alfdogg 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 (edited) East Starters: F: Jermaine O'Neal F: Vince Carter C: Ben Wallace G: Allen Iverson G: Tracy McGrady Reserves: Jason Kidd, Paul Pierce, Baron Davis, Ron Artest, Michael Redd, Kenyon Martin, Jamaal Magloire West Starters: F: Kevin Garnett F: Tim Duncan C: Yao Ming G: Kobe Bryant G: Steve Francis Reserves: Shaquille O'Neal, Sam Cassell, Andrei Kirilenko, Dirk Nowitzki, Peja Stojakovic, Brad Miller, Ray Allen Notable Omissions: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Carlos Boozer, LeBron James, Steve Nash, Antoine Walker, Andre Miller, Carmelo Anthony, Elton Brand, Corey Magette, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Latrell Sprewell, Stephon Marbury, Shawn Marion, Zach Randolph, Mike Bibby, Rashard Lewis, Larry Hughes Discuss. Edited February 3, 2004 by alfdogg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 LeBron James didn't make the All-Star game? That in itself shocks me. You would think so. Same with Carmelo Anthony. Those two being left out stun me to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Zach Randolph should of made it over Kirilenko. 21.5 ppg 11.0 rpg compared to 16.3 ppg and 8.0 rpg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 3, 2004 This is why they shouldn't be called All Star games, because the best players don't always play. Sports Writers should vote in the starters Coaches should pick out most of the reserves Let the fans vote in each teams 11th and 12th men I'm getting so sick and tired of seeing the starting line-ups be an injured reserve list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Lets look at a little more than points and boards Kirilenko 16.3 pts 7.9 boards 3.3 assists 44 3pts 2.07 steals 2.8 blocks Randolph 21.5 points 11.0 boards 2.3 assists 0 3pts .83 steals .5 blocks I wouldn't complain if Randolph went over Kirilenko. A case could be made either way, but to throw 21/11 to 16/8 out there with out bringing up the assists, threes, steals and blocks is not right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 One assists per game more. The steals and block I'll give you. 3 pointers shouldn't matter because Randolph's an inside player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I can't see how they would leave James out of the game. He's having probably the best year any rookie's had in ages and is a ratings grabber. If I was Stern, I would have made the coach of the East take him. The NBA has really gone down over the past few years in my opinion, and it's because of things like not including the most talked about player in your league in the All STAR Game. Right now, there aren't many bigger stars in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I'm shocked LeBron wasn't voted a starter because ESPN keeps telling me he's the biggest name in basketball now. If the fans wanted him there he would have been voted in but he wasn't so boo hoo he'll get plenty of opportunites in the future. The East is incredibly guard heavy and that's why he didn't make it. I actually do think the above scenerio of Stern forcing LeBron on the team will happen after a bunch of phony media outrage, a la the Roger Clemens fiasco with the MLB All-Star Game last year. He's having probably the best year any rookie's had in ages Yes Tim Duncan was a rookie ages ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Lebron will have plenty of All Star games in the next 15 years, let em sit for a year and get Michael Redd a spot. He deserves it. Lebron most likely got left off so they can have him for the Rookie Game. Or so the conspiracy says. I'm quite shocked Zach Randolph will be sitting at home on that night. He's playing some amazing ball and I'd agree with his selection over AK 47 who is having a damn good year in his own right. Although honestly, they should both probably be there, Ray Allen and Shaq have no business being there. They just haven't put in enough games IMO and you could easily just list Randolph as your center instead of forward. Or give Brad Miller center duties and shift Randolph to forward. But yeah, overall, outside of some of the western conference selections, I'm not bothered by any of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Are Shaq, Jermaine O'Neal, Kobe Bryant even healthy enough to play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Shaq was picked to the team simply because he is Shaq. Ray Allen making the team is the coaches proving to all of us that it's not just the fans who look at scoring and only scoring when judging a player's ability. See also: Davis, Baron. I say drop them and go with Randolph and Andre Miller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Are Shaq, Jermaine O'Neal, Kobe Bryant even healthy enough to play? Shaq only missed the Indy game because he was suspended. Kobe only cut his finger and should only miss the minimum number required for being on the list. Don't know about JO, but a strained neck doesn't *sound* bad, and he hasn't been put on the IL, so he should be okay, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Electrifyer 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 They should just let Zach Randolph play for the East and scrap Jamaal Magloire. The East's bench big men suck, so lets allow Portland to be in the Eastern conference momentarily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Nah, scrap Martin for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Electrifyer 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I wished they didn't pick the All-Stars in the form of 2 C's, 5 forward's and 5 guards or whatever, but instead pick the best 12 players from each conference. Then they could have an East team filled with guards vs. a West team full of centers and power forwards. It would be fun watching Shaq rough up Jason Kidd in the center position and then Stephon Marbury breaking Yao Ming's ankles in the point guard position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 or the west could just put in this lineup for shits and giggles: PG: Kevin Garnett SG: Dirk Nowitski SF: Tim Duncan PF: Shaquille O'Neal C: Yao Ming who would the east fucking put in if that was the starting lineup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 or the west could just put in this lineup for shits and giggles: PG: Kevin Garnett SG: Dirk Nowitski SF: Tim Duncan PF: Shaquille O'Neal C: Yao Ming who would the east fucking put in if that was the starting lineup Dear God. The east would get clobbered. It would be cool to see something like that during the all star game just for hte hell of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 or the west could just put in this lineup for shits and giggles: PG: Kevin Garnett SG: Dirk Nowitski SF: Tim Duncan PF: Shaquille O'Neal C: Yao Ming who would the east fucking put in if that was the starting lineup Dear God. The east would get clobbered. It would be cool to see something like that during the all star game just for hte hell of it. A starting line up of 7 footers? What if the East started: Paul Pierce Pau Gasol Shareef Abdul Rhim Ben Wallace Jermaine O'Neal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Electrifyer 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Gasol's on the West so he can't be in that Eastern lineup. I seem to remember in last year's All-Star game, the West at one point put a lineup of 4 centers and 1 point guard in the game. I can't remember which players specifically, but I think it was Nash, Shaq, Yao, Duncan and Webber maybe was the last one. Dirk Nowitzki said that he wanted to replace Nash in that and run the point for that lineup. Now THAT would be awesome to see. This year, they could do Yao at center, Shaq and PF, Duncan at SF, Dirk and Brad Miller could share the guard positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 A starting line up of 7 footers? What if the East started: Paul Pierce Pau Gasol Shareef Abdul Rhim Ben Wallace Jermaine O'Neal those guys would still get fucked since none of the other than JO are 7- Footers, and he is the only one as skilled as Shaq, KG, Dirk, or Timmy D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 As a Portland fan I would have liked to see Zach Randolph in there, though i guess he'll make plenty of All-Star games in the future, especially with Rasheed Wallace a lock to be gone next year at the latest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Lets look at a little more than points and boards Kirilenko 16.3 pts 7.9 boards 3.3 assists 44 3pts 2.07 steals 2.8 blocks Randolph 21.5 points 11.0 boards 2.3 assists 0 3pts .83 steals .5 blocks I would take Elton Brand over both Brand 20.1 pts 12 boards 3.6 assists .76 steals 2.24 blocks No big deal though, Elton would have been in if he didn't miss 13 games at the beginning of the year. And if Kobe goes to the Clips next year, Elton Brand will never miss an All-Star game ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted February 4, 2004 or the west could just put in this lineup for shits and giggles: PG: Kevin Garnett SG: Dirk Nowitski SF: Tim Duncan PF: Shaquille O'Neal C: Yao Ming who would the east fucking put in if that was the starting lineup Dear God. The east would get clobbered. It would be cool to see something like that during the all star game just for hte hell of it. On NBA 2K3, I did an All-Star lineup of Nowitski, Garnett, Duncan and Shaq, with I think Kobe at PG. So no one on the court was shorter than 6-7. I was dominating. Seeing as the East has better guards than the West, I'd like to see a lineup of Iverson, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd and T-Mac, with Ben Wallace playing D. That's be the quickest lineup; just a track meet all game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Garnett is able to play PG. He brought the ball up last week a few times, when Hudson left and Cassell fouled out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Last year didn't they have Duncan, Garnett, Shaq and Yao on the court with Steve Francis at the point? I know the coach (forgive me, I'm a bit brain dead ATM and can't recall who it was) was going to try to give it a shot. BTW I'm a huge Houston homer but Steve Francis doesn't belong on the team this year. This is the worst year he's had EVER statistically, and his little stunt missing the team flight so he could watch the Super Bowl show that he's not the team leader he's supposed to be. Sorry Steve but that $85 million contract should come with some personal and professional responsibility. Boot him and put in Nash or someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites