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The odd thing is that TNN produced some of ECW's best matches: 

 

--I recall the Christmas and New Years Tanaka/Awesome matches where the title changed a couple of times.  Those were brilliant matches that smoke anything the WWF or WCW was doing at that time.

 

--RVD vs. Jerry Lynn from the ECW Arena, where Lynn had hurt ribs but kept going.  Personally I'd have changed the TV title here and moved RVD up to the world title, but such is life.  I consider this the best RVD/Lynn match since it had the least amount of stalling, the best in match storytelling, and the most heated atmosphere.

 

--Mikey and Tajiri vs. The FBI.  Insanely great match, but overshadowed in a great year for wrestling (2000)

I agree with you on that

 

I thought the mikey/tajiri vs fbi match was awesome. The best ecw match of 00 in my opinion (well i didnt see the ppvs so...) I refered to it as the Stiff match of doom. I mean seriously they were working ultra stiff tajiri nearly kicked the heads off guido and mamaluke

 

 

 

I have yet to get the dvd (actually the dvds produced by pioneer back in 00-02 have a lot of good stuff on them more than the wwe produced one)

 

 

 

 

 

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I understand wanting to protect the Simon Dean gimmick, but it'd have been cool to see some of Nova (match, interview, whatever) that don't have him disguised as part of the BWO.

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While I liked Nova in ECW, he didn't do much. It made less sense for them to completly ignore Justin Credible, The Eliminators, The FBI, and Jerry Lynn. And a 2 second clip with no name mention doesn't count.

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I love how honest and open everyone is. I'm about an hour in, but the following two comments just absolutely made it for me.

 

Bischoff: "we didn't raid ECW's talent" + [5 minute justification, referencing McMahon's raiding of the territories]

Heyman: Eric Bischoff is full of shit

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Oh this is the best WWE produced DVD simply because most people tell it like it is.

 

As I said I haven't seen much of Benoit's ECW work so I can't rate his match with Al Snow.

 

I also like the RVD/Sabu series from 1996. There isn't that ONE match that I'd take to a desert island, but they're all just crazy shit. The Stretcher match, the one with the broken ring (the most dangerous match I've ever seen without gimmickry), etc. If you like diamond cutters off the top rope (with Rob's legs getting caught..he damn near folds backwards!), DDTs through tables, and monkeyflips onto the poking legs of chairs, this is the series for you! It's the most violent wrestling I've ever seen that doesn't include Japanese death shit with explosives and barbed wire, just standard wrestling with maybe standard ECW use of tables and chairs.

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While I liked Nova in ECW, he didn't do much. It made less sense for them to completly ignore Justin Credible, The Eliminators, The FBI, and Jerry Lynn. And a 2 second clip with no name mention doesn't count.

Credible did nothing memerable other than breaking Great Sasake's leg, being the weak link in the Impact Players, and being the champ during the final year. The FBI had a few clips here and there too bad they did not go thru the list of the members. The Eliminators were big early on because Joey Styles would yell out their finisher. Jerry Lynn's best work was during the TNN days which was ignored by everybody, at least he has a match as one of the extras.

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...Credible had a great feud with Dreamer, and a pretty good feud with Douglas. And say what you will about the Impact Players, but they were far and away the most interesting thing durring the TNN run...in my opinion anyway.

 

And Lynn had very good matches with Credible in 98, Van Dam in 99, and Corino in 00. He was one of the most consistant guys in the company.

 

And I know Paul E hates him, but Corino got zero mention on the DVD, that was bullshit.

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--The Rise and Fall of ECW is now rated on amazon.com as the No. 1 selling sports video. No other WWE or UFC video cracked the top 40.

 

From the latest WO.com update.

 

Add to that, numerous reports of it being sold out in stores all over the place.

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Bischoff: "we didn't raid ECW's talent" + [5 minute justification, referencing McMahon's raiding of the territories]

Heyman: Eric Bischoff is full of shit

That was so awesome...

I got it today at Best Buy (w the RVD figure) Watched all but the last 10 minutes of the main feature

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Man, this DVD looks hotter than hell. The Chapters/Main Feature look like the reason to buy this set.

 

I'm only interested in 4 of the 7 matches. The matches that I'm not interested is the Pitbulls/Raven&Richards match, the Guerrero/Malenko match, and the Rey Mysterio/Juvi match. Guerrero/Malenko because I don't expect TECHNICAL WRESTLING on a HARDCORE GARBAGE DVD. It would be like seeing the FCC tone down a Vic Grimes/Sabu/Rotten Brothers/New Jack match to an 8 ft Balcony dive ending, and 1 Table Spot in XPW, in other words see: Lame.

 

And the other 2 because I have the Hardcore History DVD.

 

Another gripe about the extra matches is that 5 of the 7 matches are on OTHER ECW DVDs!!! My god, Vince, you own the footage, but yet you pull off footage from other DVDs!!!!

 

Someone answer this questions.

 

If the ECW DVD rating is TV-MA, why hasen't the WWE pasted a thousand parental guidance warnings all over the cover, and back cover?

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I love the Paul Heyman: Travel Agent extra feature.

 

Jericho imitating Ron Simmons: "Do I look like Seymour Goldstein? Give me something to work with. Damn."

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...Credible had a great feud with Dreamer, and a pretty good feud with Douglas. And say what you will about the Impact Players, but they were far and away the most interesting thing durring the TNN run...in my opinion anyway.

 

And Lynn had very good matches with Credible in 98, Van Dam in 99, and Corino in 00. He was one of the most consistant guys in the company.

 

And I know Paul E hates him, but Corino got zero mention on the DVD, that was bullshit.

The angle when Douglas was going to hang up his boot and declare the next Franchise? The best thing on TNN was Tajiri, whether it be working with the Sinister Minister or having matches with Super Crazy.

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Does anyone think that the excellent sales of this DVD might cause Vince to stop and think that maybe ECW has a fanbase out there, and that restarting the company with Heyman and CO. under the WWE umbrella would be a good idea?

 

I think Corino was one of the most vocal guys about Heyman not paying near the end, thus Heyman still has ill will. Besides what are you gonna put with Corino, that he blades a lot?

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They should have shown the Jerry Lynn/Corino spot where Lynn writes "DIE" in Corino's blood.

 

I haven't seen this dvd yet, so i dont know if that was shown or not but it should have been and why hasn't it been duplicated since?

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For the miniscule amount of matches on this dvd, I'd say it has been one hell of a success. I think Vince should considering more ECW dvds in the future.

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Guest The Shadow Behind You

I'd be rather curious to know how a "History of WCW" DVD would sell.

 

History of WCW has a GREATER selection of matches to choose from (there's over 50 matches alone that are justifiable CW acknowledgements). The Monday Night Wars dvd did rather well; so there is a interest out there and ECW is doing fantastic here and that was a completely smaller fanbase.

 

WCW had a massive fanbase and people who stopped watching after the 1996-1998 hayday would love to relive those "glory" days.

 

The product may be down and sales are down for tickets but WWE is really churning out quality dvd's and sadly, those great dvd's could be even BETTER. At least the match selection here could be.

 

History of WCW could easily be a 4 Disc DVD

 

Disc One

Two hour History piece following the creation of WCW, Losing Flair and the Title, creating a star in Sting, the Japan era,Hogan's debut and the changes that came from that, the arrivial of the CW's, The debut of Nitro, Brian Pillman's loose cannon antics, The NWO invasion, The mainstream attention, Goldberg's streak, Sting/Hogan and then you got all the inmates running the asylum situations, the chaos that was WCW, the political hell, company falling apart, the constant hirings and firings of writers and bookers. Bischoff/Russo alliance and the swan song of WCW.

 

Disc Two

WCW 1991-1995 (Pre-Nwo)

So many great Matches to choose from here. Hit the required matches.

Choose one Sting/Vader match to represent that program

Flair/Vader, one of those fantastic MVC matches, Luger/Sting Vs Steiners, Pillman/Liger, Ron Simmons title win (historic reasoning), Rick Rude/Ricky Steamboat Iron Man Match. One of Austin's great matches during his TV Title/US Title runs, perhaps the one with Rhodes (since Steamboat already got used). The Hollywood Blondes should have a match there to represent how WCW missed the boat on that, there's tons of untapped gold from this era. Hogan's debut against Flair at BATB or perhaps the better Hogan/Flair match from Havoc in the cage. Show the first Nitro match (which was Pillman/Liger IRRC), Anderson/Flair (unless they choose to save it for the horseman dvd). again...SO much untapped gold from this era.

 

Disc Two

The Nwo Arrive

We know the story and there was a DVD about it, but it would HAVE to be a part of History of WCW dvd. Show more footage and more matches and try to sell how the CW was a monster aspect of WCW's success. Focus on how WCW "mis-used" the current WWE stars of Benoit, Guerrero and Mysterio as an excuse to make them look better now. Goldberg/Hogan is a MUST. Hogan/Sting. Bret being mishandled by WCW (something Vince must love to say)

 

Disc Three

The End is near...

Show the many things that showed WCW was collasping and falling apart. Match selection should hammer across that WCW still had great talent but were so completely in chaos it didn't matter how good the talent was, it meant nothing. Many CW matches to display here, they can show how Booker T rose to prominence, Steiner/Goldberg FB would be a requirement. Flair/Sting as the final WCW Nitro match would be shown. Don't even mention wwe killed WCW when they brought it.

 

It would be so easy to make this dvd and I'd have to imagine eventually Vince will. I don't care if he buries them in the feature. Just show those FANTASTIC matches WCW gave us.

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I think the only reason why the dvd, sorta just stopped after Dreamer won the title is because the main feature, was very long, not saying that the main feature being long is a bad thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if the producers of the dvd felt it was long enough.

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They should have shown the Jerry Lynn/Corino spot where Lynn writes  "DIE" in Corino's blood.

Man, I marked HARD for that.

I thought it was cooler than the Vanterminator which debuted later on in the night.

 

And the Vanterminator was damn cool.

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When someone mentioned Corino I immediately thought of his two crowning moments in ECW, both of which involved getting the shit kicked out of him:

 

--His match at Hardocre Heaven 2000 where he did a massive bladejob and Tajiri just BEAT his ass. His hair was totally red from blood and Tajiri knocked blood off Corino ONTO THE CAMERA.

 

--The aforementioned Jerry Lynn "DIE" match. It certainly proved Jerry could be a sick bastard if need be.

 

Incidentally, the Van Terminator wasn't totally perfected in ECW. The best one I saw RVD do was when he nailed Heyman using the chair himself, instead of having someone hold it. That was awesome.

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There are 4 easter eggs in all. On Disc 1, go to the chapter selection screen. Highlight "PROMOS" and push either the left or right arrow on your remote. You'll get a 9 minute and 20 second montage of ECW's most famous promos, including one of Foley's "I'm hardcore" spiels.

 

On disc 2, highlight the Whipwreck vs. Sandman match, and click either the left or right arrow. You'll get a 6 minute and 30 second clip detailing Whipwreck's training regimen before wrestling the Sandman.

 

Highlight Taz vs. Bigelow, click the right or left arrow to see a 2 minute and 20 second clip detailing the backstory behind the match.

 

Highlight RVD vs. Lynn, click the right or left arrow, to get a 40 second clip of RVD talking about how he got a scar on his upper lip after being powerbombed thru the table in said match.

 

Note: you may have to push the right or left arrow on your remote a few times to activate the egg.

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I think the only reason why the dvd, sorta just stopped after Dreamer won the title is because the main feature, was very long, not saying that the main feature being long is a bad thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if the producers of the dvd felt it was long enough.

Nothing in ECW happened AFTER Dreamer lost the title. The company had no creative direction.

 

But, of course, they lacked direction long before that.

-=Mike

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Having watched every minute of ECW after said Dreamer title win I can tell you there is little storywise to discuss. Just Justin Credible's awful title run, being cancelled by TNN, and staggering to bankruptcy. There WERE some individaully great matches during this period however.

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They should have shown the Jerry Lynn/Corino spot where Lynn writes "DIE" in Corino's blood.

Say what you want about ECW.............but that was fucking unreal. Total markout moment.

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