Conservative High schooler stirs up trouble

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It said top 1% of men HIS AGE

And the top 1% of marathon runners of any age. Check the numbers.

 

If the Marine Corps can't keep up with a sixty year old man, than something is clearly wrong there...

That's what old people do! They jog.

Clearly wrong? I'd say clearly right. Also, the President is not sixty. As for "old people" regularly "jogging" a 7 minute mile, that's pretty fucking impressive. I can't do that. I never could.

 

When the Texas sun is high in the sky and the thermometer hits 100 degrees, President Bush does not retire to the air-conditioned comfort of his ranch house.

 

He puts on running shorts and shoes and summons the willing for a "heat run" across the parched prairie. He was at it again on Thursday.

 

Welcome to the 100-degree club.

 

Amazingly fit at age 57, Bush leads Secret Service agents, U.S. Marines and occasionally White House staff members on a run across his 1,600-acre ranch.

 

"OK, let's go," he will say when everyone is ready, and then he takes off.

 

Those who can finish the 3-mile circuit up and down hills without stopping get a gray T-shirt marking them as a member of the president's 100-degree club.

 

Those who do not finish have to make do with the class photo.

 

Bush, who can run a mile in 7-1/2 minutes, typically leads the pack and is done long before the last stragglers cross the finish line.

 

When White House staff ran with him a couple of weeks ago, "not a single staffer could keep up with him," one participant said.

 

"There's no pressure whatsoever to try to keep up with him," this participant said. "He knows that there are people who can't keep up."

 

One of the stragglers was White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card. Although plodding, he completed the run. Some staffers were not able to finish.

 

The key to success seems to be not trying to keep up with Bush, who had a physical last Saturday that again showed his aerobic capacity and cardiovascular fitness level were in the top 1 percent of men his age.

 

During the first couple of days of Bush's August vacation, the temperature did not make it to 100 degrees. But on Tuesday just past noon, the thermometer at a Secret Service checkpoint finally pegged 100, and word spread quickly the time had come.

 

Tuesday's participants were a contingent of U.S. Marines, and a couple were unable to finish.

 

This is not for the faint-hearted. With the area in the grip of a heat wave, the Waco Tribune-Herald advised on Thursday that people reduce or eliminate strenuous activities or put them off to the coolest time of day.

 

But the heat is not stopping the hardy. There was a golf tournament at Cottonwood Creek Golf Course in nearby Waco on Wednesday afternoon when the thermometer was at 104 F.

(emphases added)

 

- Reuters story

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

It said top 1% of men HIS AGE

And the top 1% of marathon runners of any age. Check the numbers.

 

If the Marine Corps can't keep up with a sixty year old man, than something is clearly wrong there...

That's what old people do! They jog.

Clearly wrong? I'd say clearly right. Also, the President is not sixty. As for "old people" regularly "jogging" a 7 minute mile, that's pretty fucking impressive. I can't do that. I never could.

 

When the Texas sun is high in the sky and the thermometer hits 100 degrees, President Bush does not retire to the air-conditioned comfort of his ranch house.

 

He puts on running shorts and shoes and summons the willing for a "heat run" across the parched prairie. He was at it again on Thursday.

 

Welcome to the 100-degree club.

 

Amazingly fit at age 57, Bush leads Secret Service agents, U.S. Marines and occasionally White House staff members on a run across his 1,600-acre ranch.

 

"OK, let's go," he will say when everyone is ready, and then he takes off.

 

Those who can finish the 3-mile circuit up and down hills without stopping get a gray T-shirt marking them as a member of the president's 100-degree club.

 

Those who do not finish have to make do with the class photo.

 

Bush, who can run a mile in 7-1/2 minutes, typically leads the pack and is done long before the last stragglers cross the finish line.

 

When White House staff ran with him a couple of weeks ago, "not a single staffer could keep up with him," one participant said.

 

"There's no pressure whatsoever to try to keep up with him," this participant said. "He knows that there are people who can't keep up."

 

One of the stragglers was White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card. Although plodding, he completed the run. Some staffers were not able to finish.

 

The key to success seems to be not trying to keep up with Bush, who had a physical last Saturday that again showed his aerobic capacity and cardiovascular fitness level were in the top 1 percent of men his age.

 

During the first couple of days of Bush's August vacation, the temperature did not make it to 100 degrees. But on Tuesday just past noon, the thermometer at a Secret Service checkpoint finally pegged 100, and word spread quickly the time had come.

 

Tuesday's participants were a contingent of U.S. Marines, and a couple were unable to finish.

 

This is not for the faint-hearted. With the area in the grip of a heat wave, the Waco Tribune-Herald advised on Thursday that people reduce or eliminate strenuous activities or put them off to the coolest time of day.

 

But the heat is not stopping the hardy. There was a golf tournament at Cottonwood Creek Golf Course in nearby Waco on Wednesday afternoon when the thermometer was at 104 F.

(emphases added)

 

- Reuters story

I meant that something would be "clearly wrong" with the Marines if they weren't fitter than a fifty seven year old man. Like I said before, they probably are fitter than him, as long distance running is not the only characteristic used.

 

I knew his age, but talk about semantics. Christ.

 

Like I said, obviously he can outjog most old people as he has the best personal trainers in the world. I'd like to think he can outjog most old people. My point was that old people jog, as in that's what they do. I never said that they were as fast as he is or whatever.

 

You said he could jog the mile in 7 minutes, but the article says 7 1/2. OMG U LIER!~!!~!$#%#~!

 

The only memory I have of timing my run was part of some 5k run our school had. What is that, like 2 1/2 miles or something? I don't know. I ran it in 16 minutes, in the middle of November when I hadn't trained in four months and hadn't partaken in any regular exercise. Not bad though, I'd like to try his 100 degree run, as I'd like to wear that t-shirt. It would be cool to try to run up the hills and such anyway. EDIT: I only came in tenth by the way, so nine people had done better than I.

 

You're probably right, I have never heard of anyone fitter than him. All those professional athletes, they don't even come close.

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My goodness, you're insecure. Any time I say I admire a person's physique, or that such and such group of people go through pretty intensive physical training, there you are, pimping your body and telling me about how much fitter you are and how you could beat up US soldiers without breaking a sweat. Dear God, give me a break. I mean what do you expect me to say? YOU UNBELIEVABLE STUD YOU! MAY I BEAR YOUR CHILDREN? PLEASE?!

 

Crikey. What's this supposed to be, Chasing Marney? Get over yourself, dipshit. I've never seen anyone so smug and self-impressed in my life.

[Guest MikeSC]

Crikey. What's this supposed to be, Chasing Marney? Get over yourself, dipshit. I've never seen anyone so smug and self-impressed in my life.

You never met Gen. Wesley Clark?

-=Mike

[Firestarter 0]

Nope. <g> He was fired before my time.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

My goodness, you're insecure. Any time I say I admire a person's physique, or that such and such group of people go through pretty intensive physical training, there you are, pimping your body and telling me about how much fitter you are and how you could beat up US soldiers without breaking a sweat. Dear God, give me a break. I mean what do you expect me to say? YOU UNBELIEVABLE STUD YOU! MAY I BEAR YOUR CHILDREN? PLEASE?!

 

Crikey. What's this supposed to be, Chasing Marney? Get over yourself, dipshit. I've never seen anyone so smug and self-impressed in my life.

Translation: I was wrong on most counts and was caught in my bullshit but since you mentioned a couple of sentences about running I'm gonna overexaggerate that point and talk about how you constantly brag about your physique much like how I overexaggerate everything about that hunk in the white house.

 

So I'm the most smug and self-impressed person that you've ever met in your life? I'm sorry, but having some confidence in yourself will probably seem like I consider myself a God when you consider the fact that we're on a wrestling message board. Self-deprecating humour is the shit here. Ironically, you probably build up yourself more than anyone else on the board.

 

If I did mention that I can beat up a US Soldier or something, because I honestly don't remember, that makes what, two posts out of like 1400? Yeah, I constantly brag about my physique. I'll tell you this much, regardless of whatever I might have said before; whatever intense training the Marines go through, I can't do it. Simple eh? But I can tell you that it involves more than running around a track. You talked through your ass about the President BEIGN THE FITTEZT MENZ EVERZ OMG HEZ SO HAWT~!!!!!!!! so I called you on it, if only because it's such a ridiculous thing to say. But hey, if I didn't call you on it, I wouldn't have been able to read that story about the 100 degree run, something that I really want to try. Of course, now that I mentioned it, I expect you to come up with something else that's stupid about me. Bleh.

