Eugene going over HHH at Summerslam?

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

The more I think about it, the more I can see Eugene beating HHH at Summerslam.

 

I mean they are looking to turn HHH face, to get him kicked out of Evolution. What better way then him losing to a retard.

 

The rest of Evolution would be embarassed by this lost, causing him to get thrown out of the group.

[Steviekick 0]

It's a good idea to further the HHH/Evolution split, but I fear for what it means in the long run. By putting him over HHH and making Eugene be that much more of a legitimate character, that means he will be around longer. I really don't see why they should bother making a comedy wrestler look that good.

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

I kinda expect HHH to JOB at Summerslam. You gotta figure this program will last longer than a month, so Eugene needs to get a cheesy win, and HHH will continue to go after him.

 

Maybe they'll do a double turn down the line with them. HHH can turn face, and Eugene can reveal he's not really "special". HHH then goes over, and by that time they can start the push towards HHH vs Orton for Mania.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

It's a good idea to further the HHH/Evolution split, but I fear for what it means in the long run. By putting him over HHH and making Eugene be that much more of a legitimate character, that means he will be around longer. I really don't see why they should bother making a comedy wrestler look that good.

I kinda think, they are going to make Eugene turn heel in the future, and revel he is not really challenged.

 

So really it's not a short-term character. They will say Eugene pretended to act retarded so he could get in the WWE,

[Slickster 0]

I can see HHH getting the job back the next month at Unforgiven.

[Steviekick 0]

I do see them making Eugene say he lied. I think it would be better if they just gradually made him smarter and more evil, then never mention that he was special again. Like what they did with Bubba Ray Dudley in ECW.

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

I'd love to see Eugene show how he's not really special and insult the people for being so gullible. If that turns Triple H face in the process, I guess it wouldn't be so bad.

[Steviekick 0]

I'd love to see Eugene show how he's not really special and insult the people for being so gullible. If that turns Triple H face in the process, I guess it wouldn't be so bad.

I just don't want to see HHH as a face. Don't waste Eugene telling the truth on him.

[deancoles 0]

I'd love to see Eugene show how he's not really special and insult the people for being so gullible. If that turns Triple H face in the process, I guess it wouldn't be so bad.

I just don't want to see HHH as a face. Don't waste Eugene telling the truth on him.

This is interesting, saw it on 411mania.com

 

The plan right now appears to be to put the WWE Title on Randy Orton at Summerslam and have him hold the belt until WrestleMania in 2005 where he would defend against, and likely lose, to Triple H.

 

Everyone backstage views Orton as "the real deal" and most have been impressed with how much he has improved and how quickly he has done it. WWE also has a ready made big money program between Orton and Triple H.

 

WWE likes that Orton can work as a face or a heel, and that he has come up during the brand split, meaning that he has lots of fresh feuds left with guys currently on the Smackdown roster.

 

WWE is also planning to revisit the Orton/Edge feud later, but with Orton as the face and Edge as the heel. Orton will also likely feud with Ric Flair and Batista soon, following his split from Evolution.

 

Credit: Torch Newsletter

 

If it does happen I can't see Orton getting cheered against HHH,Flair or Batista.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

I do see them making Eugene say he lied. I think it would be better if they just gradually made him smarter and more evil, then never mention that he was special again. Like what they did with Bubba Ray Dudley in ECW.

I dissagree.

 

I think Eugene reveling he was not really challenged could be storyline of the year. He could get extreme heel heat, and if worked right it could turn Eugene into a instant main eventer.

 

Remember the Foley/Austin fued in spring of 1998? Where Vince turned Foley from a dirty stupid i don't give a fuck and put him in a tux and gave him two front teeth and Foley put his hair in a ponytail?

 

I think Eugene should dress like that after reveling he isn't special. That will get him over for sure.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Once Orton turns face, I can see him getting heavily cheered if he maintained the same character (a la Rock).

[tbondrage99 0]

Until Eugene does turn heel I will want him to get the crap beat out of him at every turn, but thats probally just me. As for Orton as champ I would much rather see Benoit hold on to it for a while longer but I'll buy Orton as champ long before I'll buy Bradshaw as champ. In my opinion as long as the belt is on Bradshaw its the #2 belt on Smackdown behind the U.S. Title.

[Guest Loss]

Orton winning the title at this point is much like Diesel winning the title in 1995. He's given a huge midcard push where, after initial failure and months of trying, he finally starts to get over, and they immediately push him too fast. In both cases, waiting six months to put the belt on the guy would have meant more, and in both cases (if Orton turns face anyway), the run doesn't work because the character changes too much after getting the belt. Also, in both cases, not nearly enough build prior to getting the strap.

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

Once Orton turns face, I can see him getting heavily cheered if he maintained the same character (a la Rock).

Maybe if Orton had something that distinguished himself from any other of the cocky, bland midcard heels the WWE has, but now? I'd say not a chance.

 

Rock had the promos and the Peoples' Elbow that the fans were eating up with a spoon. Orton honestly has nothing aside from a push and a stable.

[tbondrage99 0]

Once Orton turns face, I can see him getting heavily cheered if he maintained the same character (a la Rock).

Maybe if Orton had something that distinguished himself from any other of the cocky, bland midcard heels the WWE has, but now? I'd say not a chance.

 

Rock had the promos and the Peoples' Elbow that the fans were eating up with a spoon. Orton honestly has nothing aside from a push and a stable.

