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okay that's right, I remember now...as I've said before, from summer 2001 through WM20, I remember only bits and pieces of WWE happenings...I never watched Smackdown and only watched Raw once or twice a month...

 

another question...2 different Kurt Angle matches: one was when he won the title and all his family came to the ring to celebrate...who did he face, what was the event?

 

That was Unforgiven 2001, the opponent was Steve Austin. This was during the Invasion period and Kurt was the Face for the match and it took place in his home of Pittsburgh. Kurts family was ringside, and at one point Austin heckled his family and I think it was Kurts wife who flipped off Austin in a funny moment.

 

Umm yeah that was already answered.

 

oops sorry I missed that.

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Guest Frank_Nabbit

In May 1993 Jim Brunzell appeared on Raw as a jobber

 

In May 1993 Jim Brunzell appeared on WCW PPV as a "legend"

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Back during the Greater Power "mystery," I recall a rumor that they were planning to have the person who'd be the GP portray the reincarnation of Vince Sr. Anyone got more on that? Of course...there were some wacky rumors about the GP at the time, if you do a search in Google Groups ("highlighted" by several "they faked Owen's/Pillman's death" theories)

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Guest drdrainoscott

Heart attack. He had suffered a heart attack months before his death and he took a considerable amount of time off obviously. Right around the time he was scheduled to start back in Memphis he had a heart attack in his sleep and was found dead on his sofa by his wife the next morning.

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Razor Ramon never became WWF Champion but were there any plans of making him the champ?

 

I think so. I remember reading in the WWF magazine as a mark in my younger days about how Ramon being bitter he never got any title shots from Diesel.

 

Now that I'm a smark, it adds up, especially with all the Kliq stuff.

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Personally I can't see how the WWF would've ever given Razor the "ball" to run with, seeing how his drug and attitude problems were well known. Even if he had moved up to the main event, I don't think Vince ever would've put the belt on him.

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Guest Edgehead

The guy was so off his head at the time it probably never crossed his mind.

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According to a recent Observer, at one point there was a plan that never left the drawing board for OJ Simpson vs Roddy Piper at WrestleMania XII. I guess that kinda explains the use of two year old OJ footage as a joke.

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Owen Hart was supposed to receive a god push?

 

I don't think thats what the gimmick was to entail. Just being an over-frustrated heel saying he hasn't gotten his just due from the fans, backstage, ect, and feelings that he is not only the best in the game, he IS THE GAME! BECAUSE HE IS THAT DAMNED GOOD!

 

Triple H's backstage politics and the right person to shack up with helped the character get the God push

 

By the way, the guy has had "The Game" gimmick for about 8 years now? Thats a long time in this day and age. Sure HHH apologists (if any actually exist on the net) will say he tweaked the gimmick when he and Flair begain their on-screen friendship in 2002, but hey, "The Game" is still his entrance song

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didn't HBK, Booker T and Big Show all join the NWO following Hogan's departure and then all of them ended up getting kicked out left and right not too long after?

 

Does anyone have a timeline for the WWE version of the NWO?

 

wouldn't it have made more sense for it to just comprise of the Klik guys (HHH, Hall, Nash and HBK)? Well, perhaps not with HBK and/or HHH since they had the whole blood fued going and all...

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I think Hall was fired because he didn't have his act together and Nash just couldn't wrestle. Big Show was in the nWo after Hogan left and he was in the nWo all the way through IMO.

 

What if instead of the nWo which didn't make much sense anyways that they were brought in by Vince. What if he just said his poison was "The Clique" or some other name. And then have HBK, Hall and Nash show up and kick some ass. The Rock could have fought Hogan as a Face v. Face match, HBK v. Austin maybe and Hall versus someone else. It would be a much better idea because the people expected way too much from the nWo and Hogan was just too popular in the WWE and still is. Later on they could have had HHH turn Heel and join The Clique. Hell, they could have even thrown in X-Pac!

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didn't HBK, Booker T and Big Show all join the NWO following Hogan's departure and then all of them ended up getting kicked out left and right not too long after?

 

Does anyone have a timeline for the WWE version of the NWO?

 

wouldn't it have made more sense for it to just comprise of the Klik guys (HHH, Hall, Nash and HBK)? Well, perhaps not with HBK and/or HHH since they had the whole blood fued going and all...

 

 

Hall, Nash, Hogan to start at No Way Out in Feb 2002

 

Hogan is kicked out after WM turn, X-Pac "rejoins" Nash is still on the shelf wrestling wise but making apperances

 

Big Show gets added just to have a "big man in ring precsence" I guess

 

Hall is fired after "Plane Ride From Hell"

 

Flair turns heel in May I believe and announces Booker T to join the nWo for no apparent reason. Booker's tagteam partner Goldust is in angle of trying to join.

 

New sherrif in town, Kevin Nash brings a returning Shawn Michaels into the nWo to replace Scott Hall. A week later Shawn kicks out Booker, obstensibly to keep Booker a face and continue BookerDust vs nWo angle going

 

This would start a gimmick of Show and Pac having to "win" matches in order to stay in the nWo.

 

Don't remeber if X-Pac was still a member by the end of it though, but one week Show would lose a match and HBK gave him some Sweet Chin Music for it, though he was still in the nWo as HBK said it was "tough love" They actually played up this angle when Shawn turned face a few weeks later where Show wanted to have a face-to-face over the SCM

 

Then the infamous night Nash comes back, only to tear his quad! HBK cuts the final (ever?) nWo promo advising Triple H to accept membership in the nWo (he was a "free agent" at this point)

 

Next week on Raw Vince dissolves the nWo and Eric Bischoff, ironically the brainchild of the gimmick in the first place, debuts as the new Raw GM

 

That I believe was the week before the July 02 PPV where Triple H would "make his decision" between Raw and Smackdown

 

Steve

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So this all happened during '02, correct?  HBK wasn't wrestling any matches then at this point?  He was more of a spokesperson?

 

Yup, 5 month span. Yeah Shawn was just a spokesperson/manager role. Akin to Bischoff in the old days.

 

The plan there was to build towards Shawn-Hunter in some form though

 

Steve

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thanks for the refresher course Steve...last question...what exactly was the build up, then to HBK suddenly becomming the face to HHH's heel at Summerslam that same year...sounds like there was only a matter of a month or two between DX Heel HBK and Summerslam face HBK...

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