 

OMG EYE DONT HAV XACTLY 4TEEN HUNDREED POSTS IM SO STOOPID~!!!!

[Firestarter 0]

Translation: I was wrong on most counts

1. I think President Bush is hot. Wrong? How do you think you proved, or even could prove me wrong on that?

2. President Bush is in extremely good shape, not just "for his age," but for anyone of any age. A 44 bpm resting heart rate is not something that even top athletes generally have. Wrong? Go read up on the BPM rate. It's an excellent indicator of overall health.

3. Many Marines and Secret Service agents, who have some of the most rigorous training regimens in the world, can't keep up with President Bush. Wrong? The news article I posted proved it. Plus, I've seen it in person. He carries on easy conversations while running, as most of his guests are red-faced, panting, streaming sweat, and struggling to keep pace.

 

Ironically, you probably build up yourself more than anyone else on the board

Yeah, I'm always the first one to contradict any praise of anyone by saying "I could do better than that."

 

No, wait. That's you.

 

regardless of whatever I might have said before; whatever intense training the Marines go through, I can't do it

Congratulations on finally accepting the truth. There, that didn't hurt too much, did it?

 

Now all you have to do is swallow a little more of your pride and admit that no one on this board is likely to be in half as good shape as the President, regardless of his age or the average age of the posters here, and I'll let you off the hook.

 

I can tell you that it involves more than running around a track

Well, that's a fucking revelation, considering I trained a bunch of them.

 

You talked through your ass about the President BEIGN THE FITTEZT MENZ EVERZ OMG HEZ SO HAWT~!!!!!!!!

Here's a tip: when you're criticising someone else for what you feel was unwonted hyperbole, don't indulge in it yourself. Those words never came out of my mouth. I lightheartedly said that the President could turn me straight easily, and said that he was in great shape. And he is. You came along almost immediately to denigrate him because apparently you take it as a personal insult when I express admiration for anyone who isn't you. Sorry, but whatever your fixation is with me, it's not my problem. It's yours.

 

so I called you on it

Do you feel like a big strong manly stud now?

[MrRant 0]

This is almost better than the Explain This To Me thread.

 

Almost.

[Sass 0]

Sorry for veering off topic here folks.

 

As a fitness freak (and the WSM trainee that BX mentioned), a 56 year-old man running a 7:30 mile is *damn* impressive (but like Marney pointed out, that's impressive for anyone of any age). My father is a couple years younger than Bush and he runs every other day at the beach for about 2 miles but could never run a mile in less than that amount of time. I hope that when I'm 56 I'll be able to run a 7:30 mile and not feel like my chest is on fire afterwards.

 

My hat goes off to President Bush for being in such fit shape (and even more impressive is how he fits his work-out time into what is probably a loaded schedule).

Edited January 25, 2004 by Sass

[BX 0]

 

The President of the United States would like to remind our athletes that, as role models, they are obligated to discontinue steroid use in professional sports. Or else, he'll break their arms with his pinky toe and add them to the "Axis of Evil" list.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

[Jobber of the Week 0]

1. I think President Bush is hot. Wrong? How do you think you proved, or even could prove me wrong on that?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Probably being voted on by a bunch of Democrats.

 

I had a few discussions with some girl friends years ago regarding this topic. I think the guy looks good; many of my gfs said they would take Gore.

 

That was until he grew that beard...

[Guest Cerebus]

 

The President of the United States would like to remind our athletes that, as role models, they are obligated to discontinue steroid use in professional sports. Or else, he'll break their arms with his pinky toe and add them to the "Axis of Evil" list.

[EricMM 0]

Hmmm...

 

*picks up PDA*

 

"New goal on To-Do list: Become more physically fit than G.W.Bush. He is 57. I am 21."

 

Seriously, 44 bmp resting is rediculous. Lance Armstrong has that. And I would say that endurance is a more accurate test of health than strength. Your muscles won't keep you alive, your heart will.

 

Still, I wonder how many sit ups he can do?

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Translation: I was wrong on most counts

1. I think President Bush is hot. Wrong? How do you think you proved, or even could prove me wrong on that?

2. President Bush is in extremely good shape, not just "for his age," but for anyone of any age. A 44 bpm resting heart rate is not something that even top athletes generally have. Wrong? Go read up on the BPM rate. It's an excellent indicator of overall health.

