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[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

I doubt they would play that game unless a playoff berth were at stake. There is a precident with the 2000 AL West.

[Guest Anglesault]

Ok.  Explain how that works.  MLB did not make a formal request to the Devil Rays to change their travel arrangements, and a legitimate weather concern caused them to reschedule the game.

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

And since when wasn't there a formal request?

Edited September 6, 2004 by Anglesault

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

It's easier to get lodging back home than find accomodations on the road.

 

And since when wasn't there a formal request?

 

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/09/06/Rays/Ray..._delays_i.shtml

 

But it's not quite that easy. While MLB might have suggested the Rays leave, it is unlikely there was a formal request.

[Fökai 0]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1875760

Devil Rays arrive; twinbill becomes night game

 

NEW YORK -- The New York Yankees asked the commissioner's office to award them a forfeit over Tampa Bay after the Devil Rays failed to arrive in time for the scheduled start Monday because of travel problems in Florida due to Hurricane Frances.

 

The doubleheader was changed to a single game and the start time, pushed back Sunday from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m., was reset for 7 p.m. The Devil Rays, who reported to Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg at 8 a.m., left the ballpark at 1:05 p.m., departed Tampa International Airport at 2:40 p.m. and arrived at LaGuardia Airport at 5:25 p.m.

 

"The rule states that if your team is here and ready to play, and the other team isn't here and not ready to play, there should be a forfeit, and we believe there should be a forfeit," Yankees president Randy Levine said.

 

"There are no plans to reschedule any games until this issue is worked out," he said.

 

Levine said the commissioner's office had been told by the Devil Rays that Tampa Bay would head to New York late Friday or Saturday. Levine called for an investigation by baseball, and said that if the facts as the Yankees understood them were true, the game should be forfeited. Alternatively, Levine said the game should be rescheduled for Oct. 4 -- the day after the regular season is scheduled to end -- if it's necessary to decide a postseason race.

 

A forfeit didn't appear to be likely.

 

"Given the stage of the season we are in, and the exciting pennant races, it is critical that we do everything to decide the championship on the field," commissioner Bud Selig said in a statement.

 

Tampa Bay's home games against Detroit on Saturday and Sunday were postponed, and the Tigers returned home after Friday night's games.

 

"There were plenty of opportunities to get out of Tampa on Saturday. The airports were open until 3 or 4 o'clock." Levine said.

 

Devil Rays spokesman Rick Vaughn said the Devil Rays had never intended to leave before Monday.

 

"The only thing that entered our mind was being with our families during the hurricane," he said.

 

The Yankee Stadium gates opened at 11 a.m., and about 1,000 fans were in the stands on the sunny afternoon when an announcement was made at 12:45 p.m. that the doubleheader would not start on time.

 

"We had planned on being here all day anyway," Yankees captain Derek Jeter said. "I don't see how we could play two games today now."

 

Ray Zincone, a 29-year-old from West Warwick, R.I., drove down to New York on Monday morning with his wife, Sheila, and 7-year-old son, Raymond.

 

"I would like to stay if there's a chance to play," he said.

 

The Yankees reported to Yankee Stadium at noon for the doubleheader.

 

"Let's get a grill," Yankees pitcher Mike Mussina said. "Hot dogs and burgers on the field."

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

It's worth noting that Aubrey Huff was unable to join the team, so the Devil Rays are without their best hitter.

[Guest Anglesault]

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

It's easier to get lodging back home than find accomodations on the road.

 

There was certainly something available to them. MLB insisted that it was willing to pay hotel fair.

 

And it's nice that your extremely bias source couldn't even completely deny a formal request.

[Fökai 0]

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

It's easier to get lodging back home than find accomodations on the road.

 

There was certainly something available to them. MLB insisted that it was willing to pay hotel fair.

 

And it's nice that your extremely bias source couldn't even completely deny a formal request.

Considering that the Commissioner himself insisted that the game be played, I doubt there was any type of formal request from the MLB office.

[Guest Anglesault]

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

It's easier to get lodging back home than find accomodations on the road.

 

There was certainly something available to them. MLB insisted that it was willing to pay hotel fair.

 

And it's nice that your extremely bias source couldn't even completely deny a formal request.

