever heard in my life. Complete, mindless, emotionless drivel. What worries me is that this shit is going to sell millions to teenage girls who are going to think that adulthood is comprised of two things - sex and dancing - which seems to be the only things Brit can sing about. It reminds me of a Justin Timberlake song, except it's devoid of any sort of emotion. Doesn't matter, though. Britney's more about the flash than substance, anyways... Example #3: some nobodies "Boys Of Summer" DJ Sammy or The Ataris? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Example #3: some nobodies "Boys Of Summer" DJ Sammy or The Ataris? Ataris.........but they are still nobodies, cause their only ounce of fame will come off of someone else's hard work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 The Ataris have been around since the early 90's and have released a shitload of good material. Then again, I'm a mark for catchy rock love songs... And their lyrics and the ones I write are in a similar style (although I began writing before ever hearing of the Ataris). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Um, mainstream music does not suck. The problem with it is this, as Gooddear said, you are too old for it. My mom thought alot of the mainstream music of the 80s and 90s suck when it was stuff like Guns and Rose, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Grangsta Rap, P-Funk Rap, Hair bands, Boy Bands, ect. ect. Some people are just too old to like the stuff greared towards younger people. Reason people said GnR sucked is because they were a hairband(true) and no different from the whitesnakes of that time. There is always good music out, it just not what you like. And the reason most of you don't like it is because you stuck to the music you grew up to, which is heavier metal, hair-bands, grundge/Alt. Rock music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Um, mainstream music does not suck. The problem with it is this, as Gooddear said, you are too old for it. My mom thought alot of the mainstream music of the 80s and 90s suck when it was stuff like Guns and Rose, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Grangsta Rap, P-Funk Rap, Hair bands, Boy Bands, ect. ect. Some people are just too old to like the stuff greared towards younger people. Reason people said GnR sucked is because they were a hairband(true) and no different from the whitesnakes of that time. There is always good music out, it just not what you like. And the reason most of you don't like it is because you stuck to the music you grew up to, which is heavier metal, hair-bands, grundge/Alt. Rock music. *hands MX copy of 'Me Against The Music'* Listen to this without cutting off any limbs and maybe I'll buy your argument. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Reason people said GnR sucked is because they were a hairband(true) and no different from the whitesnakes of that time. Good God almighty. Show me a song Whitesnake made that could even come close to touching "Estranged", "Rocket Queen", or even "Patience". There is a reason people remember who Axl Rose and Slash are.........good fuckin music. There is also a reason people remember who Whitesnake were......they had some bitch dance on a car in their video. There is absolutely NO comparison between the two bands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 4. Buncha crap Example #4: Jay-Z "Me And My Girlfriend" You, my friend, are nuts. That's one of the best singles of last year. It's got the Prince reference, for god's sake! Wonderful backing track, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingDeacon 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 I stopped listening to new music around 1996, but I hold these three truths to be self evident. 1) all things are cyclical. Once something has played out something will come along to replace it. 2) Every era in music has equal part good and bad if you average it out. 3) The generational gap is deeper than you think and at least a portion of why you don't like today's music is because it's not YOUR music. There is a phenomenal cultural gap between those 25 and those 15 these days which is suprisingly staggering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 I stopped listening to new music around 1996, but I hold these three truths to be self evident. 1) all things are cyclical. Once something has played out something will come along to replace it. 2) Every era in music has equal part good and bad if you average it out. 3) The generational gap is deeper than you think and at least a portion of why you don't like today's music is because it's not YOUR music. There is a phenomenal cultural gap between those 25 and those 15 these days which is suprisingly staggering. That was about the same time as my coming of age for hating popular music as well... and I was only 17, wasn't that the music that was supposed to speak to me? apparently not The big thing that made me realize the crock of popular music was this chain of events 1994 - Sheryl Crow first hits the spotlight. In concert/unplugged footage I see of her, she plays up to the "good girl" role. Fair enough 1995 - Alanis Morrissette hits big with her whiny man-hate-o-rama that was Jagged Little Pill. Her songs get mucho airplay on the alternative station that had been a staple in my car at the time, and that same station gradually gets weened off my radio. 1996 - Next thing I know, I see Sheryl Crow on the cover of Rolling Stone, and he don't look like no good girl anymore... plus the hit singles off her second album seemed very Morrissette-ish, hmmm... and that's when it hit me Thankfully time has moved both of them out of the mainstream, although I think I'd rather have them back than deal with the DIVA WARZ that are going on now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