3. Many Marines and Secret Service agents, who have some of the most rigorous training regimens in the world, can't keep up with President Bush. Wrong? The news article I posted proved it. Plus, I've seen it in person. He carries on easy conversations while running, as most of his guests are red-faced, panting, streaming sweat, and struggling to keep pace.

 

Ironically, you probably build up yourself more than anyone else on the board

Yeah, I'm always the first one to contradict any praise of anyone by saying "I could do better than that."

 

No, wait. That's you.

 

regardless of whatever I might have said before; whatever intense training the Marines go through, I can't do it

Congratulations on finally accepting the truth. There, that didn't hurt too much, did it?

 

Now all you have to do is swallow a little more of your pride and admit that no one on this board is likely to be in half as good shape as the President, regardless of his age or the average age of the posters here, and I'll let you off the hook.

 

I can tell you that it involves more than running around a track

Well, that's a fucking revelation, considering I trained a bunch of them.

 

You talked through your ass about the President BEIGN THE FITTEZT MENZ EVERZ OMG HEZ SO HAWT~!!!!!!!!

Here's a tip: when you're criticising someone else for what you feel was unwonted hyperbole, don't indulge in it yourself. Those words never came out of my mouth. I lightheartedly said that the President could turn me straight easily, and said that he was in great shape. And he is. You came along almost immediately to denigrate him because apparently you take it as a personal insult when I express admiration for anyone who isn't you. Sorry, but whatever your fixation is with me, it's not my problem. It's yours.

 

so I called you on it

Do you feel like a big strong manly stud now?

I must say, I always feel like a big manly stud...

 

 

....or not.

 

 

Eh, he's fit. Good for him.

 

You think he's hot. Good for you.

 

I just finished my exams. Good for me.

[MrRant 0]

Goddamn he's an ugly bastard.

 

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Goddamn he's an ugly bastard.

 

Crew-cut, wild look in his eyes, and a face that looks like he's toughened up from taking too many shots.

 

All of that plus he's fighting the Conservative battle. I'd say he's the "Anti-hippie".

 

Glorify him in your sig.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

And a bit of a followup

 

http://www.eurekareporter.com/Stories/fp-06180405.htm

 

 

Young Conservative Speaks To Republican Women

by Christine Bensen

The Eureka Reporter

 

Seventeen-year-old Tim Bueler gained national attention after starting a conservative club at his high school last year in response to what he perceived to be a liberal bias being taught in public schools.

 

The founder and president of High School Conservative Clubs of America, Bueler was the guest speaker at the Eureka Republican Women, Federated luncheon Friday.

 

The junior at Rancho Cotate High School in Rohnert Park said shortly after he started the club he began receiving threats, being called names and was even told by his principal that he may want to stay home from school for his own safety.

 

“I’ve recorded my teachers calling me a racist and a Nazi,” Bueler said.

 

The club also produces a newsletter called “The Conservative Agenda,” which was banned from campus.

 

The club, whose motto is “defending America from the radical left,” has gone through five teacher advisers because, he said, they have been continuously hassled by other teachers at the school until they quit.

 

In addition, 40 teachers and the principal at the school signed a petition trying to ban the club, which has more than 100 members.

 

A devout Christian, Bueler said, he prays for his teachers and does not have bad feelings toward them.

“I want them to give me a fair and balanced education,” he said. “Is that too much to ask?”

 

Bueler has been featured on the O’Reilly Factor, and he and his club have been mentioned on talk shows such as Rush Limbaugh and Mike Savage.

 

He also has his own talk show called “Tim Bueler’s High School Conservative Report” that broadcasts on AM 720 Talk Radio in Nevada, which reaches Arizona, British Columbia, California, Utah, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Washington, Oregon, Mexico, Wyoming and Idaho.

 

After he graduates from high school next year, Bueler said, he plans to join the U.S. Army Rangers and eventually attend college at University of California, Berkeley.

 

He said he has no interest in politics.

 

“Politics isn’t the answer, activism is,” Bueler said.

 

Although he said U.C. Berkeley is probably the most-liberal university in the United States, he plans to attend school there to enlighten people about the conservative agenda.

 

http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/04/43/news-arellano.php

 

"Over 3,000 of our own people died at the hands of illegal aliens and their religion of peace, Islam!" Bueler screamed. Soon after assuming the podium, he denounced George W. Bush as being soft on immigration, mocking him for expressing sympathy for migrants who die trying to cross the U.S.-Mexican border.

