Invictus 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 They should just start reporting everything as being leaked by Vince McMahon himself, so he has an overload and explodes like the robots in Futurama. *Vinny checks some Wrestling sites, and see's many future angles leaked* Vince:" What!? This is an outrage, I said whoever leaked info in the future would be fired--of all the nerve. I'm gonna find out who did this and fire them immediately." *scrolls down to bottom* "Vincent McMa--that's me! But if I leaked the info, I have to be fired, but I can't be fired because I'm Vince McMahon...but I leaked the info...I--me--I fired--no--me... RAAAAAGGHHHHHHH!" *overloads* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 It's Shane McMahon! He's the leak! He's using it to destroy Vince's company from within and will then resurrect it under his wise, benevolent leadership. heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Vince: Shane? ::Shane stops beating up Paul London, who is forbidden from fighting back:: Shane: Sure, Pop! Shane wouldn't do that. He's the good McMahon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Vince: Shane? ::Shane stops beating up Paul London, who is forbidden from fighting back:: Shane: Sure, Pop! Shane wouldn't do that. He's the good McMahon! I like to call him the Good Son. Take whatever meaning you want from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Personally, I think it's Trish and all her damn Smart-Mark interviews. Coming soon to TSM: The Wilma the Worker SHOOT~ interview! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Personally, I think it's Trish and all her damn Smart-Mark interviews. Coming soon to TSM: The Wilma the Worker SHOOT~ interview! Leave me out of it... it'll be a guest column written in the name of Langdon Alger or Rollo Tomasi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Blame Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 So Vince doesn't want things leaked out because it "ruins the illusion"? Um, Vince...telling athletic commissions that it's entertainment instead if a sport in order to avoid paying taxes pretty much took care of that. In all honesty, I'd rather things didn't get leaked out, as I'd be less pissed when they actually go through with some of this stupid shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicalprofit 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Ya know, I remember the whole nWo angel and Vince saying he was going to destory the WWE...maybe he IS, cause well, he's Vince, and he can do what he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted January 22, 2004 The best part about all this is that these new weekly meetings have kept giving us more and more things to laugh at. I mean, Vince does know that some of his most die-hard fans use the 'net, right? You know, at times like this, I think it's good to remember: When WCW died, it was a slow, agonizing death that spaned years. But it was never boring! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Vince is never going to find out who leaks the info anyway. Is Meltz gonna call Vince with names??? I gotta agree with wrestlingbs though, this is the most boring corporate implosion I've ever seen. At least the disgruntled WCW guys went off and unprofessional shoot interviews on TV. These guys are all "oooo I'm gonna leak Wrestlemania matches to wrestling reporters." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 It must have been the guy you least suspect underneath the table with the Lap top overhearing every one of these meetings... Harvey Whippleman! his motivations is still having a job with the WWE all this time and not being used anymore but be fodder for Main eventers, a low rent flower boy and a transvestite who won the Womens championship for a half a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RHR 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Lackey: Sir, we have found the leak. It's a wrestler. Vince: Great, tell me who it is so I can fire his ass! Lackey: It's Ultimo Dragon. Vince: Ultim...who? Warrior? He doesn't work here anymore! Lackey: No sir. Ultimo Dragon. Vince: Steamboat?? The Dragon??? Lackey: No sir. Ultimo Dragon. He's a cruiserweight respected the world over as a great wrestler. Vince:--- Lackey: We also think Paul London may be a source as well. Vince:---- JR---BAH GAWD SON! DON'T MESS WITH THE MAN!! NONE OF THOSE GUYS WORK HERE!! NOWGIDONOUTTAHERENOW AND FIND THE DAMN LEAK!!! INVESTIGATE IT LIKE STONE COLD INVESTGATES WHO HITS PEOPLE WITH CARS!!! STONE COLD!!! STONE COLD!!!! (pisses self) Vince: When did we hire Warrior back anyway? Fertig: VINCE! VINCE! Raw General Manatuar Urkel needs you. Vince: Nice shoes, kid. Lackey: @%&^ng-A. (under breath) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted January 22, 2004 I'm pretty sure that Raven used to leak stuff to Scherer when he was in WWE. Scherer used to have all these regular "backstage notes from RAW" updates until Raven left the company. Whoever is leaking info to the likes Keller and Scherer are most likely getting paid for the info - which suggests that it's a few of the crew or lower card workers who might need the extra cash. As far as Meltzer is concerened, he's that revered in pro wrestling that I imagine WWE talent passing along various info when he contacts them. If Meltzer hears a story I think it's safe to say that it's common practice for him to call up someone within the company and get the full information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Betty Houle 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 You'd think the possibility of being fired would be INCENTIVE for a few people to leak info... -Patrick Damn right! It's a wrestler's dream to not work for the biggest company in the country and to not be able to feed their family! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Just goes to show you how too much success can go straight to one's head. This isn't the first time we've heard of Brock being a prick and I'm sure it won't be the last. I'm just speechless.... I hope that was sarcasm. I'm actually shocked there hasn't been more hate towards Brock now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 22, 2004 I can't imagine why Brock would be pissed off about his booking plans being put out there three months ahead of time. Can't imagine. You'd think he'd be thrilled about being asked about storylines that haven't even started yet. SARRRRRRCASTIC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Just goes to show you how too much success can go straight to one's head. This isn't the first time we've heard of Brock being a prick and I'm sure it won't be the last. I'm just speechless.... I hope that was sarcasm. I'm actually shocked there hasn't been more hate towards Brock now. Sorry.....I don't see where my sarcasm would be here. Brock has had a history so far of being an asshole. I know it's only rumors and everything but we've heard of him refusing to sign any autographs, being a dick at publicity appearances, not listening to Angle before one of their matches....the guy has a reputation of being an asshole. And this just further cements that opinion. I can't imagine why Brock would be pissed off about his booking plans being put out there three months ahead of time. Can't imagine. You'd think he'd be thrilled about being asked about storylines that haven't even started yet. SARRRRRRCASTIC! Brock can be angry. But it sounds like what he did was much too excessive. First off, to get up in front of people that are older than him, have way more professional wrestling experience than him, and have never been quoted as calling the sport "a joke", and make such a speech is terribly hypocritical. For someone that's been handed all his wrestling success so far on a silver platter, he should learn to keep his mouth closed in certain instances like this. Then, to threaten any wrestler that GOES on the Internet....what the fuck? From the sounds of this, Brock's ego is TREMENDOUSLY huge. What he did goes against just being angry and steps right into the field of being conceited, egocentric, and just all-around douchebaggery. And I'm a little shocked that not many people see a problem with his comments - possibly because he puts on decent matches. If HHH was the one to say this, once again, we would see a Smark outcry of hatred and passion. But not so here, just because it was Brock. Nobody should be excused for being an asshole, even if he is okay at his job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Sorry.....I don't see where my sarcasm would be here. Brock has had a history so far of being an asshole. I know it's only rumors and everything but we've heard of him refusing to sign any autographs, being a dick at publicity appearances, not listening to Angle before one of their matches....the guy has a reputation of being an asshole. And this just further cements that opinion. Agreed. Brock...backing up Vince...trying to become the "locker room leader"--does this not smack of playing politics to anyone else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Sorry.....I don't see where my sarcasm would be here. Brock has had a history so far of being an asshole. I know it's only rumors and everything but we've heard of him refusing to sign any autographs, being a dick at publicity appearances, not listening to Angle before one of their matches....the guy has a reputation of being an asshole. And this just further cements that opinion. And the big question ISSSSSSSSSS.... why do you give a shit? You don't have to work with the guy. The entire basis of our relationship with Brock Lesner is watching him on television if we feel like it. The idea that he has to be some sort of 'nice guy' in real life to be a professional wrestler is insane and from all the ass grab, I'm assuming he has about zero problems with Kurt Angle (who is no match construction genius btw) at this point. Brock can be angry. But it sounds like what he did was much too excessive. First off, to get up in front of people that are older than him, have way more professional wrestling experience than him, and have never been quoted as calling the sport "a joke", and make such a speech is terribly hypocritical. 1) It's not a sport. 2) He made those comments before becoming a professional wrestler which would make him about 20-lower-something at the time. 3) If these older professionals can't keep their mouths shut about whats about to happen on the show, they have dispalyed a complete lack of interest in making the product as viable an entertainment as it could be. From the sounds of this, Brock's ego is TREMENDOUSLY huge. What he did goes against just being angry and steps right into the field of being conceited, egocentric, and just all-around douchebaggery. In wrestling, a huge ego is a requirement for success. Tell me that Hogan, Flair, Savage, Austin, and Rock don't have huge egos. Even Mick Foley has an ego way bigger than you might think. He should be egocentric here when its HIS storylines being talked about in depth (even the Benoit-Triple H rumor directly affects him). And I'm a little shocked that not many people see a problem with his comments - possibly because he puts on decent matches. If HHH was the one to say this, once again, we would see a Smark outcry of hatred and passion. But not so here, just because it was Brock. Nobody should be excused for being an asshole, even if he is okay at his job. And if Benoit would have said it, everyone would have been on his side. **shrug** Welcome to the Smart Marks. The fact is someone should have spoken up sooner, but the older veterans don't seem to have the personality to do so. When the voices you hear about in these meetings are Trish Stratus and Brock Lesner, you have to question what the veterans are doing. Because it sure doesn't sound like leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Brock...backing up Vince...trying to become the "locker room leader"--does this not smack of playing politics to anyone else? Oh for the love of... MAYBE HE AGREES WITH VINCE AND IS NOT A SUPER EVIL GENIUS OF DOOM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 And the big question ISSSSSSSSSS.... why do you give a shit? You don't have to work with the guy. Hell, doesn't mean anything to me. Just pointing out that this kind of incident is not an isolated one and that the guy seriously has a reputation of being an asshole. The idea that he has to be some sort of 'nice guy' in real life to be a professional wrestler is insane. I NEVER said he had to be a nice guy to be a professional wrestler. I said it would be better if he weren't such a douchebag but....what can you do? and from all the ass grab, I'm assuming he has about zero problems with Kurt Angle (who is no match construction genius btw) at this point Guys can work together and do skits for the crowd together even if they don't like each other. See "Triple H/Rock" and "Triple H/Austin". Not saying it's for sure that they dislike each other, but how can you say for sure that they DO like each other? 1) It's not a sport Just because it's pre-determined? They still work and train EXTREMELY hard so, although the results are known beforehand, I would consider it a sport. 2) He made those comments before becoming a professional wrestler which would make him about 20-lower-something at the time. How many years ago? A few? Maybe 5? It's not like he said it when he was a reckless kid. It was only a few years ago! Yes, he now knows more about it and probably appreciates it more but truth be told, the same guy that did call wrestling "a joke" only a little while ago is now giving speeches to guys that have been in it much longer than he has and haven't disrespected it like he has. 3) If these older professionals can't keep their mouths shut about whats about to happen on the show, they have dispalyed a complete lack of interest in making the product as viable an entertainment as it could be. Or they realize that this is management's speech to them and they should keep their mouths shut. Unfortunately, Brock doesn't look like he took it that way. In wrestling, a huge ego is a requirement for success. Tell me that Hogan, Flair, Savage, Austin, and Rock don't have huge egos. Even Mick Foley has an ego way bigger than you might think. He should be egocentric here when its HIS storylines being talked about in depth (even the Benoit-Triple H rumor directly affects him). How long have these men been in the business? Keep in mind Brock has been in WWE less than 2 YEARS, and literally has had this stuff handed to him. His career has been WAY too short for him to have such a huge ego. And we're not talking about his storylines directly here. Word got out about his match at Mania and he threatens to "kill anyone he sees on the Internet."