Star Trek: Enterprise Cancelled

[Guest wrestlingbs]

UPN just did a press release saying that the show has been cancelled and that the May 29th season finale will be the last one. With Enterprise gone, this pretty much kills the Star trek franchise, since all the other series after TOS (even Voyager in all its crappyness) ran the standard 7 year run. They could create a new series based off of Star Trek, but honestly what would be the point? Enterprise was Berman and Braga's idea to "revolutionise" the franchise after Voyager (and to a lesser extent the later TNG movies) made it a joke. Enterprise, however, was surprisingly uncompelling (my take: no edge like DS9 or later TNG episodes) and didn't catch anyone's attention. So why make another show to "revive" the franchise when Enterprise was supposed to do that in the first place?

 

Thoughts?

[2GOLD 0]

No one but Trekkies care about Star Trek since the personality of Captain William Shatner was removed.

 

With Shatner= Money!

Without Shatner= DEAD!

 

Shatner IS Star Trek.

[MrRant 0]

Shut up.

 

 

Enterprise was just starting to get good but Berman fucked it up.

 

Fans want a show set in or around the TOS or TNG/DS9 universe taking place primarily with the Alpha Quadrant so that there can be some familar races like the Klingons, Borg, Ferengi, Romulans, etc. It was insanely obvious and I have no idea why Berman decided that a before TOS show would work well. The concept works as a book or maybe a story arc but not as a standalone show.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Disappointing, but not surprising.

 

And that's all I've got to say about that.

[Jingus 0]

I used to watch TNG religiously when I was growing up, enjoyed DS9 greatly until the last couple of years, and watched TOS when nothing better was on.

 

Then came Voyager.

 

Long story short, I've never watched even one episode of Enterprise.

[Guest Flyboy]

Fuck you, guys. Voyager was tremendous.

[Matt Young 0]

I was a huge fan of TNG as a kid, but I never really watched DS9, Voyager, or Enterprise. What was TOS? I may just be missing something obvious, but I cannot recall.

[starvenger 0]

I was a huge fan of TNG as a kid, but I never really watched DS9, Voyager, or Enterprise. What was TOS? I may just be missing something obvious, but I cannot recall.

TOS = The Original Series

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I'm not surprised that it got cancelled. They should've made Enterprise into a movie instead a series. I never thought it'd have enough staying power after the novelty wore off.

 

They need to retire the series for maybe a decade before doing a new one.

[starvenger 0]

UPN just did a press release saying that the show has been cancelled and that the May 29th season finale will be the last one. With Enterprise gone, this pretty much kills the Star trek franchise, since all the other series after TOS (even Voyager in all its crappyness) ran the standard 7 year run. They could create a new series based off of Star Trek, but honestly what would be the point? Enterprise was Berman and Braga's idea to "revolutionise" the franchise after Voyager (and to a lesser extent the later TNG movies) made it a joke. Enterprise, however, was surprisingly uncompelling (my take: no edge like DS9 or later TNG episodes) and didn't catch anyone's attention. So why make another show to "revive" the franchise when Enterprise was supposed to do that in the first place?

 

Thoughts?

To be fair, I think Voyager would've been cancelled earlier had it not been heralded as the "flagship" of UPN when they first started.

 

Part of Enterprise's problem was that they were basically doing the exact same thing that TOS, TNG and Voyager were doing - exploring new life and new civilizations etc. There's only a finite number of stories you can do based on that premise, and they've done roughly 21 years worth of it.

 

DS9 worked because it was (and despite being) DIFFERENT from the other Trek shows. And what Berman and Braga learned from that is... go back to the status quo. You'd think these guys were producing Star Wars as well...

[Highland 0]

I don't think I've watched a single episode of Enterprise. Voyager was awful, TNG was good except the early seasons and DS:9, especially the later seasons, was awesome.

[SamoaRowe 0]

I always found Voyager to be hit and miss. Some episodes were really good and left me feeling satisfied while other ones would make me cringe and lunge for the remote.

 

I watched a lot of Enterprise the first year it was on, but I got bored with it by the end of it's first season.

[starvenger 0]

I don't think I've watched a single episode of Enterprise. Voyager was awful, TNG was good except the early seasons and DS:9, especially the later seasons, was awesome.

Speaking of DS9, one of the last Enterprise eps will be a Mirror Universe show, which I suppose can mean only one thing - Evil Lesbian T'Pol...

[Ripper 0]

Still baffled on how you get cancelled on UPN. I mean, its not like they can blame bad ratings...cause dude...seriously....

[starvenger 0]

Still baffled on how you get cancelled on UPN. I mean, its not like they can blame bad ratings...cause dude...seriously....

Maybe the per episode costs were too high...

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

Thank God. I hated that show from the second they broke continuity with the Ferengi showing up. I'd like to see another Star Trek(if Frakes didn't become a director he couldn't done something with his new ship) but this is most likely for the best.

[Lightning Flik 0]

Am I the only one who liked DS9 more then TNG? Cause I did. My favorite series of the Star Treks.

 

And honestly, I'm not surprised that Enterprise got cancelled, but more astonished they let it go on this long before doing so. I mean, if they (UPN) didn't care for it, then why let it take off in the first place?

[starvenger 0]

Am I the only one who liked DS9 more then TNG? Cause I did. My favorite series of the Star Treks.

I liked DS9 the best as well.

[MrRant 0]

Am I the only one who liked DS9 more then TNG? Cause I did. My favorite series of the Star Treks.

 

And honestly, I'm not surprised that Enterprise got cancelled, but more astonished they let it go on this long before doing so. I mean, if they (UPN) didn't care for it, then why let it take off in the first place?

Paramount(Viacom) owns UPN so by going for 5 years they can get better syndication deals.

 

And the episode costs were high compared to some of the other shows to be sure. The last season was all about getting some more cash when it comes time to sell it for syndication.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Fantastic News.

 

Seriously, if you want to watch Star Trek, watch The Next Generation re-runs on Spike. Anything after that is really embarassing.

 

Althopugh TNG jumped the shark with the whole Borg two-parter.

 

Seriously. The first part was tremendous. Bord comes on, kicks ass, takes Picard. A new girl challenges Riker, he has like 50 angles hitting him at once. FIRE.

 

Someone/thing needed to happen that episode. Riker needed to die or Picard needed to die or the Enterprise needed to blow up.

 

But no, evertything goes back to normal. Totally takes away the "epic" feel of the cliffhanger ending from Pt. 1.

 

But ah, good riddance Voyager. Bring back The Mullets. LONI ANDERSON and Elaine from Seinfeld's Boss Character and two guys with Mullets! YEAH!

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Wanna hear an interesting theory I have on The Mullets show, btw...

 

Hulk Hogan comes back to WWE in 2002-2003.

 

Production begins on The Mullets in 2002-2003.

 

Hulk Hogan starred in both "Thunder in Paradise" and "3 Ninjas: Assault on Devil's Mountain".

 

Who played his foils in those movies/series?

 

Loni Anderson and John O'Hurley...who just HAPPEN to be the stars of The Mullets.

 

Hogan is released from WWE in 2003.

 

The Mullets is cancelled in 2003.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

The show sucked ass, and should never have been made.

 

Voyager was years of pure shit... so what do they do? Immediatly after it ends, they start a new show... with the same producers.

 

Idiots.

 

They deserve it.

 

Thanks for ruining Star Trek you stupid douchebags.

 

Quality Trek died when DS9 ended. They should have handed the boat to Ira Steven Behr and Ron Moore (the new Battlestar is a million times better than Voy or Ent).

[Rendclaw 0]

I liked the concept of Enterprise, but it just did not hold my interest.

 

This is the plan by Paramount to mothball Star Trek, perhaps permanently minus of course syndication.

 

TNG and DS9 put a LOT of money in Paramount's pocket, and since the regime change at Paramount, the writing was on the wall for the franchise.

 

I agree with the opinion that they needed to make another series around the TNG/DS9 timeframe to keep interest high. They should have done that, but maybe Berman (in his finite wisdom) thought that he and Braga did all they could do with that... the lack of interest in the last TNG movie bears that out.

 

As for the underlying TNG-DS9 debate, TNG blazed the trail that DS9 followed, though DS9 did a far better job of telling the story and was far darker and edgier than TNG ever was. TNG didn;t really get rolling until the third season, while they started to nail things down on DS9 from the middle of the second season on.

 

Voyager was a great concept and had a good run, but they definitely jumped the shark when they brought Jeri Ryan on board, no matter how good she was to look at. By that time, the franchise itself was holding on for dear life.

 

I don;t know, this will be the first time since 1987 that there won;t be a Star Trek show on TV, and that makes me a bit sad for some reason.... or it that sadness based on the fact that I am going to have to shell out about $1500 for all of the TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager episodes on DVD?

[Highland 0]

The new series should have taken place after DS9 and been based on the newest model ship. I think it was the Prometheus or something like that. It was on one of the few Voyager episodes I liked.

[Highland 0]

I don't think I've watched a single episode of Enterprise. Voyager was awful, TNG was good except the early seasons and DS:9, especially the later seasons, was awesome.

Speaking of DS9, one of the last Enterprise eps will be a Mirror Universe show, which I suppose can mean only one thing - Evil Lesbian T'Pol...

HLA ?

 

Bischoff needs to make an appearance.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Voyagers problem was that they never really hit their stride and had identity problems where their concept was "Well they're LOST... IN SPACE!" and figured that would do and when it didn't they kept throwing shit on the wall. It was MUCH better than most people here are giving it credit for, but it didn't get rolling like DS9 and TNG did. DS9 got lucky with the Dominion storyline and which allowed them to go beyond the "It's Star Trek... BUT NO SHIP!" concept. Voyager didn't have that. What made TNG successful was that they were able to do the Star Trek cliches before they were cliches. And, of course, they had Picard as captain. And DS9 had Sisko. Janeway couldn't pull it off in the same way.

 

As for Enterprise, it takes me a while to warm to the Star Trek shows. I didn't get into DS9 until, like, it's 5th or 6th season. TNG was well over before I liked it. Voyager was in its 4th or 5th season as well. I tried to watch Enterprise but the characters kinda annoy me. I like pretty much everything Bacula does, so its not his fault. The British guy isn't that bad. But everyone else I don't much like.

[Guest CronoT]

TNG wasn't really that good until after the 3rd season or so. DS9 started out really slow, but when it took off, it took off like a bullet. Voyager started pretty strong, but it ran out of steam pretty fast. By about the 4th season, they were bringing in guest star after guest star, trying to get people to watch the show for the guest stars. Once that wore off, the series went down the crapper fast.

 

I watched maybe 2 or 3 episodes of Enterprise, and never looked back. Scott Bakula got me interested in it at first, too, but there are times when you just can't rise above your material.

 

Personally, I think they should do a DS9 movie, based on the book Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Unity. That's the book where Sisko comes back out of the Celestial Temple.

[starvenger 0]

DS9 got lucky with the Dominion storyline and which allowed them to go beyond the "It's Star Trek... BUT NO SHIP!" concept.

I agree that they got lucky with the Dominion storyline, but I think the thing that allowed it to catch fire was the fact that the Dominion became THE running storyline thereafter. If they were introduced in TNG or Voyager they'd have been done in 3 episodes at most. But again, DS9 was pretty much left alone, and Ira Behr was allowed to run with it.

 

Personally, I think they should do a DS9 movie, based on the book Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Unity. That's the book where Sisko comes back out of the Celestial Temple.

They should've gone with Peter David's "New Frontier" series. They really should've done something more with Shelby.

[Jericholic82 0]

Wanna hear an interesting theory I have on The Mullets show, btw...

 

Hulk Hogan comes back to WWE in 2002-2003.

 

Production begins on The Mullets in 2002-2003.

 

Hulk Hogan starred in both "Thunder in Paradise" and "3 Ninjas: Assault on Devil's Mountain".

 

Who played his foils in those movies/series?

 

Loni Anderson and John O'Hurley...who just HAPPEN to be the stars of The Mullets.

 

Hogan is released from WWE in 2003.

 

The Mullets is cancelled in 2003.

damn you hulkster, I actually kinda liked the mullets. All those commercials hyping it during sd and in the first ep they went to a wwe show (they calle dit wrestlemania, clearly it was raw it had a dudleys vs la rez match)

 

then its gets canned

 

 

im still angry that wb canceled grounded for life in the middle of the season yet other crap like whatever else is on fridays there stays on

[Vyce 0]

I'm not surprised. When the show debuted, they hyped it up, and it took them maybe three weeks before they began running plots / scripts that were nearly identical to the stuff they'd done before - in virtually EVERY ONE of the previous four series. When you're dealing with the fifth franchise show, you need something new.

 

When they tried to shake things up, Berman resorted to his old tactic of ripping off Joe Michael Straczynski with the whole "Earth has been attacked, we must embark on a mission to save it!" storyline.

 

The characters were pretty good, and the actors did their jobs well, they were all just hampered by very poor creative storytelling.