 

"The price of freedom, my friends, is paid in blood," Bueler boomed. "The blood of our ancestors. For hundreds of years, Americans have fought to keep it and secure our freedom. And to extend the light of liberty to other countries. I’m not going to stand by and let some Third World illegal immigrants from Mexico, the Middle East or any other country continue to destroy our language and our American culture.

 

"We’re at a crossroads in America," Bueler continued. "If our government is not willing to enforce our immigration laws and uphold our laws, then what do we start to do? We take matters into our own hands."

 

That sentiment produced cheers from the crowd.

 

After finishing his 20-minute speech, Bueler entertained questions from the floor. One man asked about his plans after high school—what college he would attend or whether he ever thought about entering politics.

 

"Politics is not the answer," Bueler shot back. His eyes glinted as he began explaining to the audience why he was no longer planning to enroll at a university. "I am tired of the religion of peace, Islam," Bueler thundered. "I know that Islam is not peaceful—it’s rooted in evil. And these people have declared war against all of us, all of us being Christians and Jews. And they want to do what they did to Daniel Pearl and Paul Johnson and Nick Berg to us. What I’m going to do is join the Army Rangers."

 

The elderly crowd began applauding, but Bueler wasn’t finished. He explained how his father tried to sway Bueler from this decision, warning that he would most likely find death in Iraq. To this point, Bueler shared with the audience, he shrugged and smiled.

 

"As long as I take one of those guys with me, I’ll be very satisfied."

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I want to arm-wrestle Bush.

[Guest combat_rock]

Y'know, after reading this whole thread, I just want to know one thing. If the government spends trillions of tax dollars protecting the lives of ALL citizens from terrorists, hostile regimes, everday crime, etc., why does it suddenly become socialism/communism if they want a system to protect us ALL from disease. Universal or more health care isn't a socialist belief, it's just a set of priorities that differ from some other people who also aren't neccesarily wrong, and the right to hold and espouse those beliefs is the American ideal.

 

Another small note on the ten commandments. I could see it if they all pertained to actual laws, but adultrey, coveting things, respecting your parents, and in most cases lying aren't illegal; and a couple of those concepts are so open to interpatation (or in the case of coveting, ussually impossible to even detect) that it would be impossible too make them so. So what purpose does it serve in a US courthouse again?

[Guest MikeSC]

Y'know, after reading this whole thread, I just want to know one thing. If the government spends trillions of tax dollars protecting the lives of ALL citizens from terrorists, hostile regimes, everday crime, etc., why does it suddenly become socialism/communism if they want a system to protect us ALL from disease.

Because national defense is expressly listed in the Constitution as an obligation of the govt. Health care definitely is not.

Universal or more health care isn't a socialist belief, it's just a set of priorities that differ from some other people who also aren't neccesarily wrong, and the right to hold and espouse those beliefs is the American ideal.

Nobody said they don't have the right to espouse their belief that health care should be considered a right. However, people also need to realize that the ability to say that it very much is not a right is ALSO a right of people.

 

As I said earlier today, the right to disagree is not a one-way street.

Another small note on the ten commandments. I could see it if they all pertained to actual laws, but adultrey, coveting things, respecting your parents, and in most cases lying aren't illegal; and a couple of those concepts are so open to interpatation (or in the case of coveting, ussually impossible to even detect) that it would be impossible too make them so. So what purpose does it serve in a US courthouse again?

Lying under oath is extremely illegal.

-=Mike

[Guest combat_rock]

That's why I said in most cases it isn't. It's not illegal to tell your teacher your dog ate your homework, or other little bullshit that people do. And I never said that universal healthcare is a right, but we can change that, or choose not too. The thing is, I feel that this guy thinks that everyone who says that we should do that is a socialist.

[Highland 0]

I hope he does get sent to Iraq and if we're lucky Darwinism will take over from there.

[BX 0]

Jesus Christ, somebody send that kid a ruby-colored armband already.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Thank you Rob for showing the proper reasons to bump threads (If he's going to attend Berkeley, I'm sure this thread will get a few more bumps in the near future).

 

Damn, that guy looks like Ralph Reed.

 

And what's the Vegas line on this kid showing up in one of those "beheading" videos in the near future?...