The OAO "Does Booker T have a chance in Hell of

[iliketurtles 0]

Booker T will bring viewers back?

 

That was a funny statement.

If Booker beats Bradshaw for the title, I'll start following Smackdown again.

 

Remember his matches with Angle in 2001? Hell yeah. I want that good stuff again.

 

Booker should of gotten the title in early 2003, but that's in the past. Getting him the WWE title would be nice, even as a transition to Angle.

[bob_barron 0]

It's pretty sad- I went to the Survivor Series in 2002 just to see Booker get the belt.

 

Now if he gets the belt at Survivor Series- I won't really care

[Promoter 0]

It's pretty sad- I went to the Survivor Series in 2002 just to see Booker get the belt.

 

Now if he gets the belt at Survivor Series- I won't really care

I think they have made Booker T into Lex Choker myself. I bet more fans expect him to choke again at Survivor Series. If he goes over he is going over a lame champion and most might not care. I think coming up short at the big Mania card last year really damaged his stock with fans. I mean Goldust broke the tag team up to allow Booker to go on to bigger things. He had the legacy of the wcw on his back and also had to show Triple H up for being racist in the storyline and he lost. I think they really messed up Booker there. That was his time to recuperate what he lost during the Invasion angle where he wasn't even in the unification tournament(see what I mean they ruined him from get go) when he was the real last reigning wcw champion(why no feud with wwf champion Austin?).

[snuffbox 0]

I would say no...but JBL, Benoit, and Guerrero all got the title(s) this year, so I guess anything is possible.

[algrim 0]

Here's what i think:

 

-Booker will beat JBL at Survivor Series.

-He'll lose the belt to Angle either at the Rumble or No Way Out, because I think losing it at Armageddon would be too soon.

[Dark Age 0]

Rebuttal: Booker T is a better worker than Big Show and RVD combined and obviously deserves it more than either of them.

As much as aI like Book, he truly is very overrated and I could count in one hand all the *** or plus matches he had in his single carrer(They were all with Benoit). His matches will bores the crap out of me. RVD would make a better choice for a champion because number 1: He is still over as a face with the fans w/o having any type of push whatsoever and number 2: he could have better matches with Angle, Eddie and Taker compare to a Booker T or a Bradshaw.

You obviously haven't seen very many Booker T matches. And how can you say you like him, then say he is overrated, worse than RVD, lump him in the same boat as Bradshaw and say he's had only a handful of even remotely good matches in his career, all in the post? You may not want to admit it but Booker T SMOKES RVD in the ring. Booker T would have FAR better matches with Angle or Taker than RVD. Eddie can carry RVD to his level, so I won't comment on that scenario, but the point is: Booker T is better than Van Dam.

 

If they really wanna make this Bradshaw/Booker T feud mean something, they should bring Goldust back. Have JBL say Booker's a joke, etc, etc, he's a choker. Booker is backstage, doubting his ability. Enter Goldust. Goldie tells Booker how he rescued his (Goldust's)career. It would be a contrast to the segment 2 years ago where Booker convinced Goldust that he had it, and that they should remain partners. In the main event, Booker and Goldie beat JBL and OJ, Booker pinning JBL. Have Goldust wrestle a handicap match before Booker comes out, gets the hot tag and just beats the crap out of JBL. After the match, Goldie tries to put the belt around Booker, but Booker won't let him. He gives the belt to Bradshaw, stares him down, and I'm all like 'woah, Booker's gonna win the title. Hell yeah!'. And then he does. Good times.

[Guest JMA]

I think that Booker has a good chance to become WWE Champion. Of course, like others have said, the WWE might just be getting our hopes up. I'd like to see Booker win even if he is going to be a transitional champion. At least he will have been WWE Champion.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

It's pretty sad- I went to the Survivor Series in 2002 just to see Booker get the belt.

 

Now if he gets the belt at Survivor Series- I won't really care

He didn't have a rats chance in hell of winning that match. Even the pre-match promotional banners on WWE.com had HBK & HHH at the front with the remainder of the contenders pictured behind them. It was pretty obvious that a Kliq member was winning that one.

 

UYI

[Lil' Bitch 0]

As for Booker T being overrated, that's laugable. He's better than Bradshaw in just about every department. He's a better worker, got more charisma, and actually gets a pop for something he does in the ring. His style is more condusive to having good matches with the SD roster, and, even if everything else were equal with Bradshaw, I'd still go with the guy who could have better matches, because then at least there would be a consistantly good in-ring product.