? You could SURELY express your words in another way, without being such a prick about it. And if Benoit would have said it, everyone would have been on his side. **shrug** Welcome to the Smart Marks. Who's everyone? I wouldn't. An asshole is an asshole. The fact is someone should have spoken up sooner, but the older veterans don't seem to have the personality to do so. When the voices you hear about in these meetings are Trish Stratus and Brock Lesner, you have to question what the veterans are doing. Because it sure doesn't sound like leadership. We're not talking about "Hey guys, let's go out there and put out a better product for the fans." We're talking about "Use the Internet, and I'll fucking kill you." There's a HUGE difference. I doubt veterans are that stupid to make such a useless threat, but it seems Brock did it both to impress Vince and fill his own ego as a "locker room leader." Leadership is one thing. This certainly does not smack of leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Who doesn't play politics? I'd like to have been at those meetings, so I would know exactly what was said, and more importantly, how it was said. I feel many rumours and reports are overblown. And where does this mentality of having to be a 10 year veteran be a prerequisite for speaking your mind about your job? It's almost as bad as the stupid belief that if you didn't break your legs in the indies then you're not worthy of being a wrestler (see Maven). Frankly, I don't blame Brock and Trish for speaking up, the meetings are about their livelyhoods and don't try to tell me none of us would be speaking our minds if our own careers and livelyhoods were being discussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 I'd like to have been at those meetings, so I would know exactly what was said, and more importantly, how it was said. I feel many rumours and reports are overblown. And where does this mentality of having to be a 10 year veteran be a prerequisite for speaking your mind about your job? It's almost as bad as the stupid belief that if you didn't break your legs in the indies then you're not worthy of being a wrestler (see Maven). Frankly, I don't blame Brock and Trish for speaking up, the meetings are about their livelyhoods and don't try to tell me none of us would be speaking our minds if our own careers and livelyhoods were being discussed. Huge difference between speaking up and trying to improve the show ("Hey guys, let's go out there and work HARDER tonight. Really make the fans happy!") and making incredibly stupid threats (Use the Internet, and I'll kill you!") The first one is made in an attempt to inspire you. The second one is made in a dumb attempt to scare you, and will only continue to hurt the status of the locker room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Invictus 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 I pity the guys who maintain websites with Brock "Backwoods" Lesnar roaming about. Brock: "Hey Lance, where are you going?" Lance:" I'm going to update my website, and then check my e-mail, why?" Brock: "Wait....I think I've heard of those things before. Do you do that stuff on that internet-dealie?" Lance: "Why, yes Brock, you most certainly do." Brock: "RAAAAAAGAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Brock...backing up Vince...trying to become the "locker room leader"--does this not smack of playing politics to anyone else? Oh for the love of... MAYBE HE AGREES WITH VINCE AND IS NOT A SUPER EVIL GENIUS OF DOOM. THEN I GUESS THREATENING OTHER WRESTLERS IS FINE THEN?! SHUT UP YOU SONNUVA... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PowerPB13 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Brock...backing up Vince...trying to become the "locker room leader"--does this not smack of playing politics to anyone else? Oh for the love of... MAYBE HE AGREES WITH VINCE AND IS NOT A SUPER EVIL GENIUS OF DOOM. Dude, everyone knows Triple H is the super evil genius of doom... -Patrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Betty Houle 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2004 "Brock is such an asshole" Get a life, the all of you. PLEASE tell me you guys are all under the age of 20... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2004 Thank you, Betty. These things get way over blown. It's just words. Guys call each other assholes, dickheads and fags all the time and it means nothing. Hey asshole, grab me a beer! Fuck you, get it yourself! What? I said, fuck you! I'll kill you! Then he brings you a beer and you go on like nothing happened. It's just words. Guys talk to each other that way. However, if that happens in the WWE locker room it becomes news and gets called "heat." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2004 Thank you, Betty. These things get way over blown. It's just words. Guys call each other assholes, dickheads and fags all the time and it means nothing. Hey asshole, grab me a beer! Fuck you, get it yourself! What? I said, fuck you! I'll kill you! Then he brings you a beer and you go on like nothing happened. It's just words. Guys talk to each other that way. However, if that happens in the WWE locker room it becomes news and gets called "heat." I agree with you, nowadays there are too many "sensitive" people in this country, they get offended when they hear a curse word, shit, we watch a show where all they do is fight and trash talk to each other but as soon as the trash talking turns real people want to crucify you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites