Future WWE plans

[algrim 0]

I think the majority would rather see Randy get the chance to have a run as champion than see an extended JBL title reign. I agree with most of you that Randy is not ready, but he's more deserving than JBL. The man couldn't be elevated to IC title status, and all of a sudden he's the champion? Fuck that.

[razazteca 0]

Bradshaw as Stan Hanson Jr. is still better than Randy Orton.

I don't agree. I don't think Orton is good enough or ready for a title, but his matches are better than JBL's. Even with Eddy's work with him, I still can't stand JBL as champion of anything. There is still upward growth for Orton. JBL topped out years ago and is crap right now.

 

BTW, associating a great worker like Stan Hansen with pure shit like JBL is just wrong on so many levels. JBL couldn't swallow Hansen's tobacco juice, much less be compared to him on any level. Since when did Hansen ever portray a rich cowboy?

At least Bradshaw "paid his dues" with company several years before getting the belt handed to him. Besides in the early days Justin Hawk Bradshaw did the "Moooooooooooooooooooo", longhorn hand signal and carried a bullrope with cowbell. Now you know WWE logic. Every Cowboy will be either be associated with Stan Hanson or the Blackjacks.

 

Orton on the other hand has not been with the company that long.....less than 5 years. Still needs to improve on several skills which includes his persona, ring skills, and the small intangibles that makes a great champion. It took him nearly 2 years of the "thrown down the fans throats" mega push just to get over.

[CanadianChick 0]

If this is accurate, I'm confused. They've built the Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Rez for 3 weeks about, and then they just drop it? The IC champion, and a Toronto native to boot, won't be on the card? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?

[2GOLD 0]

If this is accurate, I'm confused. They've built the Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Rez for 3 weeks about, and then they just drop it? The IC champion, and a Toronto native to boot, won't be on the card? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?

 

I've grown to just accept it.

 

Which probably isn't a good thing.

[Guest Fook]

Randy Orton and Bradshaw the World Champions? Is this a joke?

A joke brought to you by Vince McMahon and his crack-smoking writing team!!

Edited for accuracy.

[Australian Pride 0]

If this is accurate, I'm confused. They've built the Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Rez for 3 weeks about, and then they just drop it? The IC champion, and a Toronto native to boot, won't be on the card? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?

Rhyno/Tajiri vs La Res - probably the Heat match, which sucks, but is VERY WWE.

 

And other reports are stating a 3-way for Edges IC title with Batista/Jericho. That, at least, has potential.

[Downhome 0]

So what happens if this Orton being the champ blows up in their faces?

They keep going with it silly, forcing it on the fans, untill they accept it.

[AndrewTS 0]

"John Heidenreich and Paul Heyman would cost Undertaker the title since Heidenreich is getting the slot originally geared for the departed Mordecai."

 

The bookers are coked out of their fucking minds.

[Guest Fook]

If they're building to Orton/HHH at WM, does that mean Orton's going to hold the belt from August to March?

 

Considering that would be an awfully long reign and that SS is in Canada, I would suggest having Benoit win now to send the crowd happy and have a rematch at the September or October PPV where Orton takes the belt (most likely due to help from Evolution so HHH can say "you're only the champ cause of me").

[Downhome 0]

Or better yet, not have Orton win it at all right now.

[Australian Pride 0]

If they're building to Orton/HHH at WM, does that mean Orton's going to hold the belt from August to March?

I dont think so. WWE believe Orton is there new Rock, so they will probably have him do some quickfire title changes with someone like Jericho (wishful thinking!) and then after Royal Rumble he's all about the Game.

[slimm44 0]

I agree I think Orton will hold it for two months, then drop it until Wrestlemania, but thats wishful thinking, as is everything with WWE now a days

[Kizzo 0]

I'm surpised they are planning this far in advance.....

 

I"m all for new people getting a hold to the title...but only when its there time to shine......Orton isn't quite ready yet...of course its no surprise here that the WWE is rushing this thing.....instead of letting it take its own course....

[humongous2002 0]

It's sad that they book this crap in advance, a HHH/Orton Mania match doesn't sound like a moneymaker but I guess WWE management think that the kid is ready to be a main eventer for some reason.

[Guest Eugene`]

This John HOWEVERTHEFUCKYOUSPELLHISLASTNAME vs Undertaker feud just reminds me of 1995 when Undertaker was taking on all these huge midcarders, where he would just dominate.

[2GOLD 0]

Odds are Orton wins now, then at Survivor Series perhaps they do a four way match (Eugene, Triple H, Benoit and Orton) with Triple H telling Orton he'll help him keep the title in his hands. Then Triple H pedigrees him at SS to win the title and kicks Orton out of Evolution the next night on RAW when Randy has a problem with what Triple H did to him, possibly with a beatdown by Batista and Flair.

 

This would make it so Orton will have to work his way through Batista and Flair on his way to defeating heel champion Triple H at Wrestlemania.

 

And Triple H can pedigree Edge, Shelton and Jericho on the way to Wrestlemania before losing clean to Orton in the main event.

 

Least that makes a minor bit of sense.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I'm opposed to the Orton reign for 2 reasons:

 

1. He's at least a few years away from being credible.

 

2. He's being built up for Triple H to get a WM title win again.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

If this is accurate, I'm confused. They've built the Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Rez for 3 weeks about, and then they just drop it? The IC champion, and a Toronto native to boot, won't be on the card? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?

I think you've found one of the big problems with Raw right now. If it's not Diva shit or involving Evolution it won't get any real time on PPV. Their showdown would be better than anything else that Smackdown could put out.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Just because JBL and Taker are friends doesn't mean Taker would put over JBL... remember Kane and Taker are friends and Taker is 3500-1 over Kane.

[AndrewTS 0]

Just because JBL and Taker are friends doesn't mean Taker would put over JBL... remember Kane and Taker are friends and Taker is 3500-1 over Kane.

See also: Cena, Albert, Angle.

 

Of course, it is irrelevant if the Nathanreich rumor is true. Although, Turdreich getting squashed by Taker is fine by me if it means he's sent to Velocity afterwards.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Orton isn't ready for the title, but let's face it...besides Jericho, no-one will be happy over Benoit losing the title. And if he's involved in a feud with Edge, that puts him in 'IC Title contendership' by default. Which is going to cause MASSIVE backlash here. I still believe too much is being read into it, and it's less Benoit getting demoted and more Benoit feuding with the guy who happens to be IC Champion. Then again, I doubt anyone will agree.

 

Add into that Heidenreich vs. Taker, JBL as champion and Triple H being alive and it's going to be a LOOOONG summer in this folder.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Honestly, yall need to chill out.

 

I agree, I would perfer Randy getting it at Survivor Series. But there could be worse. And THIS COULD work.

 

I remember 2 years ago, you people were saying the excat same thing about Brock Lesnar. And it worked out fine for the WWE.

[TheBostonStrangler 0]

Here's an idea:

 

- Let's say they do the title change at Summerslam, thanks to an Edge heel turn. Earlier in the night, have Edge drop the IC strap to Batista in the three-way between Edge, Batista, and Jericho. Then, the IC strap is onto a new champ who needs a belt to really establish himself as a legit threat, rather than a giant bodyguard.

 

- Now, you have HHH continue his feud with Eugene, have Edge feud with Benoit, send Jericho after Randy Orton (use the battle royale as the impetus for the feud), Kane and Michaels feud, and bring back Shelton Benjamin to feud with Batista. That means that the No Mercy lineup is:

 

- Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho, World Title

- Chris Benoit vs. Edge

- HHH vs. Eugene (probably some kind of gimmick here)

- Shawn Michaels vs. Kane

- Batista vs. Shelton Benjamin

- Random tag match

- Random women's match

- Another random singles match (Matt Hardy vs. Christian?)

 

That seems like it takes care of most of RAW's problems. It lets Jericho regain a little credibility with a World Title program (and should make Orton look good in the process, since Jericho can go), it keeps Benoit out of an IC-title feud, it makes Batista look better, gives Benjamin something to come back and do, and Edge gets to look great in the ring again. The HHH/Eugene feud might be dragging by then, but they'll come up with something to work it along for a bit. Honestly, that lineup doesn't look bad, and it fits into the way that the WWE wants it to work out.

[Gert T 0]

Personally I'd like to see Benoit win at Summer Slam. Then on the next Raw, HHH can challenge Benoit for the next shot, angering Orton who says to HHH, "I've only lost to him once, how many times have you lost to him, and you get the shot?" That way they can plant the seeds but let it linger a bit, and have Orton win the title at the October PPV.

 

The Edge turn just comes out of nowhere, considering they haven't tagged in awhile. The only way I think it could work is Monday have Edge bitch about how he's beat Orton twice, so he deserves a title shot. Benoit beats him later that night cleanly. Edge can then cost Benoit the title at Summerslam and claim he did it because he knows he can beat Orton.

[The Tino Standard 0]

I remember 2 years ago, you people were saying the excat same thing about Brock Lesnar. And it worked out fine for the WWE.

Worked out fine? Two years after Lesnar became the youngest champion in company history, he's not even on the roster anymore. He's making $85,000 to be on an NFL team practice squad.

 

The fact of the matter is they handed everything to Lesnar way too fast. He was a guy that didn't seem to take pro wrestling too seriously and certainly didn't give a shit about associating any prestiege to winning championships. Handing him the world championship 4 months after he debuted did NOTHING to help that. I, for one, think he'd have been a lot more appreciative of what it takes to be a world champion if he had to earn his stripes and get legitimately over with the fans to the point where they were begging for him to be the champion (think Austin in '98).

 

Now, I'm not saying Orton would end up the same way if he's given the belt too soon. But I do think to say that after making Lesnar the world champion too early everything turned out "fine for the WWE" is a bit off.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

The WWE championship should have more meaning.

 

You see when some people win it for the first time (like Chris Benoit), and how emotional they get, because they've actually worked their ass off to get it and it finally payed off.

 

Then they hand it to fairly new-comers like Lesnar and Orton, and they don't really give a shit...

 

I forget what I was trying to say, but I'm sure you get the idea.

[King Cucaracha 0]

The WWE championship should have more meaning.

 

You see when some people win it for the first time (like Chris Benoit), and how emotional they get, because they've actually worked their ass off to get it and it finally payed off.

 

Then they hand it to fairly new-comers like Lesnar and Orton, and they don't really give a shit...

1) Orton will be winning it for the first-time.

 

2) Orton will be emotional about it. Obviously not on Benoit's levels, but that's something totally different.

 

3) It shouldn't be rule that someone has to wrestle for 18 years and around the world before they become World Champion.

 

He was a guy that didn't seem to take pro wrestling too seriously and certainly didn't give a shit about associating any prestiege to winning championships. Handing him the world championship 4 months after he debuted did NOTHING to help that.

 

Say what you will about Lesnar, but giving him the belt meant more to it's image than anything else they did over the previous few months. It went from holder to holder non-stop...we had Hogan holding it, the longest reign was roughly a couple of months and the top contender at one point was Jeff Hardy. Lesnar brought stability to the belt, had great matches and got the fans' approval.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

The WWE championship should have more meaning.

 

You see when some people win it for the first time (like Chris Benoit), and how emotional they get, because they've actually worked their ass off to get it and it finally payed off.

 

Then they hand it to fairly new-comers like Lesnar and Orton, and they don't really give a shit...

1) Orton will be winning it for the first-time.

 

2) Orton will be emotional about it. Obviously not on Benoit's levels, but that's something totally different.

 

3) It shouldn't be rule that someone has to wrestle for 18 years and around the world before they become World Champion.

I just think the WWE title should only be held by the best of the best of the best. Obviously that won't happen, as it already has a history to it but..

 

In my ideal world anyways, the IC title would be what the World title is now.. and the world title would only be held by the few outstanding wrestlers who have worked hard to earn it.

 

Think of how much of an honor winning the belt would be...

 

Of course, this is just my opinion.

 

Edit: I know it's unrealistic as there aren't that many "great" wrestlers, but it's just a thought.

[RHR 0]

I'm still wondering about the whole HHH-Eugene thing. I mean, is Eugene really ready for a feud with Trips? I think a nice good guy stable vs. bad guy stable at SurSer would work great, but, if Edge turns, how would that work? Personally, they are peaking too early with Orton and Eugene. They really need to give months of tension between the parties involved.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

I remember 2 years ago, you people were saying the excat same thing about Brock Lesnar. And it worked out fine for the WWE.

Worked out fine? Two years after Lesnar became the youngest champion in company history, he's not even on the roster anymore. He's making $85,000 to be on an NFL team practice squad.

 

The fact of the matter is they handed everything to Lesnar way too fast. He was a guy that didn't seem to take pro wrestling too seriously and certainly didn't give a shit about associating any prestiege to winning championships. Handing him the world championship 4 months after he debuted did NOTHING to help that. I, for one, think he'd have been a lot more appreciative of what it takes to be a world champion if he had to earn his stripes and get legitimately over with the fans to the point where they were begging for him to be the champion (think Austin in '98).

 

Now, I'm not saying Orton would end up the same way if he's given the belt too soon. But I do think to say that after making Lesnar the world champion too early everything turned out "fine for the WWE" is a bit off.

Say what you want about Lesnar, but he was a very good WWE Champion. And it did turn out alright for the WWE, because Lesnar did draw alot of attention. I heard people who aren't even wrestling fans talk about Brock Lesnar at school and such.

 

Lesnar was made a credible champion, because The Rock made him to be in the Summerslam match.

 

Benoit can do the excat same thing for Randy Orton.