Considering that the Commissioner himself insisted that the game be played, I doubt there was any type of formal request from the MLB office.

That means very little. Without busting out a Billy Martin quote, One side has lied repeatedly for years about everything under the sun, and the other can't get their damn story straight. The Devil Rays right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

[Guest MikeSC]

That means very little. Without busting out a Billy Martin quote, One side has lied repeatedly for years about everything under the sun, and the other can't get their damn story straight. The Devil Rays right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

We forgot, the Yanks are the bastion of truth and honesty amidst the maelstrom of BS that is MLB.

-=Mike

[mike546 0]

I don't really care anymore. Were winning 5-1.

 

And not to brag or anything, but and lineup change Joe has made latley turns to gold. First Jeter, now A-Rod.

[Guest Anglesault]

That means very little. Without busting out a Billy Martin quote, One side has lied repeatedly for years about everything under the sun, and the other can't get their damn story straight. The Devil Rays right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

We forgot, the Yanks are the bastion of truth and honesty amidst the maelstrom of BS that is MLB.

-=Mike

Hey, the Yankees are just sitting back and watching this mess. They're the good guys in this whole debacle.

 

And when they do lie, they get their liars on the same page. It's almost comical to watch TB higher ups contradict each other repeatedly.

 

Finally, Selig may be the most dishonest man in baseball.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Let us assumed the game is not played. Obviously it would not matter unless the Yankees were either a half game ahead or a half game back at the end of the season. If the Yankees were a half game back, they probably would not make up the game, as MLB goes to head-to-head matchups to determine the division champions in that situation, and the Yankees need to win five of six from the Sox to get the edge there. And if they were to win five of six, they probably would win the division outright. So the only way this game is necessary is if the Yankees are exactly a half game ahead at the end of the season.

[Mik 0]

Easy now, Al. Logic may be no good here.

[Fökai 0]

That means very little. Without busting out a Billy Martin quote, One side has lied repeatedly for years about everything under the sun, and the other can't get their damn story straight. The Devil Rays right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

We forgot, the Yanks are the bastion of truth and honesty amidst the maelstrom of BS that is MLB.

-=Mike

Hey, the Yankees are just sitting back and watching this mess. They're the good guys in this whole debacle.

There are GOOD GUYS in this type of situation?

 

Wait, did I miss Aubrey Huff hitting Derek Jeter in the back of the knee with a metal pipe after batting practice?

[Guest Anglesault]

That means very little. Without busting out a Billy Martin quote, One side has lied repeatedly for years about everything under the sun, and the other can't get their damn story straight. The Devil Rays right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

We forgot, the Yanks are the bastion of truth and honesty amidst the maelstrom of BS that is MLB.

-=Mike

Hey, the Yankees are just sitting back and watching this mess. They're the good guys in this whole debacle.

There are GOOD GUYS in this type of situation?

They're the only guys who haven't contradicted themselves at least once, and they have done a hell of a lot of shit they didn't have to do to accomodate baseball and Tampa Bay.

[Bruiser Chong 0]

Johnny Damon is out for the fourth game in a row. He's listed as day-to-day after hurting his pinkie in the finale of the series with the Angels. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. At first, it was just supposed to be a day off, but people are getting paranoid now that this is his fourth game in a row he hasn't played in.

[the max 0]

I'm not paranoid about it at all.

 

Let him rest now that the Red Sox have Roberts. It gives Roberts some playing time to get comfortable, it gives Kapler some playing time to repay him for everything he's done this year, and it gives Jesus some time off to heal before the big stretch.

[Guest Anglesault]

it gives Kapler some playing time

I just can't read that without laughing. The whole situation is so fucked up and possibly corrupt that it's funny.

[the max 0]

I hated Kapler at the beginning of the season, but I'm fine with him now. At least he keeps a good attitude about not starting all the time, he gives them very good defense in right field with good speed on the bases.

 

I fail to see the humor in the situation, as Kapler was originally expected to be a bench player, a defensive replacement in the late innings, but with Trot's injury, he's had more playing time and has done fairly well. No earth-shattering numbers, but it's not expected of him.

[Guest Anglesault]

I fail to see the humor in the situation, as Kapler was originally expected to be a bench player, a defensive replacement in the late innings, but with Trot's injury, he's had more playing time and has done fairly well. No earth-shattering numbers, but it's not expected of him.

The humor in the situation is that he (and Trot but really, it doesn't matter) is the first person off the top of my head that I can remember getting a suspension totally killed.

 

I wasn't referring to how he played, just that he is playing at all.

[the max 0]

Why would either guy be suspended in the first place? Wasn't Kapler attacked by Tanyon "Hulkamania" Sturtze? He should be suspended for that?

[JHawk 0]

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

It's easier to get lodging back home than find accomodations on the road.

 

There was certainly something available to them. MLB insisted that it was willing to pay hotel fair.

 

And it's nice that your extremely bias source couldn't even completely deny a formal request.

I don't think money was even an issue where that was concerned.

 

Have you ever tried to book a hotel room in NYC? Not likely because you live in the area. Try finding a room for four people on short notice. Tough, but you can do it. Try doing it on a holiday weekend. Not likely. Try it for 75 players, coaches, and other assorted staff. It ain't happening because there aren't enough vacancies.

 

Why is it that every time a rule gets bent even the slightest in the favor of the Yankees, it's a perfectly acceptable exception, but as soon as your Yankees get "screwed" you're calling for people's heads on a stick?

[Guest Anglesault]

Because it's not all that legitimate. The Tigers somehow got their asses out of the state before the storm hit. The storm absolutely did not prevent Tampa Bay from getting here. The Devil Rays made the decision not to leave. And with every decision, there are consequences.

 

It's easier to get lodging back home than find accomodations on the road.

 

There was certainly something available to them. MLB insisted that it was willing to pay hotel fair.

 

And it's nice that your extremely bias source couldn't even completely deny a formal request.

I don't think money was even an issue where that was concerned.

 

Have you ever tried to book a hotel room in NYC? Not likely because you live in the area. Try finding a room for four people on short notice. Tough, but you can do it. Try doing it on a holiday weekend. Not likely. Try it for 75 players, coaches, and other assorted staff. It ain't happening because there aren't enough vacancies.

MLB wouldn't offer to pay for a place that had no vacancies. They had found something.

 

Why is it that every time a rule gets bent even the slightest in the favor of the Yankees, it's a perfectly acceptable exception, but as soon as your Yankees get "screwed" you're calling for people's heads on a stick?

 

I do that? Perhaps you can point out such a rule.

[Guest Anglesault]

Why would either guy be suspended in the first place? Wasn't Kapler attacked by Tanyon "Hulkamania" Sturtze? He should be suspended for that?

If A-Rod gets suspended for getting slapped by Fairitek.

[JHawk 0]

Well, there was that time a couple of years ago in the playoffs where Jeter made that terrific play at the plate, and the umpire forgot the rule that says if the runner touches the plate before he's tagged out, the run counts.

 

Or are you going to spin that around and say "Well, I MEANT rules about things OFF the field" like you tend to do?

[Guest Anglesault]

Well, there was that time a couple of years ago in the playoffs where Jeter made that terrific play at the plate, and the umpire forgot the rule that says if the runner touches the plate before he's tagged out, the run counts.

I have no clue which play you could be referring to.

[JHawk 0]

Against the A's. I think Giambi was the runner, actually. They only replay the damn thing every five minutes during the playoffs.

[Guest Anglesault]

Against the A's. I think Giambi was the runner, actually. They only replay the damn thing every five minutes during the playoffs.

Oh, you mean the play where multiple replays showed Jeremy Giambi to be out by half a step?

 

Good for you.

[the max 0]

Why would either guy be suspended in the first place? Wasn't Kapler attacked by Tanyon "Hulkamania" Sturtze? He should be suspended for that?

If A-Rod gets suspended for getting slapped by Fairitek.

Yeah, because A-Rod didn't attack Tek back or anything...

 

Kapler was just standing there, but Sturtze went fucking insane.

[Bored 0]

I absolutely hate being the one to correct people on that play but Posada's glove grazed the back of That Fat Fuck's calf just before he touched home. Insanely close play that in real time I think nine times out of ten the umpire probably would call the runner safe but, unfortunently for the A's, the ump made the right call.