Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 23, 2004 and the system we got now isn't? INFINITELY so. You think it's hard to gain some support amongst 435 Reps and 100 Senators? Try passing a bill requiring 125M+ Americans to support it. -=Mike ..."In a stunningly surprise victory of 126,543,789 to 124,219,809, 'sunny' has won the distinction of being the preferrable weather of the U.S.A" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted January 23, 2004 plus, you really want to see clinton or bush in a toga? yeesh...point taken... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2004 plus, you really want to see clinton or bush in a toga? I don't get this. President Bush is in better shape than anyone on this board, including me. I'd love to see him in a toga or anything at all, or nothing at all, actually... Um, I'm going to stop talking right about now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace309 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2004 FUCK DIRECTIONS! ALL THIS LEFT AND RIGHT BULLSHIT, AND NO ONES GOING FOWARD!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!111 I think I should leave this folder for my own good..... Well, that was a pointless post that either ignorantly or willfully misused two words that have specific meanings in the context. actually, the funny part is, he's right. partisan politics, for my money, is bullshit. this is supposed to be the "United Sates", emphasis on UNITED...how are we, as a people, supposed to unite when the fucking government can't be bothered to? why not run as an individual instead of as a party? Besides the whole "efficiency" angle, there's the advantage of party politics allowing people to easily categorize their stances and support the party that most closely resembles their ideology. The problem is that people start bullshitting about "partisan politics" when they don't understand that factions are going to form based on ideology regardless of what happens. You make it sound like supporting people who share your ideology because they share your ideology is a bad thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2004 The problem nowadays with our government is that they are not representative of the people in any way except possibly throwing the word abortion, or marriage, or god around a few times. Other then that, the only ones they represent is the corporations that bribe them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 President Bush is in better shape than anyone on this board I was going to make a funny edited picture with Bush's head on some bodybuilder right here, but a Google image search for "great body" just brought up a bunch of naked wimmen. Too bad, too, or you all would be seeing a pretty amusing picture right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Damn, I was going to pick up where you left off, but I quit after seeing this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Love the background. JOBS GROWTH OPPERTUNITY Needs more "LOL" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 plus, you really want to see clinton or bush in a toga? I don't get this. President Bush is in better shape than anyone on this board, including me. I'd love to see him in a toga or anything at all, or nothing at all, actually... Um, I'm going to stop talking right about now. You're kidding right? I mean, I know he's pretty much the fittest president we've had or whatever (I thought his dad was, but I don't even know and he was probably much older during his time in office) but I highly doubt he's fitter than a bunch of twenty somethings. Twenty somethings on a message board, about wrestling to boot, but twenty something regardless. Worst comes to worst, he ain't fitter than me I tell you that much. Still a fan of his though, I just think that you're going overboard. Olympic Slam has always shown traces of conspiracy in him, but he's just out of the fucking closet now. I personally believe that Extreme Conservative Conspiracy Theorists are funnier than Extreme Liberal Conspiracy theorists, although I could see why one would think differently. "Bush = Hitler" is just as funny as "Bush = Commie Pinko Fag". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 plus, you really want to see clinton or bush in a toga? I don't get this. President Bush is in better shape than anyone on this board, including me. I'd love to see him in a toga or anything at all, or nothing at all, actually... Um, I'm going to stop talking right about now. Between this post and that other where you claim your deep love for the President, I'm beginning to think he's turned you straight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 You're kidding right? I mean, I know he's pretty much the fittest president we've had or whatever (I thought his dad was, but I don't even know and he was probably much older during his time in office) but I highly doubt he's fitter than a bunch of twenty somethings. Twenty somethings on a message board, about wrestling to boot, but twenty something regardless. How many "twenty somethings" in the world do you think are capable of running 10 miles in 100 degree heat? Most of his own SECURITY DETAIL can't keep up with him, and the Secret Service has one of the most rigorous set of physical requirements of any organisation anywhere in the world. Entire Marine Corps platoons have collapsed by the trackside while he ran laps around them. President Bush has a resting heartbeat of barely 44 beats