Guest Choken One Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Pink actually ya know... Looks like a rock star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Should I refer to Avil as Canadian mall music then? Take out the word "music" and we're getting somewhere... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Pink actually ya know... Looks like a rock star. So is she getting nominated for the Charlie's Angels song she did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Wow, those Michelle Branch pics are hot. I sincerely hope she wanted to do those photos, and wasn't just pressured by her label to do it in order to boos attention. It just doesn't seem like her to do it. Oh and as far as the Grammys go. Just as Shitty as I have always remembered them. Across the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 where can I get a better look at those michelle branch pics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Yeah, Voltron is about right. Punk died as soon as punk was "cool". Then it wasn't punk anymore - it was cool. I've heard some people point to the day the Clash signed with CBS records, or something... Fuck that, punks still not dead. Entire cities had punk explosions long after the Clash signed with a major label. Do you really think that the whole West Coast scene wasn't punk rock (Flipper, DKs, Black Flag, Circle Jerks,et al)? Or DC (Bad Brains, Teen Idles, GI)? Hell, The Exploited are still touring, and they're as punk as anyone. And even though Rancid is wicked radio friendly, they're still punk. And there are tons of bands in every city in America that are still full-on punk. And as someone who spent most of his formulative years as a punk, trust me, it was never cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Michelle Branch is pop Pink is just happy to be nominated? Avil is pop-punk Bonnie is out of place but acceptable Lucinda Williams is a piano player right? Bonnie Raitt is closer to rock than any of the other four. Avril is what I'd call Grrrl Pop. Basically it'd be bubblegum pop but they used guitars and drums instead of synths and drum machines... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Best Female Rock Vocal Performance (For a solo vocal performance. Singles or Tracks only.) Michelle Branch Avril Lavigne Pink Bonnie Raitt Lucinda Williams Something about this catagory is just not right. I fully agree. I see a bunch of pop-rock and pure pop artists on that list. And Lucinda Williams? I thought she was blues or something. Then again, try thinking of who should've been in that list instead... I can think of Tori Amos... and umm.... Tori Amos? Michelle Branch is pop Pink is just happy to be nominated? Avil is pop-punk Bonnie is out of place but acceptable Lucinda Williams is a piano player right? All of them do have acoustic rock songs and I do believe that is what they are nominated for. Acoustic Rock doesn't count anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Acoustic rock is good and all but when has Pink ever done that? Every song I have heard from her has been pop-rock or light hip hop. Ah well, a few years ago at the American Music Awards, the nominees for Best Rock Artist were Will Smith, Backstreet Boys, and some other non-rocker... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mesepher Report post Posted December 5, 2003 best rock instrumental is solid again this year (with except to Linkin Park, obviously) I mean, whats so bad about Vai, ABB, Jeff Beck and Robert Randoplh and the Family Band? nothing. solid list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Acoustic rock is good and all but when has Pink ever done that? Every song I have heard from her has been pop-rock or light hip hop. Ah well, a few years ago at the American Music Awards, the nominees for Best Rock Artist were Will Smith, Backstreet Boys, and some other non-rocker... Had at least 2 songs like that on her last album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 I think the rock female catagory should be expanded to groups so that Kelly Osbourne, Amy Lee, Gwynn of No Doubt, the Donnas could be nominated. And where is Sheryl Crow? When I think of pop-rock of year I do not think of the women who were nominated. When I think of Pink I think of dance songs not rock, when I think of Bonnie Raitt I do think of rock but don't recall of anything she did this year, Michelle and Avil are pop princesses, I really don't know who Lucinda is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Music is so ridiculously over catagorized now it is ridiculous. Would someone PLEASE explain to me how Michelle Branch, who plays acoustic rock, is not a rock artist. Like it or not, Avril is a rock vocalist. So is Pink(well...some of her songs. her album goes all over the place really...in a good way). Who the hell is rock if people that play ROCK riffs on traditional ROCK instruments being aren't. Since when is the level of complication in the music equated what genre it is. LL Cool J and Nelly rhyme like doctor suess, but dammitt, its still hip-hop. Christina Agularia and Ashanti are STILL R&B like it or not, and those girls are Rock vocalist. Accept it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Warren Zevon does 30 years of great music...and now he's dead so they throw a ton of nominations at him. "The Wind" is a good album but not one of his 5 best. Fuck the Grammys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 Although I am suprised they didn't throw on some old fart shit for best album...the Steely Dan kinda thing where it sold nothing and nobody even knew it existed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2003 I remember India.Arie or whatever her name was got alot of nominations last year for her big god push last year and she did not win one at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Every single fucking album/song but "Seven Nation Army" (White Stripes), "Times Like These" (Foo Fighters), and "Go With The Flow" (Queens Of The Stone Age) sucks. Yep...I fucking hate the Grammies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mesepher Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Every single fucking album/song but "Seven Nation Army" (White Stripes), "Times Like These" (Foo Fighters), and "Go With The Flow" (Queens Of The Stone Age) sucks. Yep...I fucking hate the Grammies. if you say so, metal dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 (edited) Every single fucking album/song but "Seven Nation Army" (White Stripes), "Times Like These" (Foo Fighters), and "Go With The Flow" (Queens Of The Stone Age) sucks. Yep...I fucking hate the Grammies. oh my god, i've finally found somebody who hates outkast. Edited December 6, 2003 by godthedog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 You haven't been looking very hard, then. I'm not even sure I know who that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mesepher Report post Posted December 6, 2003 You haven't been looking very hard, then. I'm not even sure I know who that is. I don't know either who ti is either I just would like to point out the ignorance of Corey for saying that Vai, Jeff Beck, the Allmans, and Robert and the Family Band suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted December 6, 2003 I agree about the people bitching about the female rock nominees. Just because it's not what you personally consider to be rock, that doesn't mean it can't be consider rock. Could the nominees be better? Well of course, after all it is the grammies, there's always room for improvement. Bonnie Raitt has been considered rock for awhile now. Michelle Branch isn't much different than Bonnie Raitt. Pink has alot of poppy dance music, but to say there's nothing rock about her is wrong. Avril, well ok I agree she's pushing it, but she's still a form of rock. Lucinda Williams is a blues artist, so guess what she's rock. Pink and Avril are the only debatable ones. I have no problem with Pink being there, but I would've perferred if someone else got Avril's spot. Also, how can you not like OutKast. Well, unless you have the silly mindset that you can only like one genre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Lucinda Williams is a blues artist, so guess what she's rock. That's strange, and somewhat nonsensical. I mean, if blues and rock were the same thing, there'd be no need for two different genre names, now would there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Wood Caulfield 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 50 Cent does not deserve to be nominated for a Grammy. Didn't Ja Rule release an album this year or last year? If so, I'm suprised he wasn't nominated, but not upset either. Of course, I'm glad Avril Lavigne got nominated, but you should not be suprised. I wish Public Enemy would get nominated for a Grammy, but Audioslave, Outkast, Avril, Black Eyed Peas and Eminem, got nominated, so I'm not totally pissed off. And I like Linkin Park, Black Eyed Peas, and Missy Elliot so I'm fine with them getting nominated also. And how could you NOT like Outkast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Music is so ridiculously over catagorized now it is ridiculous. Would someone PLEASE explain to me how Michelle Branch, who plays acoustic rock, is not a rock artist. Like it or not, Avril is a rock vocalist. So is Pink(well...some of her songs. her album goes all over the place really...in a good way). Who the hell is rock if people that play ROCK riffs on traditional ROCK instruments being aren't. Since when is the level of complication in the music equated what genre it is. LL Cool J and Nelly rhyme like doctor suess, but dammitt, its still hip-hop. Christina Agularia and Ashanti are STILL R&B like it or not, and those girls are Rock vocalist. Accept it. then why has no rock station in the history of american ever played avril lavigne or pink? pink having a few "rock"-styled songs on an album does not constitute being a rock artist. the beatles had a few country songs on the white album, does that make them country artists? ween made an entire album of country songs, does THAT make them country artists? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2003 where can I get a better look at those michelle branch pics? In my opinion, she was probably pressured into doing them due to her last two singles not doing so hot. But, whatever. And untill the magazine comes out, I I I V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2003 And how could you NOT like Outkast? Easy. I've never heard 'em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2003 you know what. That metal album category is missing one thing. Its called the lack of Iron Maiden, because Dance of Death was probably one of the most solid metal albums of 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Black Eye Peas shouldn't get a nod, but its probably off the strength of "Where's the Love" which was aight. Jay-Z's Blueprint 2 shouldn't nominated neither. Hopefully, my boys Kast wins the rap album category. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Music is so ridiculously over catagorized now it is ridiculous. Would someone PLEASE explain to me how Michelle Branch, who plays acoustic rock, is not a rock artist. Like it or not, Avril is a rock vocalist. So is Pink(well...some of her songs. her album goes all over the place really...in a good way). Who the hell is rock if people that play ROCK riffs on traditional ROCK instruments being aren't. Since when is the level of complication in the music equated what genre it is. LL Cool J and Nelly rhyme like doctor suess, but dammitt, its still hip-hop. Christina Agularia and Ashanti are STILL R&B like it or not, and those girls are Rock vocalist. Accept it. then why has no rock station in the history of american ever played avril lavigne or pink? pink having a few "rock"-styled songs on an album does not constitute being a rock artist. the beatles had a few country songs on the white album, does that make them country artists? ween made an entire album of country songs, does THAT make them country artists? The nomination was not for their entire body of music either. It was for their performances in those particular songs which were, like it or not, rock songs. And I have hear Eminem songs playing on rock stations so lets not say what radio stations play is what determines the genre of music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
