Is WWF building to Batista/HHH at Wrestlemania?

[Guest LooneyTune]

Randy Orton couldn't touch The Rocks jockstrap in the charisma department. Hell, The Rock has had more **** matches than Orton has had ***+.

 

Rock >>>>>>>>>>>> (keep going) Orton.

[SuperJerk 0]

My best hope is that Batista would face HHH at Mania in a non-title match, while heel Edge successfully defends the title against HBK.

 

Smackdown may yet get the ME slot with Taker vs. Angle.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The WWE has spent the past year-plus building Orton to this level. They're not going to pull the plug.

They messed up with pulling the trigger, so I can see them either pulling the plug on Orton v HHHawkeye at Mania, or at least cooling off on it.

 

I think if Batista v HHHawkeye isn't the planned Mania main event right now, it's at least the main event that Vince and/or HHHawkeye want, and are laying the groundwork for so they can say they have to do it because the fans want it. Once they screwed up the Orton angle, I think it was obvious that Batista was likely to get a shot at the WM main event, purely because of his look. Vince, and HHHawkeye, are marks for physiques, and Batista has the juiced up look they like. Batista is homegrown as well, which works on his favor, so I'd say all signs point to HHHawkeye v Batista at WM, with maybe Orton getting a look in as part of a possible three-way main event, or something like that. Whatever the case, I don't think Orton is their main focus anymore regarding long term plans, at least as far as the WM main event is concerned.

[MikeJordan23 0]

If they do HHH vs.Batista, I wouldn't mind Orton vs. The Rock. But that has obvious problems if they want to keep Orton over as a face, but him beating The Rock at WM would make a big impact in building his character then anything else they could do, outside of a Triple H match.

 

Prefer if they didn't do Shawn Michaels vs. Orton, so they can have him open for a match against Angle, if they even go that route.

[The Tino Standard 0]

If they do HHH vs.Batista, I wouldn't mind Orton vs. The Rock. But that has obvious problems if they want to keep Orton over as a face, but him beating The Rock at WM would make a big impact in building his character then anything else they could do, outside of a Triple H match.

 

Prefer if they didn't do Shawn Michaels vs. Orton, so they can have him open for a match against Angle, if they even go that route.

If they had Orton-Rock, Orton would get booed out of the building, regardless of who the face was supposed to be in the match. And it would happen for all the same reasons Rock was booed when he fought Hogan in Toronto.

[Guest Jason]

If they put him over as the monster of the Elimination Chamber, and have every guy left in the cage have to team up on him to get him out, that will put Batista over hugely. Also, have him eliminate HHH, then shrug it off in an "every man for himself" type reasoning. Lead this on to a HHH (heel) vs. Batista (heel/neutral) feud. It could perhaps be one of the rare occasions a feud of that type could be pulled off to any success...

 

Although being realistic, the Chamber is probably just another way for HHH to get reign number 10, and become only 6 reigns away from equalling Flair

[tbondrage99 0]

I know I would much rather see Triple H vs. Batista. It was a stupid move to have Orton & Triple H wrestle right away....and yes I know thats the understatement of the year.

[DMann2003 0]

I'm convinced Edge is winning EC and will defeat Michaels at the Rumble, and drop the strap to Orton at WM, while HHH & Batista have a blood fued.

[Precious Roy 0]

The WWE has spent the past year-plus building Orton to this level.  They're not going to pull the plug.

They messed up with pulling the trigger, so I can see them either pulling the plug on Orton v HHHawkeye at Mania, or at least cooling off on it.

 

I think if Batista v HHHawkeye isn't the planned Mania main event right now, it's at least the main event that Vince and/or HHHawkeye want, and are laying the groundwork for so they can say they have to do it because the fans want it. Once they screwed up the Orton angle, I think it was obvious that Batista was likely to get a shot at the WM main event, purely because of his look. Vince, and HHHawkeye, are marks for physiques, and Batista has the juiced up look they like. Batista is homegrown as well, which works on his favor, so I'd say all signs point to HHHawkeye v Batista at WM, with maybe Orton getting a look in as part of a possible three-way main event, or something like that. Whatever the case, I don't think Orton is their main focus anymore regarding long term plans, at least as far as the WM main event is concerned.

Also, Randy Orton is still quite young and has many strong years ahead of him. As fresh as Batista is with the audience, he's still in his mid-30's, and with his physique and the style he has to work to keep up with the guys like Benoit and Jericho, I'd say he has a good chance of breaking down in a few years. Best to strike while the iron is hot and get everything they can out of the guy, because Orton will still be around when Batista rides off into the sunset.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I'm convinced Edge is winning EC and will defeat Michaels at the Rumble, and drop the strap to Orton at WM, while HHH & Batista have a blood fued.

Mmmmmmmm, blood food.

[Scroby 0]

So far WWE is doing everything right with the Batista turn, their delaying it. Their not trying to rush it like they did with Orton. But how long can they delay it for before the fans get bored with it and start saying "Oh there gonna turn Batista soon."? I'm thinking it gets delayed till Feb. but, I'm not sure excatly how to book that unless something happens at Royal Rumble and Batista's turn is complete the following Monday.

[zyn081 0]

I'd rather Hunter not be in the World Title match period. Make it Benoit defending against Edge, and have Edge win because thats what the Wrestlemania main event was for. Have HHH vs. Batista in a grudge match, and stick Orton in hell... I mean a feud with someone like Jericho.

Id still prefer a Jericho-Benoit (as a heel) ME for the World Title and HHH-Flair-Orton-Batista Fatal Fourway, and HBK going to SD! after WMXX1.

 

I see Orton-Jericho as being a sheer waste. Edge-HBK ME makes sense, so does HHH-Batista after both of them cost each other the title in the EC. Have Orton-Rock then, which should have happened at Backlash instead of Orton-Foley. 3rd generation superstar vs 3rd generation superstar! Foley-Orton should have been at Bad Blood.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

I think they may be heading in the direction of a HHH/Batista fued but I'm not sure if its gonna be set for WM .......... but hell thats just my opinion .

That's not an opinion.

 

Or at least not a good one.

 

Personally, I'd prefer to see Batista turn at WM by costing HHH the title. That way we get a summers worth of feud between Dave and HHH whil Orton gets to defend the ttle elsewhere.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

I have a sinking feeling they are building towards Orton vs. HHH for the rumble and then Batista vs. HHH at Wrestlemania. Orton will probably get to fight Edge in the battle of the chinlocks somewhere under the card. As much as I like Orton (and I am an Orton fan), I just can't pick him over Batista right now. Batista is on the biggest role of his life. The crowd is responding to him, and his game has picked up pretty damn well as of late. And his charisma has been shining through as of late with little statements here and there to HHH. And not to mention, the best spinebuster since Arn Anderson. Batista should be the main event for Wrestlemania. There is no other way... I don't think people will pay for Orton and HHH right now.

[The Dames 0]

Personally, I'd prefer to see Batista turn at WM by costing HHH the title. That way we get a summers worth of feud between Dave and HHH whil Orton gets to defend the ttle elsewhere.

I can definitely see that happening, but I have a feeling that it would be an inadvertant blow by Batista that causes Trips to fall into the RKO and the official turn would happen the next night on Raw.

 

Dames

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

It'll be interesting to see what decisions are made.

 

I think it was in the Observer that Stephanie feels Orton is more over than Cena (obviously Stephanie doesn't watch the shows), but its hard to ignore the reactions Batista is getting. They've spent a lot of time building up Orton chase story, and they've already had him pin HHH at SurvSer, so he has to face HHH at some major show.

 

Ultimately, I dont think they will ignore Batista being so over, but I also dont think they will give up on Orton. Thats why I see a 3 way going down. And actually, I think thats a decent idea. You've got the issue of Evolution, and you could throw in Flair as the wildcard in the match. They could even keep with the idea of putting the title on Orton, but then have Batista and HHH spin off post Mania, and build up to Batista vs Orton (maybe he could turn back heel....please turn back heel!) at Summerslam.

 

So what they could do is have Orton win at NYR. Do HBK vs Orton at the Rumble in a face vs face match, just so Orton can have a good match and get a clean win. Edge could re-start his issue with HBK by saying HBK "blew it", which of course is ironic coming from Edge.

 

Then, in the Rumble, have HHH and Batista eliminate one another (I could see something similar to what happened with Sid and Hogan in 92). That leads to HHH and Batista arguing over who should be the #1 contender; Orton plays the fearless face and challenges them both to a match at Mania, Bisch agrees, and there you go.

[Scroby 0]

I really don't think we need another triple threat match for the title at a WrestleMania. So I'm not for Batista vs HHH vs Orton at WM21.

[zyn081 0]

It'll be interesting to see what decisions are made.

 

I think it was in the Observer that Stephanie feels Orton is more over than Cena (obviously Stephanie doesn't watch the shows), but its hard to ignore the reactions Batista is getting. They've spent a lot of time building up Orton chase story, and they've already had him pin HHH at SurvSer, so he has to face HHH at some major show.

 

Ultimately, I dont think they will ignore Batista being so over, but I also dont think they will give up on Orton. Thats why I see a 3 way going down. And actually, I think thats a decent idea. You've got the issue of Evolution, and you could throw in Flair as the wildcard in the match. They could even keep with the idea of putting the title on Orton, but then have Batista and HHH spin off post Mania, and build up to Batista vs Orton (maybe he could turn back heel....please turn back heel!) at Summerslam.

 

So what they could do is have Orton win at NYR. Do HBK vs Orton at the Rumble in a face vs face match, just so Orton can have a good match and get a clean win. Edge could re-start his issue with HBK by saying HBK "blew it", which of course is ironic coming from Edge.

 

Then, in the Rumble, have HHH and Batista eliminate one another (I could see something similar to what happened with Sid and Hogan in 92). That leads to HHH and Batista arguing over who should be the #1 contender; Orton plays the fearless face and challenges them both to a match at Mania, Bisch agrees, and there you go.

Please not another triple-threat. HBK and HHH need to be out the title picture and out of the title picture soon!

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

It'll be interesting to see what decisions are made. 

 

I think it was in the Observer that Stephanie feels Orton is more over than Cena (obviously Stephanie doesn't watch the shows), but its hard to ignore the reactions Batista is getting.  They've spent a lot of time building up Orton chase story, and they've already had him pin HHH at SurvSer, so he has to face HHH at some major show. 

 

Ultimately, I dont think they will ignore Batista being so over, but I also dont think they will give up on Orton.  Thats why I see a 3 way going down.  And actually, I think thats a decent idea.  You've got the issue of Evolution, and you could throw in Flair as the wildcard in the match.  They could even keep with the idea of putting the title on Orton, but then have Batista and HHH spin off post Mania, and build up to Batista vs Orton (maybe he could turn back heel....please turn back heel!) at Summerslam.

 

So what they could do is have Orton win at NYR.  Do HBK vs Orton at the Rumble in a face vs face match, just so Orton can have a good match and get a clean win.  Edge could re-start his issue with HBK by saying HBK "blew it", which of course is ironic coming from Edge. 

 

Then, in the Rumble, have HHH and Batista eliminate one another (I could see something similar to what happened with Sid and Hogan in 92).  That leads to HHH and Batista arguing over who should be the #1 contender; Orton plays the fearless face and challenges them both to a match at Mania, Bisch agrees, and there you go.

Please not another triple-threat. HBK and HHH need to be out the title picture and out of the title picture soon!

Good luck getting that to happen.

[Guest dropkickguy]

I like the way that they are handdling the Batista face turn, as opposed to Orton's. After watching tonights RAW it seems as though they are establishing Batista as a legit World Championship contender. I like the way that he is getting inside Triple H's mind, similar to Rock/Farooq years ago. Since everyone is throwing in their fantasy booking I want to share my thoughts on how the finale of the elimination chamber should play out. It ends up with Trips vs. Batista. The fans go apeshit because they want to see Batista descimate an already tired Triple H. Trips commands Batista to do the right thing and let Trips pin him. Batista glares at Trips the fans go nuts, finally Trips snaps and strikes Batista. Batista unfazed retaliates hits the B-Bomb, the fans are on their feet, Flair goes into cardiac arrest on the outside of the EC. Batista falls to his knees and simply lies on his back and pulls Trips on top of him for the 1-2-3, ala Taz/Sabu.

Batista keeps his pledge to "help" Trips win the title. This puts the title on Trips (10x) and establishes Batista as a legit threat to Trips. Batista can say that the only reason Trips is the champ is because he allowed it and with the snap of his fingers he can take the title from him, "...don't piss me off!"

Orton wins the Rumble overiding the stipulation that he can't challenge for the world title. Trips trash talks Batista leading up to Wrestlemania because he couldn't take out Orton at the Rumble leaving viewers to question wether he will have Triple H's back at 'Mania just like before. Batista wins the IC title at Wrestlemania. Batista "inedvertedly" hits Trips at Wrestlemania costing him the title to Orton.

In analyzing this it all seems probable that Trips, Steph, and Vince would approve as:

Orton "the savior of the WWE" is champ

Trips wins the title once more, gaining ground on Flair's magic number 17

Batista is elevated to main event player though a program with Trips later

yey? nay?

[Promoter 0]

Okay, so the wwe had the "WM main event" tonight on raw. Meltzer on sports radio claimed that Orton/HHH was said to not be etched in stone for Mania. Anyone with ideas on why they gave the match on raw tonight? I think they want to see the rating for the match and go from there.

 

I'm starting to think the idea of Edge/HBK might be the world title match at Mania(with HBK being champ somehow up against Edge's "boyhood dream" with the Evolution break up being a storyline driven match. Of course, I only see HHH allowing HBK wearing the strap.

[Guest will wrestle for candy]

i could see a orton pinning batista then having an hbk "accident" heel turn at EC helping triple h with a superkick to orton that was meant for hhh in the finale of the match and that can give us a hbk v. orton at rumble...batista win rumble(they always mention him like a favorite ala kane) with a hhh v. edge championship with hhh winning ....thus leaving a hhh v. batista champ match...and a filler match for orton to further his quest for gold because they need to make him turn heel eventually for a heel orton /face batista match at backlash or whatever .....just a thought but hey what do i know i wrestle for candy

[The Czech Republic 0]

You know, I saw Orton-HHH on Raw last night and it really didn't feel like a huge confrontation of superstars. It just felt like HHH against a face. I wasn't captivated at all. That's not how anyone should feel for a Wrestlemania match.

[megaadvice 0]

It became painfully obvious after this weeks Raw it will be HHH vs Batista for the title at Mania