Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 George Washington. The father of our country. Kept together a rag tag continental army together until momentum could change in the battle for Indepedence. Than set the precedent of what the President is supposed to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Franklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Thomas Edison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RHR 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Thomas Jefferson. Statesman, philosopher, inventor, LADIES man. His influence is still felt, everyday, by every American. While Washington supplied the brawn to the Revolution, Jefferson was the brain. And well-thought out thinking and foresight will always overmatch brawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phenom Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Franklin Deleno Roosevelt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Franklin Delenor Roosevelt. Delano Pet peeve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Martin Luther King Jr. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 William Shatner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 William Shatner He's Canadian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 And thank God for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Isn't God Canadian too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 In all seriousness, George Washington would get the nod from me. If I were to pick a non-political American, I would probably take Muhammad Ali. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Noam Chomsky and/or Michael Moore Seriously though, probably Martin Luther Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Marthin Luther was German. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Don Lane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 It's a tie: Jackie Gleason and Burt Reynolds. Or that Washington guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Does he count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Happy Medium 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Only if he has to share the spotlight with Apollo.... Political - Abraham Lincoln Non-Political - Ted Williams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 ?? Seriously, though, Washington or Lincoln. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 The guy in your sig, on the right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Edison, in all seriousness. His face should be on your currency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Franklin Delano Roosevelt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 From reading several biographies on the American Founding Fathers, the best all-rounded one of them was John Adams. Washington had integrity and leadership like no other, with a great example being the order in his will to release all his slaves. Jefferson had many ideas, and one only needs to look to the Declaration of Independence. But a lot of his ideas were also really, really stupid. When he visited France he denounced the King and predicted a bloodless aristocratic revolution. Soon after, he was praising the King and editing out articles that showed how stupid is comments were. Adams gets stuck in the middle for some reason, but to me, from reading about him, he comes across as more logical and reasoned than Jefferson, and certainly with a lot more integrity than him. It boggles the mind why there isn't a big statue of him in Washington. But I'm only Australian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 How could I have forgotten...... The Greatest American Hero! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Lincoln. Can't think of many people who both survived a coup and helped keep his country together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Happy Medium 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 From reading several biographies on the American Founding Fathers, the best all-rounded one of them was John Adams. Washington had integrity and leadership like no other, with a great example being the order in his will to release all his slaves. Jefferson had many ideas, and one only needs to look to the Declaration of Independence. But a lot of his ideas were also really, really stupid. When he visited France he denounced the King and predicted a bloodless aristocratic revolution. Soon after, he was praising the King and editing out articles that showed how stupid is comments were. Adams gets stuck in the middle for some reason, but to me, from reading about him, he comes across as more logical and reasoned than Jefferson, and certainly with a lot more integrity than him. It boggles the mind why there isn't a big statue of him in Washington. But I'm only Australian. It's hard for me to argue with a person from another country who takes the time to actually research my history, but eh...I disagree with you on Adams and Jefferson. Well Jefferson did write the Declaration of Independence, but he did a lot of paraphrasing from popular philosophers of The Enlightenment. Jefferson wrote about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This was based off of John Locke's theory that man deserves life, liberty, and the pursuit of property. Also, I am not familiar with his comments towards King Louis (?) but I do know that he was in France while the Constitutional Convetion took place. And the backtracking....well, I believe it was good idea for Jefferson to bite his tongue. After all, the crowning achievment of Jerfferson's administration was The Lousiana Purchase that doubled the size of the United States. If it had not been for their neutral relationship with France, Napoleon would've never allowed all that territory to go for only 15 million dollars. However, the trade embargo that he imposed before the War of 1812 on both France and England was stupid. It crippled the economy. Sad too, because his earlier work on the budget sawed the defecit in half during his first term in office. Adams...the only thing I think about with John is that he passed a document called the Alien and Sedition Act. This bill took away the freedom of press, and jailed anyone who spoke harshly of the administration. So uhm yeah, Adams was an asshole in my opinion for that move, taking away freedom of speech. Interesting thing about Jefferson and Adams. They were bitter rivals during their public lives, but then became best friends as they grew old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 27, 2004 correct me if i'm wrong but didn't they both die on the same day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 correct me if i'm wrong but didn't they both die on the same day? Ironically enough, on July 4th (1826) Yes, I did have to look up the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Washington's still number one. He basically set the precedent for the whole world that democracy could work on a large scale, in everything from fighting the war for freedom, helping set up the country, getting it going as the first president, and then most importantly, giving up that power, to make sure that the power would transfer peacefully after the first democratic leader was elected. He refused to take dictatorial power when a group of citizens conspired to make sure that he would, and then finally refused to run for a third term, and admonished any future generations of leaders that would try such an act. If not for Washington, the majority of the world might still be run by constituitonal monarchies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