 

As much as aI like Book, he truly is very overrated and I could count in one hand all the *** or plus matches he had in his single carrer(They were all with Benoit). His matches will bores the crap out of me. RVD would make a better choice for a champion because number 1: He is still over as a face with the fans w/o having any type of push whatsoever and number 2: he could have better matches with Angle, Eddie and Taker compare to a Booker T or a Bradshaw.

 

Well considering the man got a good / decent match out of NASH, I think that alone should speak for itself.

[humongous2002 0]

As for Booker T being overrated, that's laugable. He's better than Bradshaw in just about every department. He's a better worker, got more charisma, and actually gets a pop for something he does in the ring. His style is more condusive to having good matches with the SD roster, and, even if everything else were equal with Bradshaw, I'd still go with the guy who could have better matches, because then at least there would be a consistantly good in-ring product.

 

As much as aI like Book, he truly is very overrated and I could count in one hand all the *** or plus matches he had in his single carrer(They were all with Benoit). His matches will bores the crap out of me. RVD would make a better choice for a champion because number 1: He is still over as a face with the fans w/o having any type of push whatsoever and number 2: he could have better matches with Angle, Eddie and Taker compare to a Booker T or a Bradshaw.

 

Well considering the man got a good / decent match out of NASH, I think that alone should speak for itself.

I've seen the match and it blows, but to each their own.

[CanadianChick 0]

Rebuttal: Booker T is a better worker than Big Show and RVD combined and obviously deserves it more than either of them.

Oh geez, are you kidding me? Yes, Show and RVD do, well, suck. But Booker T does as well. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. He is the most boring person on the WWE roster, ring wise. Seriously. His series with Cena earlier this month was the cure for insomia. At least Show and RVD do things to get excited about.

 

Fan during a Show match: "Wow! This guy is huge! Did you see him throw (insert wrestler) across the ring? That's awesome!"

 

Fan during a RVD match: "His kicks rule! And his 5 star frogsplash is awesome! 4:20!"

 

Fan during a Booker T match: "Yah, the spinaroonie!"

 

Seriously, the whole "Booker T is a good worker" thing is old. He sucks and is boring in the ring.

[Guest Loss]

You're wrong.

 

Dead wrong.

 

Booker's typically a smart worker and his style is more of a traditional heavyweight style than the methodical WWE style, so he doesn't fit in. But he hardly "sucks", nor is he a bad worker.

 

There are a lot of Booker matches I could recommend that aren't necessarily good matches, but that are essential viewings to see how he works with a variety of opponents and performs well.

 

07/09/01 - v Kurt Angle - Really good match, perhaps Angle's best non-Austin or non-Benoit match of 2001.

 

07/16/01 - v Chris Jericho - Awesome and short TV match, an indication of what these two could have done with a long term feud. Worth seeing.

 

08/25/02 - w/Goldust v Lance Storm/Christian - Very underrated match, better than HHH/HBK on the same show and as good as Angle/Rey.

 

12/23/02 - w/Goldust v Jericho/Christian - Doesn't get its due at all, which is sad, because it's the best WWE tag match of 2002, far better than the spotfest at No Mercy, as they actually work the tag formula properly and build well to the final stretch. Booker and Dustin are both outstanding here, and Jericho and Christian are pretty good too.

 

03/30/03 - v HHH - Not a great match, but this is HHH's best match from September of 2002-December of 2003. Great selling and nice, slow pace without dragging, as Booker sells HHH's boring offense like a pro.

 

04/21/03 - v HHH - Overlooked match, and again it's all good because of Booker. Some really hot nearfalls and strong offense on Booker's part.

 

11/17/03 - v Mark Henry - Booker actually uses the sleeperhold properly here, and the end result is a nifty and forgotten match where Booker carries Henry to something better than Jericho or Benoit have ever been able to get out of him.

 

11/24/03 - v Mark Henry - More smart work, as Booker is excellent as a babyface. He tells the crowd to be quiet so he can sneak attack Henry on his way to the ring, and they do it! That's what working is.

 

Those examples are just WWE examples, and don't even get into his WCW work. I'd never call him incredible or one of the best ever, but he can definitely outwork most on the roster at this point, and is better than some of the more heralded workers. There's no contest between him and RVD or Show.

[bob_barron 0]

Don't bother Loss- I've gotten into many arguments with the OMG BOOKER SUCKS crowd.

 

I remember once I listed tons of matches he had that were good-great and they were immediately dismissed.

 

I wish I had seen the XMas BookDust v. Chris-tain match

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Oh geez, are you kidding me? Yes, Show and RVD do, well, suck. But Booker T does as well. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. He is the most boring person on the WWE roster, ring wise. Seriously. His series with Cena earlier this month was the cure for insomia. At least Show and RVD do things to get excited about.

 

Fan during a Show match: "Wow! This guy is huge! Did you see him throw (insert wrestler) across the ring? That's awesome!"

 

Fan during a RVD match: "His kicks rule! And his 5 star frogsplash is awesome! 4:20!"

 

Fan during a Booker T match: "Yah, the spinaroonie!"

 

Seriously, the whole "Booker T is a good worker" thing is old. He sucks and is boring in the ring.

 

And where did excitement get RVD and Big Show in their careers so far this year?

 

His series with Cena earlier this month was the cure for insomia.

 

Wrong series, the correct answer is Christian.

[natey2k4 0]

IMO... JBL has been a great champion. He's fun, entertaining, and keeps me tuned in Smackdown. The Halo Hat thing was fucking great. Now, I admit, his reign hasnt been the reign to turn him into the monster heel and that he hasn't been booked all that well. But to go from APA Bradshaw, that I hated completely and hardly EVER found entertaining after week 2 of the APA, to becoming JBL and has me addicted (London is the main reason I watch SD, but he hasnt been there for a month and i still watch for JBL) to Smackdown.

 

Booker T on the other hand, could be a decent champion. But he will be nothing more than a transitional champion, so it doesnt matter.

 

Big Show as Champion just doesnt appeal to me, sorry Show fans. I like Show, but I like him in a role where he just kills guys, not as a World Champion where its impossible for almost anyone to beat him and be believed.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Booker T is like 40-41 isn't he?

 

He hasn't worked a realistic, good singles match in like 4-6 years.

 

Don't soil the WWE Title by giving it to him. He's a midcarder.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

One year ago, would you expect to read a thread where multiple posters complained about how BRADSHAW *shouldn't* be dropping the WWE Title and should continue his main event run ?

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

He hasn't worked a realistic, good singles match in like 4-6 years.

Someone didn't read Loss4Words post.

[Dark Age 0]

Booker T is like 40-41 isn't he?

 

How old is Taker? Triple H? Shawn? Benoit? Eddie? They've all got to be 35+ (at the youngest) right?

 

He hasn't worked a realistic, good singles match in like 4-6 years.

 

In other words, he hasn't worked a good match in his entire WWE run? How about when he dropped the WCW Title to Angle? Or his early 2002 match with Austin? How bout carrying Triple H to the best match he had in almost 2 years? His other matches with Angle in 2001? His SS01 match with Rocky(underrated)? A couple of bouts with Jericho in 2001? His Rebellion02 match with Matt Hardy? His Heat match with Matt Hardy this year? The Raw rematch with Triple H(one of the best Raw matches of the year)? His title win over Christian? Insurrextion03 with Christian? His match with Eddie this year?

 

There. Just gave you a list of "realistic" good Booker T matches in his WWE run. That's not even TOUCHING any of his WCW 99-01. Of course, I'm sure you'll tell me that these matches sucked or he was carried, etc.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

*** Or his early 2002 match with Austin? ***

 

Nothing special.

 

*** How bout carrying Triple H to the best match he had in almost 2 years? ***

 

The WrestleMania 19 match was AWFUL.

The Raw rematch was predictable and nothing special.

 

*** His other matches with Angle in 2001? ***

 

These matches are NOTHING SPECIAL. Not great. That's what a main eventer should do. Put on spectacular matches. Booker was a comedy character in the Alliance. Throw, say, Shawn Stasiak or The Hurricane in these matches and you get the SAME THING. Okay match, Angle carry job, Austin and Shane run in, title change.

 

 

*** His SS01 match with Rocky(underrated)? ***

 

Good, not great. One of the lamest SummerSlam main events ever, as well, because Booker T has no drawing and/or star power.

 

 

*** A couple of bouts with Jericho in 2001? ***

 

I remember one on Raw and one on Smackdown. Nothing stuck out. Run-ins galore.

 

*** His Rebellion02 match with Matt Hardy?***

 

Never seen it. Can't stand Hardy, however.

 

Booker T's matches with "Honky Tonk Man" Christian were AWFUL. Don't even TRY to sell them as reasons Booker is great.

 

 

The ONLY interesting work Booker T has done in his WWE Career is teaming with Goldust and producing a couple decent matches with Christian/Jericho and Christian/Storm.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

His series with Cena earlier this month was the cure for insomia.

 

That's completely unfair. Name one good match Cena has had. I don't think that can be blamed on booker.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Oh, and I did read Loss 4 Words post.

 

He's insane.

 

Bookdust Vs. Unamericans on par with Rey/Angle? Someone get him some coffee.

 

Two matches with Mark Henry which carried the big lug to BEARABLE matches instead of instant DUDS? He's a moron.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

There's a reason "people like" Booker T don't get World Title reigns.

 

Because "people like" means: Over the hill workers who have no star power, have very basic movesets, can't properly execute OR don't even attempt half the moves that got them over, and have lackluster performances when given main event matches (WM 19, SSlam 2001).

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Explain why the WM19 was a lackluster performance by Booker T?

 

Clearly your a biased poster.

[humongous2002 0]

Oh geez, are you kidding me? Yes, Show and RVD do, well, suck. But Booker T does as well. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. He is the most boring person on the WWE roster, ring wise. Seriously. His series with Cena earlier this month was the cure for insomia. At least Show and RVD do things to get excited about.

 

Fan during a Show match: "Wow! This guy is huge! Did you see him throw (insert wrestler) across the ring? That's awesome!"

 

Fan during a RVD match: "His kicks rule! And his 5 star frogsplash is awesome! 4:20!"

 

Fan during a Booker T match: "Yah, the spinaroonie!"

 

Seriously, the whole "Booker T is a good worker" thing is old. He sucks and is boring in the ring.

 

And where did excitement get RVD and Big Show in their careers so far this year?

 

The only reason RVD is not getting a push is because HHH has enough stroke to keep him down, Rob is the most over face in SD next to Eddie or that untalented Cena.

His series with Cena earlier this month was the cure for insomia.

 

Wrong series, the correct answer is Christian.

 

Booker's feud with Cena showed me how unmotivated and old he is, that feud was brutal.

[Guest Loss]

I find it really strange that those of you who are saying Booker isn't a good enough worker to be champion are the same ones supporting Bradshaw holding the belt. Of course, no one has bothered to actually watch the matches I have listed to see how they hold up.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Don't soil the WWE Title by giving it to him. He's a midcarder.

THEY GAVE THE BELT TO JBL! How can you use this argument against Book?

[Brett Favre 0]

The Booker T/Kurt Angle matches of 2001 are very underrated.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

The only reason RVD is not getting a push is because HHH has enough stroke to keep him down, Rob is the most over face in SD next to Eddie or that untalented Cena.

 

Well, RVD being more unmotivated than Booker, being a whiner, not working the WWE style, conducting shoot-like interviews, working stiff isn't helping him either.

 

Booker's feud with Cena showed me how unmotivated and old he is, that feud was brutal.

 

And the feud with Christian wasn't?!! At least Cena would try to get the crowd into the match while Christian was putting everyone to sleep with his trademark chinlocks of doom.

 

 

 

I think its funny a lot of people complained on this board back in June about how much Bradshaw sucks, how much he doesn't deserve the title, and the best thing to fix the SD brand would be to take the title off him, yet when a next challenger is announced for JBL, most of the posters on here DON'T want the title off Bradshaw. Jesus Christ, make up your fucking minds, people.

[2GOLD 0]

Big Show as Champion just doesnt appeal to me, sorry Show fans. I like Show, but I like him in a role where he just kills guys, not as a World Champion where its impossible for almost anyone to beat him and be believed.

 

Oh come on, how can you doubt the Show? Are you currently see him as a green alien on ENTERPRISE?

 

If the guy can pull off the role of giant green alien, he can handle World Champion again with ease. As long as he doesn't run into a Vulcan.

 

As for Booker as World Champion, they really need to decide if he is a face or heel and stick with it. Booker has turned almost as much as Jericho.