per minute and less than 15% body fat. 99% of the best marathon runners in the world, of ANY age, can't match that. And you think anyone on an internet message board comes close? Ridiculous. You don't know anyone in better shape. You've never even heard of anyone in better shape. Worst comes to worst, he ain't fitter than me I tell you that much. Yeah, I'm sure. I suppose you win a couple of Iron Man triathlons every morning before breakfast, and three on Sundays? Ignorant little braggart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Between this post and that other where you claim your deep love for the President, I'm beginning to think he's turned you straight... He could in a heartbeat, but he's married, and I admire the First Lady a great deal as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 How many "twenty somethings" in the world do you think are capable of running 10 miles in 100 degree heat? Most of his own SECURITY DETAIL can't keep up with him, and the Secret Service has one of the most rigorous set of physical requirements of any organisation anywhere in the world. Entire Marine Corps platoons have collapsed by the trackside while he ran laps around them. President Bush has a resting heartbeat of barely 44 beats per minute and less than 15% body fat. 99% of the best marathon runners in the world, of ANY age, can't match that. And you think anyone on an internet message board comes close? Ridiculous. You don't know anyone in better shape. You've never even heard of anyone in better shape. And yet one little pretzel nearly took him out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 I'm in my 20's, I write to an internet message board, etc. I'd say I'm in shape, but I'm nowhere near the shape Bush is in. People can say what they want about his policies (I disagree with most of them), but the man is in shape. I wouldn't mind at all being nearly as fit as him when I am his age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted January 24, 2004 To Olympic, Umm dood. Communism's dead. There's no threat from that type of political system anymore. Period. Learn something about history will you? You're confusing systems of government and thought with american paternalism. Someone should really learn a bit before spousing off on subjects like they know it. *sigh, but then again, No one listens to the economists* And if you would like to call me, ohhh leftist, then you're way off base. I'm not, I listen to Hannity, and have since he started in Atlanta. Now, you claim this leftist thought is the greatest danger to America? It's not. The greatest danger to America are extremeist thoughts on BOTH sides of the spectrum... America is NOT one single concept that forever stays the same. Our founding fathers realized this, and created a document that could change as society changed. Society changes because our ability to produce changes. Making America adhere to one thought, one ideology, and one way of living will kill America. They way you talk, it seems like you want to champion freedom. You only champion silence. I don't know why I'm wasting my time but I guess I what I have to say is too important to ignore..... Umm dood. Communism's dead. There's no threat from that type of political system anymore. Period. Learn something about history will you? Communism/Socialism is alive and well in the world. As long as there is inequality in the world, there will ALWAYS be millions of people, mostly politicans, that will want to take from the haves and give to the have-nots. Compassion, no matter how warped you or I may think it is, will always exist. That's why I'm not a Libertarian. I want to believe in the Libertarian ideaology but its a false promise. There will always be jealous people in the world that will want to use government to create level playing fields via systems like socialism and communism. The Libertarians dream of a world without big government, but they forget that its impossible to eliminate human DESIRE for more egalitarian forms of government. It's just the way things are. Plus, while the word Communism may be dead, Karl Marx's ideas will always be very popular. I ought to know, I go head to head with that line of thinking every day with my professors. America is NOT one single concept that forever stays the same. Our founding fathers realized this, and created a document that could change as society changed. Society changes because our ability to produce changes. Making America adhere to one thought, one ideology, and one way of living will kill America. They way you talk, it seems like you want to champion freedom. You only champion silence. You are so missing what I’m trying to say. I just want to protect American capitalism. That's it. You all keep glossing over what I'm saying and attacking how I'm saying it. It is BECAUSE of capitalism, the free market and the invisible hand of society that allow we Americans to choose to live the kind of life that we see fit. We can believe whatever we want, we can worship whatever we want and we can raise our children how we want. Our economic system (i.e, minimal safety nets and minimal social engineering) makes it so that Americans are judged NOT by WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN but what they CONTRIBUTE to society. Ability, not by race, not by gender and not by religion. Get it? If we take away the incentives for Americans to help contribute to society, then we're left with a polygot of cultures where people will be