Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted August 15, 2004 http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0408/14/avengers.htm So the new lineup will be: Captain America Iron Man Wolverine Spider-Man Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman) Sentry and a mystery person I don't think I really like the new lineup. Spider-Man has never been a team player and Wolverine doesn't fit in with the PR friendly image. I'm indifferent to Drew and Sentry. Why can Wolverine be in 3 million team books but fucking Beast can't have another stint on the Avengers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2004 Wolverine in another book? *Retch.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2004 I won't mind Wolverine's membership, but only if he's relinquishing his X-Men duties. He would propably be the biggest "loose cannon" in any super hero team ever, especially with the Avengers goodie reputation on Marvel earth. Taking in a really twisted, violent mutant in really shakes up the status quo. Cap and Iron Man I really don't mind, as they are the usual. Spidey is an interesting choice, but doesn't make sense. I do like Jessica Drew being added, but I hope that doesn' mean that Alias and the Pulse is cancelled. But two Spider-powered members on the same team is a litle questionable. Sentry is a very interesting character, being that he's one of the most powerful members of the Marvel Universe, but very reclusive and having low self esteem. It is a very odd line up, especially since Marvel said that they wanted the Avenges to be more like the JLA in DC...the A-list heroes. They are in a sense with Spidey, Wolv, Cap, and IM, but then it drops down to C-listers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2004 I do like Jessica Drew being added, but I hope that doesn' mean that Alias and the Pulse is cancelled. But two Spider-powered members on the same team is a litle questionable. Jessica Drew isn't Alias. Jessica Jones is Alias. Though technically Jones is a rip-off of Drew because Bendis originally wanted to make Drew be Alias but had to create a bastardized version of Drew in order to get Marvel to let him make Alias be a mature audience book (since Marvel didn't want one of their existing characters being revealed to like taking it up the ass). That being said, the fact that Cage is on the line-up is clue enough that Bendis's Anal Sex loving Mary Sue will be a major part of the book. It's the only reason Cage is on the team..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SpiderFan Report post Posted August 15, 2004 I'm thinking Wolvie and Spidey will only be there for a few issues, and then realize it isn't working for them, and be gone. At least, I hope that's what happens, since neither is suited to a book like this, and both are overexposed as it is. Personally, I'm alot more interested in Brubaker doing Cap, and Ellis doing Iron Man. Both should be pretty good, considering the writers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2004 I do like Jessica Drew being added, but I hope that doesn' mean that Alias and the Pulse is cancelled. But two Spider-powered members on the same team is a litle questionable. Jessica Drew isn't Alias. Jessica Jones is Alias. Though technically Jones is a rip-off of Drew because Bendis originally wanted to make Drew be Alias but had to create a bastardized version of Drew in order to get Marvel to let him make Alias be a mature audience book (since Marvel didn't want one of their existing characters being revealed to like taking it up the ass). That being said, the fact that Cage is on the line-up is clue enough that Bendis's Anal Sex loving Mary Sue will be a major part of the book. It's the only reason Cage is on the team..... I'm so confused. I never knew that Jones and Drew were seperate. Luke Cage is on the team, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SpiderFan Report post Posted August 15, 2004 Luke Cage is on the team, too? According to Wizard he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted August 15, 2004 I had heard that Luke Cage was going to be on there but didn't see him listed in the article above. And what's up with Wolverine on the team. I had heard for years that the higher ups wouldn't let Beast be used because he was in the X-Books. So why are they putting Wolverine in his 4th team book? Is he teaching at Xaviers, doing X-stuff and being an Avenger all at the same time while still doing his solo stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2004 Luke Cage is cool, BUTT definitely not one of the mightiest heroes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2004 I don't think I really like the new lineup. Spider-Man has never been a team player and Wolverine doesn't fit in with the PR friendly image. I'm indifferent to Drew and Sentry. Why can Wolverine be in 3 million team books but fucking Beast can't have another stint on the Avengers? Spider-Man, at least, IS an Avenger. And since Wolverine = $$$ he's Marvel's bicycle. I had heard that Luke Cage was going to be on there but didn't see him listed in the article above. I've said on the Nexus that Cage isn't needed as long as Rage is a reservist. He's more interesting anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2004 This lineup is ass. Man - after winning me over a few years back with the whole Marvel Knights concept, Marvel is really trying hard to make me - and probably lots of comic fans - hate them again. It's working so far! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted August 16, 2004 To be fair, Spidey's been a reserve Avenger for a while now. He may not always enjoy the team thing, but if there were a situation where Peter saw that he was neccessary, I think he'd stick it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JoeyStyles Report post Posted August 16, 2004 Wolverine is another book? Sheesh, what's next? Wolverine joining the Power Pack? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2004 I don't get this, first Marvel tries to make the Avengers a marvel superstar team by killing off the crappier or lesser known members, but then decide to put in people like Spider-woman and Luke Cage? Kind of defeats the purpose on why they're doing this whole disassembled thing. You'd think they would try and pimp Daredevil in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I was about to say I would think Daredevil would appreciate being an Avenger. By the way, what ever happened to the Vision(he was a cool character) and at any point did any member of the Fantastic Four join the Avengers? One other thing, since they seem to offer emembership to just about everyone, did they ever try to get Punisher to join? I mean, they once tried to get the Hulk for God's sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SpiderFan Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I mean, they once tried to get the Hulk for God's sake. Hulk was in the Avengers. A founding member in fact, along with Thor, Iron Man, Wasp and Ant Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I was about to say I would think Daredevil would appreciate being an Avenger. By the way, what ever happened to the Vision(he was a cool character) and at any point did any member of the Fantastic Four join the Avengers? One other thing, since they seem to offer emembership to just about everyone, did they ever try to get Punisher to join? I mean, they once tried to get the Hulk for God's sake. I don't think Daredevil would work. In the Marvel Universe he's a fairly small timer and rarely comes out of Hell's Kitchen to fight crime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 To answer your question, MOM, everybody but the Human Torch has been a member of the Avengers. The Thing was a part-time member in the West Coast Avengers while reed and Sue were members from Avengers(vol. 1) 300-303. As for the Vision, if you've read Avengers #500, you know what happened to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
converge241 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 W.................T...........................F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Lame. But who knows, maybe I'll download the issue and read it anyways. :-P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 This line-up reeks of the New Defenders. Bendis pussed out in the grand scheme of things and missed his Scourge quota for killing folks off. This line-up looks dumb since half the team is composed of loner's (Spidey and Wolvie) and people fans have never cared about (Spider-Woman in any incarnation and Marvel's "SURPRISE GOTCHA~!" character Sentry). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Since Bendis' Avengers is all but dead on arrival, who do you think will next get the task of making the Avengers cool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SpiderFan Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Since Bendis' Avengers is all but dead on arrival, who do you think will next get the task of making the Avengers cool? Busiek. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Since Bendis' Avengers is all but dead on arrival, who do you think will next get the task of making the Avengers cool? Busiek. Again. Along with George Perez. Greatest Creative Team Ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Since Bendis' Avengers is all but dead on arrival, who do you think will next get the task of making the Avengers cool? I don't think he'd want it, but give Waid a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I'd like to see Waid writing Avengers, but it's really unlikely at this time. I do see them letting him have a shot once Quesada gets canned. What about JMS? He'll need something to do once he gets bored of Dr. Strange...which EVERYONE does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 As much as I am a fan of JMS, he'd be all wrong for Avengers. All wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 As much as I am a fan of JMS, he'd be all wrong for Avengers. All wrong. What if the Avengers were stuck on a space station with the Kree, Shi'ar and Skrulls? Call me crazy, but I think JMS could work with that btw Supreme Power #12 is really good. What's bad is that I want to switch to TPB, but I don't know if I can wait the 7 months for #13-18... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 btw Supreme Power #12 is really good. What's bad is that I want to switch to TPB, but I don't know if I can wait the 7 months for #13-18... Patience, little grasshopper, patience... BTW, I still have my Avengers #500 sitting there waiting to be read, but with all the shit being reported I've still to muster the strenght to pick it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Since Bendis' Avengers is all but dead on arrival, who do you think will next get the task of making the Avengers cool? Busiek. Again. Alternatively, Fabian Nicieza or Keith Giffen/DeMatthies/McGuire (AKA the guys behing the late 80s JLA and the "Formerly Known As Justice League" mini). Hell, Tom DeFalco would be a good choice. As for major no-nos: JMS: He's wrecked Spiderman with his obsession to make Spidey a magic character and the current God-Awful Gwen Stacy had twins storyline. Keep him away from the Avengers. Mark Waid: Again, keep him away unless Waid agrees to work with an editor who will keep his egotism to a minimum.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites