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[vivalaultra 0]

I am completely satisfied with my decision. Yo La Tengo was playing on the stage with the fucked up sound (The PA for the stage they were on has been shitty for every show the past two years). And Ryan Shaw can sing. He sounds like Wilson Pickett or Otis Redding or Jackie Wilson. And I've seen Yo La Tengo in the past. Seriously, I don't know how anybody feels about good, old-fashioned soul/R&B, but Ryan Shaw is amazing.

[snuffbox 0]

Modest Mouse is fucking finally touring through Wisconsin. November 10/11.

[King Kamala 0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fVpkAiMwhg

 

Chicago-Stay The Night

 

 

This video doesn't get nearly enough credit in the category of incredibly cheesy and terrible 80s videos that are still immensely entertaining. It's right up there with Journey's Separate Ways video.

[PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0]

The new Liars album is probably their best one yet and anyone who says that it's not as good as the admirable-but-not-really-listenable Drum's Not Dead is dead wrong.

[King Kamala 0]

One of my high school's perennial substitute teachers always said that The Jackson 5 ruined Motown...thoughts?

 

 

Personally, I thought they were Motown's last truly great act (Boyz II Men notwithstanding but they came long after Motown had become just another record label). Some of The Jackson 5's ballads stand up to the strongest ballads put out by any of the bands on that label IMHO.

[Gary Floyd 0]

The New Architecture In Helsinki album is so-so. It has its moments, but it's kinda dull.

 

 

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

One of my high school's perennial substitute teachers always said that The Jackson 5 ruined Motown...thoughts?

Well, what's the supporting argument?

 

Personally, I think Stax was superior to Motown. As great as that signature sound was, Motown Records as a whole seems so master-planned and assembly-line, whereas Stax allowed for more artistic and personal expression, and didn't concern itself with mass appeal the same way Motown did. Of course, that didn't do Stax a whole lot of good, because they ceased to exist.

[Steviekick 0]

I'm a big fan of Stax. The label's death was more due to really awful distribution deals, not having control of their masters and poor business decisions. If you ever get the chance, definitely check out the Stax museum.

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

Already did, man. Great museum. Shame that it's in kind of a bad neighborhood, but they built the replica of the movie theater right where the original was, so there you go. There's a Stax Records documentary that pops up on public television every now and then, too. It was on back in July, I think.

[King Kamala 0]

One of my high school's perennial substitute teachers always said that The Jackson 5 ruined Motown...thoughts?

Well, what's the supporting argument?

 

I can't exactly remember but I'm pretty sure it had to do with them being the first Motown act to record in Los Angeles instead of Detroit and having their songs written and produced by The Corporation rather than Holland-Dozier-Holland.

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

They weren't the first to record outside Detroit. There had always been sessions outside of Detroit.

[Kinetic 0]

Yeah, and Holland-Dozier-Holland were just one of many songwriters/songwriting teams responsible for Motown songs. The Jackson 5 have three amazing singles ("I Want You Back," "ABC," "The Love You Save") and then a whole lot of nothing.

[Steviekick 0]

I saw the Stax documentary and it was really good. The book Soulsville, U.S.A.: The Story of Stax Record is a great read.

[King Kamala 0]

They weren't the first to record outside Detroit. There had always been sessions outside of Detroit.

 

They may have been the first to record exclusively out of Los Angeles, outside of their demos, I think everything was recorded outside of Los Angeles.

 

I don't see how they ruined Motown though. It's not really their fault that Berry Gordy got sick of Holland-Dozier-Holland's egos and replaced them with lesser songwriters. It's not like they were going to write their own songs or anything.

 

RE: Stax Records. Oddly enough, I just bought the Soulsville U.S.A. book at a used book store this Saturday. I'm a big fan of Stax Records. Any of you guys here see Wattstax? It's a concert film about "The Black Woodstock" at The Coliseum in L.A. The concert lineup was entirely comprised of Stax artists; Issac Hayes headlines, Albert King, The Staples Singers, Rufus Thomas, Carla Thomas, and The Bar-Kays are also in it. It's really a great concert film and you get appearences by Richard Pryor, Jesse Jackson, Melvin Van Peebles, and Ted Lange (Issac from The Love Boat!)

[Steviekick 0]

Wattstax is a fun documentary/concert film. I believe it won an Oscar.

[Smartly Pretty 0]

The New York Dolls don't get enough credit.

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

For what? First of all, they get too much credit, second of all, their music isn't even THAT great in and of itself, and third, we're inconceivably in the midst of a pretty cool Stax Records discussion.

 

Wattstax is on my list of concert films to get ASAP, with The Last Waltz.

 

Youtube stuff I can find:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pMw6GaA1-Ug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auZV2myICts

[King Kamala 0]

I love the Shaft clip with Issac Hayes taking his sweet ass time getting to the stage with his long entrance and Jesse Jackson standing onstage yelling "YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!" repeatedly.

 

 

The Rufus Thomas performance is pretty cool when he invites the audience on the field to dance then gets them all back to their seats within minutes.

 

My only complaint about the movie is they should have spent more time on the actual music. Though most of the Richard Pryor bits were funny

 

Fun fact; Wattstax was directed by the same guy who did Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory

 

Not Stax related really but another fun, little seen R&B concert film is Soul to Soul about Ghana's Independence Anniversary concert in 1971. It has Ike and Tina Turner, Wilson Pickett, The Staples Singers, and somewhat inexplicably, Santana shows up to do a longass jam.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Man, the New York Dolls' s/t was a pretty fucking great rock record. Top 20 material for me, definitely. Too Much Too Soon is good, too. We can pretend there isn't some people calling themselves the New York Dolls now.

 

Also, The Last Waltz is interesting from a historical standpoint, though really it's just two hours of cocaine and Scorsese fellating Robbie Robertson. But hey, maybe that's your idea of fun.

[snuffbox 0]

Johnathon Demme should make more concert movies.

[snuffbox 0]

Just ordered my Neil Young ticket for 12/12, third row.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

You'll be able to taste the skin flaking off his face!

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I wish Send More Paramedics would've done one US tour before calling it quits in approximately 26 days. I think that, with enough word-of-mouth, they'd have at least gotten a solid following, roughly the size of Municipal Waste's if not a little bit smaller. Gimmicked to the fucking max, but they make up for it with solid thrash.

[PLAGIARISM! 0]

On average, I think the Dolls get about the right amount of credit.

[Darthtiki 0]

I'm going to see the Spice Girls at Staples Center. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I'm thinking this reunion tour was a caveat in the Beckham to LA deal.

[Nighthawk 0]

I wanted to go to that pretty bad. Shame money got kinda tight.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Alcest are a pretty good band.

[snuffbox 0]

The new Wu Tang song, 'Heart Gently Weeps' (you know the sample), is fuckin' nice.

[Ripper 0]

Will.I.Am has a pretty great CD out (despite that horrible horrible first single).

 

You should buy it and stuff.

[snuffbox 0]

Been listeing to the new Jesu all afternoon.