judged upon NOT by ability but by what they believe in. This is why America is the least racist and most tolerant nation on the planet. There are more important trais than which God each person worships. Most prejudice I encounter is not about what people say or do, but what kind of BENEFITS those particular groups receive that put focus more on their beliefs and way of life than on ability. I don't care what people do in their private life, so long as they are good citizens and contribute to society. This makes America work. America is the greatest country on earth because its an idea and not just a racist home for a single homogoneous culture/race. We actually stand for something that goes beyond race and religion! I guess I should rephrase my point. It's not communism exactly that's the threat, but a world of social engineering where BIASES are put ahead of ABILITY. In America, people should be able to speak whatever language they should so choose. However, government and social engineers should NOT be there to assist people in making that decision. If Spanish is not compatible with the current American mainstream, then those who speak it should choose to adapt to what DOES work in America. God bless the invisible hand of society; that wonderful (and very Democratic thing) that forces people to adapt to the nation’s current line of thinking. In contrast to the invisible hand is government, which would seek to provide Spanish speakers with more “opportunities.” This is social engineering and it puts BIASES before ABILITY. When this is put ABOVE business and our market system, then we're left with a nation that cares more about personal traits than the common good. That = trouble. Communism no longer comes in the form of the hammer and sickle. It's hidden in the shadows and is as vague as it can get (see the Fast Food controversies that have started up the past few years.) That is why I'm so worried about eglalitarian thinking. This isn't like the 50's where we could have possibly lost America to communism via a war with guys named Vladamir. Today in 2004 and beyond, we could lose America to something that doesn't appear at all like communism. It's like getting an undetectable disease. We're not going to get “sneezed” on by communism, we'll get infected with it slowly but surely before we even realize it (it started with Lyndon Johnson under a little something called the Great Society). This is all I'm saying; we need to protect the things that make America work. Since America is an idea and not a slab of land, once the idea is taken away from us then we no longer have America. If you take away the tusks, the trunk and the size of an elepehant, is it still an elephant? Terrorism can’t destroy America the idea, but taking away the things that make up that idea (capitalism, the free market, the constitution, the invisible hand) can. Which will affect the average citizen more: a bomb set off by Al-Qaida in a random city? Or, creating a hostile business environment for any and all forms of business in America? Both are threatening and both target different portions of America life. We need to be on the lookout for both. They way you talk, it seems like you want to champion freedom. You only champion silence. I think I just proved that statement incorrect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 President Bush has a resting heartbeat of barely 44 beats per minute I could make a joke about blood going (or not going) to his brain, but... Nah. 99% of the best marathon runners in the world, of ANY age, can't match that. Hot damn! I know who our star Olympic runner is going to be in Athens this year! "You want some of this, Zimbabwe? How about you, Brazil? Bring it on!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 ridiculous stuff I heard that coke is some powerful shit. Seriously, I know you're joking, but what's next? "Able to spawn twin alcoholics instantly with his supersperm?" Yeah, I'm sure. I suppose you win a couple of Iron Man triathlons every morning before breakfast, and three on Sundays? Ignorant little braggart. We have an admin here who was training for the World's Strongest Man competition before he broke his arms. I'd say that's pretty fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted January 24, 2004 ridiculous stuff I heard that coke is some powerful shit. Seriously, I know you're joking, but what's next? "Able to spawn twin alcoholics instantly with his supersperm?" Yeah, I'm sure. I suppose you win a couple of Iron Man triathlons every morning before breakfast, and three on Sundays? Ignorant little braggart. We have an admin here who was training for the World's Strongest Man competition before he broke his arms. I'd say that's pretty fit. I'm sure Bush would be in the same physical shape as SmarkBoard posters if he spent his entire day writing things like "OMG HHH is holding down RVD!!!1" Instead, he has the most stressful job on Earth (lot's of sweating) and access to some of the country's best personal trainers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 I'm sure Bush would be in the same physical shape as SmarkBoard posters if he spent his entire day writing things like "OMG HHH is holding down RVD!!!1" Instead, he has the most stressful job on Earth (lot's of sweating) and access to some of the country's best personal trainers. No, instead he spends his entire day saying things like "OMG Ted Kennedy is holding down *name of judicial nominee/appropriation/etc.*..