Well Orton does have that Legend Killer thing I guess....but I could care less about that.

[Guest Black Lightning]

I think Eugene reveling he was not really challenged could be storyline of the year. He could get extreme heel heat, and if worked right it could turn Eugene into a instant main eventer.

But the problem with that, is that EVERYONE will see it coming. From the first segment Eugene had on RAW, people were calling for that to happen. And I'm pretty sure anyone who has watched Just Shoot Me would see it coming as well. It's just too predictable to be as "Earth shattering" as people seem to think it will be.

[Guest Trivia247]

the only way I see a possible hint of HHH losing to Eugene if there is a stipulation of a one way loser leave town, If Eugene loses he can never come back to Raw or Smackdown.

 

Gives reasons for Eugene to win better than a straight match.

[Steviekick 0]

I think Eugene reveling he was not really challenged could be storyline of the year. He could get extreme heel heat, and if worked right it could turn Eugene into a instant main eventer.

But the problem with that, is that EVERYONE will see it coming. From the first segment Eugene had on RAW, people were calling for that to happen. And I'm pretty sure anyone who has watched Just Shoot Me would see it coming as well. It's just too predictable to be as "Earth shattering" as people seem to think it will be.

Eugene wants green quarter!!

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Chicken pot chicken pot pie!

[Slingshot Suplex 0]

A Eugene heel turn should probably also include Bischoff being in on the "retard ruse"

[Steviekick 0]

Maybe have Eugene get badly injured and forced to retire...

 

and his older non retarded brother Nick Dinsmore gets a job with the company!

 

Basically, just have him change his look up...new haircut and clean shaven.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Orton winning the title at this point is much like Diesel winning the title in 1995. He's given a huge midcard push where, after initial failure and months of trying, he finally starts to get over, and they immediately push him too fast. In both cases, waiting six months to put the belt on the guy would have meant more, and in both cases (if Orton turns face anyway), the run doesn't work because the character changes too much after getting the belt. Also, in both cases, not nearly enough build prior to getting the strap.

Actually the Rock's career mirrors this exactly as well. Right down to getting the World Title before he was ready for it.

 

Scary, no?

[Papacita 0]

Orton winning the title at this point is much like Diesel winning the title in 1995. He's given a huge midcard push where, after initial failure and months of trying, he finally starts to get over, and they immediately push him too fast. In both cases, waiting six months to put the belt on the guy would have meant more, and in both cases (if Orton turns face anyway), the run doesn't work because the character changes too much after getting the belt. Also, in both cases, not nearly enough build prior to getting the strap.

Actually the Rock's career mirrors this exactly as well. Right down to getting the World Title before he was ready for it.

 

Scary, no?

I think Rock was ready for the belt when he got it. Not only was he over as hell, but from SummerSlam to Survivor Series, he was built up as a ME player so that when he got the belt, it wasn't really a stretch. While Orton may be as popular as Rock was in the summer of 98, he hasn't really been built as an ME player. They just snatched him up out of the I-C division (WAY too soon, IMO) and are tossing him in the ME off the bat.

[Shanghai Kid 0]

Orton is NOWHERE near as over as the Rock was in the Summer of 98.

 

Rock was getting the most heel heat of anybody in Summer 98, and by Summerslam all that heat turned into face heat.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Orton is NOWHERE near as over as the Rock was in the Summer of 98.

 

Rock was getting the most heel heat of anybody in Summer 98, and by Summerslam all that heat turned into face heat.

Nobody's that over. Crowds were much bigger and hotter at that point.

 

Orton is the logical equivelent.

[Guest Bad Brad Jacobs]

You can't turn Eugene heel. Wouldn't Bischoff KNOW if one of is own relatives was retarded or not?

[Guest Chumpstain]

I think Rock was ready for the belt when he got it.  Not only was he over as hell, but from SummerSlam to Survivor Series, he was built up as a ME player so that when he got the belt, it wasn't really a stretch.

They really built the Rock up by having him lose to Mark Henry on PPV between SummerSlam and Survivor Series, didn't they?

 

No, Orton doesn't have the catchphrases or the moves to pop the crowd like the Rock does, but he's still been getting positive reactions lately when he's not supposed to be. Until he actually goes face, we can't know how good he'd be at it. Yeah, he was lacklustre last time he was face, but that was about two years ago, even if it doesn't feel that long.

[deancoles 0]

I think Rock was ready for the belt when he got it.  Not only was he over as hell, but from SummerSlam to Survivor Series, he was built up as a ME player so that when he got the belt, it wasn't really a stretch.

They really built the Rock up by having him lose to Mark Henry on PPV between SummerSlam and Survivor Series, didn't they?

 

In that time He got wins over guys like The Undertaker,Kane and Ken Shamrock and he also attacked Vince McMahon(which only the main eventers did) so his build up was good and the Survivor Series cemented his main event poistion.

[Guest Trivia247]

makes you wonder if we will ever see someone playing Eugene's mom.....would have loved if she appeared and overheard Bischoff trying to plan to Hurt ol Eugene and she slaps the taste out of his mouth..

 

He just seems to go off on his tangents with no retribution...

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I mean they are looking to turn HHH face, to get him kicked out of Evolution. What better way then him losing to a retard.

 

That's a good way of pointing it out. I'd rather see HHH go over though.