Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Now, here we have the uber-dastardly heel. The only logical way to end this and let the fans be happy is to have the dastardly heel get his. But he won't. Not ever. He'll get the belt back, we'll forget about this, he'll turn face, and drop the belt to ORton. Didn't he "get his" at WM XX? And for six months when Goldberg beat his ass every PPV? And when Michaels beat him for the title? Monster heels don't lose ALL THE TIME. That makes the act of losing kinda lose it's meaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Vince hates Canada. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 This whoooooole night was about what, getting Evolutions heat back? FLAIR'S heat back? He didn't need to be saved. What about Jericho's heat? He got like the best pop for a promo tonight... I mean come on, I thought the WWE like talkers? I actually thought Lita did ok speaking tonight as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Well...was it a No Contest or did someone actually win?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Eugene left a bloody mess, does HHH know what he's unleashed. I'd love it if he's now so intense that Benoit/Edge/Regal have to hold him back whenever he's withing hearing/seeing distance of HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 13, 2004 This whoooooole night was about what, getting Evolutions heat back? FLAIR'S heat back? He didn't need to be saved. What about Jericho's heat? He got like the best pop for a promo tonight... I mean come on, I thought the WWE like talkers? I actually thought Lita did ok speaking tonight as well. Yeah well, everybody but Orton losing all their big matches since Mania tends to do that to heels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Good to know Evolution and the Diva Search was the entire show tonight. Did we really need Diva shit every 5 minutes and does Evolution have to be involved in all but 2 angles right now. I won't even go into the Benoit shit. I'm getting real close to not watching anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Eugene- Quality wrestler, #1 face in the company. Benoit- Great wrestler, stale as shit, the most bland face champion in the history of WWE. Makes Test look charismatic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Yeah and that's why Eugene's heat has died off every week since getting involved with Triple H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 I will say this . . . That may have been Lita's best promo since . . . yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Well you got to see porn stars with their clothes on and the heels beat up a retard and comicbook guy. You know you liked it righty right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Yeah and that's why Eugene's heat has died off every week since getting involved with Triple H. Benoit never had heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 So much for the Rock being confirmed for tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Yeah and that's why Eugene's heat has died off every week since getting involved with Triple H. Not really, fans have responded since Eugene has been manipulated into being heel the last few weeks. Fans forget that he actually IS a retard, instead of just being booked like one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Yeah and that's why Eugene's heat has died off every week since getting involved with Triple H. Benoit never had heat. Whatever you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 So much for the Rock being confirmed for tonight. He was on Fox Sports Net yesterday with Hogan on Best Damn Sport Show Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Can't they appreciate how much a better wrestler Hurricane is than say Bautista? God, he's just so much more animated. Why are OVW stars worse than OMEGA stars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Note to self: never trust Prowrestling.com for reliable news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Eugene- Quality wrestler, #1 face in the company Benoit- Great wrestler, stale as shit, the most bland face champion in the history of WWE. Makes Test look charismatic. You forgot Eugene - retard Benoit - world champion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Honestly, Batista is the only Evolution member I can stand to see right now. Maybe it has something to do with him not being all over the shows like HHH/Flair/Orton have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 This whoooooole night was about what, getting Evolutions heat back? FLAIR'S heat back? He didn't need to be saved. What about Jericho's heat? He got like the best pop for a promo tonight... I mean come on, I thought the WWE like talkers? I actually thought Lita did ok speaking tonight as well. They wanted to showcase Flair because of his book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Danny Dubya v 2.0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Eugene- Quality wrestler, #1 face in the company. Benoit- Great wrestler, stale as shit, the most bland face champion in the history of WWE. Makes Test look charismatic. ... Um, sure. OK. *slowly backs away* Even if I agreed with most of your comparison between Eugene and Benoit, I'd never, ever agree with Test > Benoit in charisma. Benoit has the better mic skills, look, wrestling matches and character. How the hell does Benoit make Test look charismatic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 I'm not dissing Bautista, per se... I'm just dissing how much better Hurricane is than Bautista. Why don't they care? It MATTERS. This is why I watch ROH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Can't they appreciate how much a better wrestler Hurricane is than say Bautista? God, he's just so much more animated. Why are OVW stars worse than OMEGA stars? Both guys are really good at their respective roles though, so that may be a bad example to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 13, 2004 I'm not dissing Bautista, per se... I'm just dissing how much better Hurricane is than Bautista. Why don't they care? It MATTERS. This is why I watch ROH. He's not really that much better. Hurricane is a cool light-weight, but Batista is a good power wrestler. And if you only have one kind of wrestling it gets really boreing (this is why I wonder how fast some of you could sink the WWE if given the book). Hell, even ROH isn't completely one dimesnional, and it's STILL losing money hand over foot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Fair enough, but lets not discuss ROH here. (my bad) I just feel that these 'power' wrestlers are dependant on squashing people. I feel that Bautista can't work an excellent match unless he's winning. Whereas Hurricane can make a win OR a loss to look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 13, 2004 Fair enough, but lets not discuss ROH here. (my bad) I just feel that these 'power' wrestlers are dependant on squashing people. I feel that Bautista can't work an excellent match unless he's winning. Whereas Hurricane can make a win OR a loss to look good. That's because apart from Kane, there really isn't anyone on RAW who can match Batista physically. There's no one to sell for. Besides, as the heel, he really should be in control of a match till the end anyway. He should never really look vulnerable till that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 The Diva Search stuff really turns me off. I just switch the channels, and really don't have much desire to change back. Oh well, only ten more weeks of that crap. Something about Eugene just annoys me. While it was a pretty nice beatdown by Evolution, the match was stupid. Yes, I realize the reasoning behind it, but I would have rathered they do it another way. I don't know how smart it is to have your face champion go against another face who is, more often than not, more over than the champ right now. It just seems like bad business to me, and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And where was Edge during the beatdown? I guess they just wanted to set up a six-man next week or something. Actually, it is quite interesting that the Evolution feud with Benoit/Eugene is kept seperate than the Edge feud with Evolution. Didn't mind the Jericho/Kane match, but I hate those finishes. I guess they had to to keep either man from losing heat (although Kane losing to Matt didn't help that much, did it?). Kudos to Lita for having the best promo of her life. I actually believed her emotion. Man, did Jericho get mad at Kane tossing him over the top rope or what? Jeesh, I think I'd call that over-reacting. I was sort of hoping after the Hurricane/Flair promo that somehow this leads to Hurricane dropping the mask and becoming more serious. It's a great comedy gimmick and all, but he's been at it for almost three years. I think it's time for a change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 So I figure you've got three options: Sign people only Kane's size so you have equal (but awful) matches Book the matches to be competive, size nonwithstanding. Kick a man in his head, his knees, drop him with a move, and size isn't that important. (This is obviously my choice) Just give Bautista a massive record, and hurricane loses. And no one will ever be surprised (boo! hiss!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2004 I gotta agree CC, if this leads to a Flair/Hurricane fued, I'm all for it. I just don't see that happening... But while I am a total Hurricane mark, I wouldn't mind seeing a change of pace. Get the Vertebreaker over like the Tombstone. The tombstone for Cruisers! If only Raw had a CW devision Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