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 I saw Bush and HHH mentioned close together and pictured GW in those shorts shorts coming out to lasers, fireworks, dark lights, and a heavy rock remix of Hail To The Chief with Cheney behind in the managerial role. "Wrestling fans, the champion. From Crawford, Texas; Halliburton presents: THE PRESIDENT!" *smelly angry fans at one side of the arena* "BOOOOO!" *on the other sice, wealthy well-dressed people with their noses buried in the Bible* "Yay!" *they pump their fists in the air, not once looking up* *Bush sprays water in the air, throws the bottle into the crowd* Marney: "OHMYGOD OHGODOHGODOHGOD I CAUGHT IT!!!" Look out, champ, Howie Dean and "Vietnam" Kerry are going to offer you pretzels as a peace offering! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Talk about crappy booking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted January 24, 2004 I saw Bush and HHH mentioned close together and pictured GW in those shorts shorts coming out to lasers, fireworks, dark lights, and a heavy rock remix of Hail To The Chief with Cheney behind in the managerial role. "Wrestling fans, the champion. From Crawford, Texas; Halliburton presents: THE PRESIDENT!" *smelly angry fans at one side of the arena* "BOOOOO!" *on the other sice, wealthy well-dressed people with their noses buried in the Bible* "Yay!" *they pump their fists in the air, not once looking up* *Bush sprays water in the air, throws the bottle into the crowd* Marney: "OHMYGOD OHGODOHGODOHGOD I CAUGHT IT!!!" Look out, champ, Howie Dean and "Vietnam" Kerry are going to offer you pretzels as a peace offering! *Changes channel to Monday Night Football* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Crap, I've seen JOTW's name at the bottom of this screen for a while now. I don't want to know what I've just unleashed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Crap, I've seen JOTW's name at the bottom of this screen for a while now. I don't want to know what I've just unleashed... I don't know why. I wasn't even here from 11:15PM Pacific until 1:30AM. Has someone stolen my account again? I guess we'll find out soon enough when the posts start showing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Hmmm, I hope Mr. Ashcroft wasn't using somebody's account to access TSM. If you get audited for the next 5 years, we'll know the answer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 ridiculous stuff I heard that coke is some powerful shit. Seriously, I know you're joking, but what's next? CBS story: President's 'Feeling Good' Every single statement I made is well documented. Suck it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Oh come on... Everyone knows Taft was the fittest president... I mean, he had his own bathtub AND horse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Oh come on... Everyone knows Taft was the fittest president... I mean, he had his own bathtub AND horse And got stuck in said bathtub as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 Oh come on... Everyone knows Taft was the fittest president... I mean, he had his own bathtub AND horse And got stuck in said bathtub as well. That was the initial bathtub, which was too wimpy for his manly figure... hence they put in the new one for his very fit self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2004 You're kidding right? I mean, I know he's pretty much the fittest president we've had or whatever (I thought his dad was, but I don't even know and he was probably much older during his time in office) but I highly doubt he's fitter than a bunch of twenty somethings. Twenty somethings on a message board, about wrestling to boot, but twenty something regardless. How many "twenty somethings" in the world do you think are capable of running 10 miles in 100 degree heat? Most of his own SECURITY DETAIL can't keep up with him, and the Secret Service has one of the most rigorous set of physical requirements of any organisation anywhere in the world. Entire Marine Corps platoons have collapsed by the trackside while he ran laps around them. President Bush has a resting heartbeat of barely 44 beats per minute and less than 15% body fat. 99% of the best marathon runners in the world, of ANY age, can't match that. And you think anyone on an internet message board comes close? Ridiculous. You don't know anyone in better shape. You've never even heard of anyone in better shape. Worst comes to worst, he ain't fitter than me I tell you that much. Yeah, I'm sure. I suppose you win a couple of Iron Man triathlons every morning before breakfast, and three on Sundays? Ignorant little braggart. It said top 1% of men HIS AGE. Obviously if he has the best physical trainers in the world he can be in better shape than a bunch of 60 year old men. I didn't know that fitness was only determined by long distance running. My mistake. If the Marine Corps can't keep up with a sixty year old man, than something is clearly wrong there. I don't care if he's in the top 1% of men his age, that still doesn't change the fact that he's in the top 1% of SIXTY YEAR OLD MEN. Obviously though, they're fitter because there are more aspects to one's physical condition than long distance running. That's what old people do! They jog. You tend to see him in a much brighter light than the rest of us. I like him and all, as I'm sure most of the people that frequent this folder do as well, but dayume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites