Jingus 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 You can't see anything humiliating in getting beaten in five seconds by a non-wrestler ? Not if they're given a finishing move by a serious wrestler six seconds beforehand, no. I've gotten pinned by a girl in a fifteen-second match, I wasn't humiliated. Getting kicked in the stomach hurts too, but no one gets pinned from that. What about every single time HBK's used Sweet Chin Music on anyone taller than 6'3"? There have been a few other cases. In what might've been the worst match ever released by Colisseum Video (think about what THAT means) Kendo Nagasaki beat Jim Duggan with a halfassed thrust kick to the chest. And Nobuhiku Takada once shoot knocked out Bob Backlund with a massive shot right to the solar plexus. In the words of Jake Roberts: "You could use a headlock for a finish, if nobody ever got out of it. They'd be chanting "HEAD-LOCK! HEAD-LOCK!"." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 To be fair, Duggan did get kicked right in the balls before that kick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Anyone jobbing to Hogan's legdrop. I've never understood that. A 300-pound man crashes down on your neck. You'd get pinned, too. Not only that, he's booked as a SUPERHERO who is drawing more money than anyone in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 some other losses: - Bossman getting pinned in 3 seconds against The Rock. - RVD beign pinned after and elbow drop from Bubba at the Heat before WM 19. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Bossman getting pinned in 3 seconds against The Rock. How is that humiliating? 1. It's the BOSSMAN. 2. It's THE ROCK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Especially since they revealed later that the Corporation was secretly rigging all of Rock's matches that night anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Anytime a Tag Team (especially the Champions) do clean jobs to someone in a Handicap Match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 yeah but still, Bossman was making his return to the WWF by that time and that made him look like crap. It made sense by the end of the night but come on, it still looked bad. How is that humiliating? 1. It's the BOSSMAN. 2. It's THE ROCK. he was not THE ROCK yet, not the SUPER superstar that he is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 But he was still THE BOSSMAN. Anytime a Tag Team (especially the Champions) do clean jobs to someone in a Handicap Match. This drives me right up the wall. I HATE handicapped matches, because 99% of the time, the guy with the handicap wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 La Resistance isn't that big so the job to Batista.. I dont really care for.. but its when Edge and Christian were losing to the Undertaker non-stop.. that pissed me off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 But he was still THE BOSSMAN. Click here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted February 9, 2005 By 1998, the Bossman was way past his prime (he'd been stinking up the ring since mid-1995), and it again wasn't a serious loss, considering less than 2 hours later it was revealed the first 2 rounds were fixed for the Rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 - RVD beign pinned after and elbow drop from Bubba at the Heat before WM 19. Hey, I remember that. What was worse though: jobbing to an elbow, or being left off the card in favour of Miller Lite girls? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 well i guess that by the end of the night it was all right. another one that i find really humiliating is the Bulldog losing to HBK at One Night Only, i felt bad for him after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 The FBI losing to Taker. Did any of them ever get any offense in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 For a recent one, how about both tag team champions losing and getting dominated by one guy (La Rez/Batista and Bashams/Show)? Not going to be a lasting memory, but boy that doesn't make the tag divisions seems strong at all, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spman 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Steve Austin losing to Jim Duggan in seven seconds yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I HATE handicapped matches, because 99% of the time, the guy with the handicap wins. That's why I like that NAO v. Mankind handicapped match, I think from SummerSlam 98, where Mankind and Kane were tag champs, but also feuding, and Mankind was in the middle of a face turn. Like, you pretty much expected Mankind to pull off the huge babyface upset, but instead the NAO just murdered him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Jake Roberts getting squashed by the Undertaker. This doesn't count. Jake was going to WCW and wrestling protocall says when a wrestler leaves he must job his final days. So this was the WWF's way of burying him(pun fully intended) I think it counts. I've never been a fan of burying wrestlers on their way out of the company. Plus, they really ruined the DDT's mystique by having The Undertaker no-sell THREE of them. I suppose I just wish that the angle had a better ending, Jake was one of the first guys to make Taker look human. Remember when he locked Taker's hand in the casket and DDT'd Bearer? That was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Why shouldn't they job out someone who's leaving? What about all the people who jobbed to the DDT to get Jake over as a superstar? He didn't have to work there after Wrestlemania; Taker did. And so what if he no-sold the (two) DDTs? Taker was supposed to be dead back then. Goofy as it was, he no-sold everyone and everything that was thrown at him, that was his gimmick and it got him massively over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Why shouldn't they job out someone who's leaving? What about all the people who jobbed to the DDT to get Jake over as a superstar? He didn't have to work there after Wrestlemania; Taker did. And so what if he no-sold the (two) DDTs? Taker was supposed to be dead back then. Goofy as it was, he no-sold everyone and everything that was thrown at him, that was his gimmick and it got him massively over. I don't know why, but that match has always bothered me. I remember as a kid I was very letdown by it. I suppose that was because I was such a big mark for BOTH Jake and Taker back in the day and wanted to see something more. Or maybe I just really liked the DDT—who knows? As for the Undertaker's gimmick during the time, I liked it better back then. It was more...subtle. Rather than being a zombie, Taker was just a big, scary guy who didn't seem to feel pain and had a macabre theme. I always wanted to know more about this mysterious character and his weird manager during my younger years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 You can't see anything humiliating in getting beaten in five seconds by a non-wrestler ? Not if they're given a finishing move by a serious wrestler six seconds beforehand, no. I've gotten pinned by a girl in a fifteen-second match, I wasn't humiliated. If a normal match ended in five seconds with one guy hitting a big move and getting the pin right away, it would be a squash match. Not only is that what happened to DDP, with Undi hitting the chokeslam before the bell, but his wife scored the pin. The wife getting the pinfall is what makes it humiliating. And I'd like to know in what circumstances getting beaten in 15 seconds by a girl isn't humiliating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quit Calling My Mama 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Getting beaten by a GUY in a matter of seconds isn't neccessarily humiliating. It actually makes sense. Wrestlers don't usually use their finisher straight away so the other person isn't expecting it at all. Of course that raises the question of why everyone doesn't hit their finisher imediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Getting beaten by a GUY in a matter of seconds isn't neccessarily humiliating. I never said it was. One wrestler beating another in five seconds with one move is a squash. It's when the person getting the pin is someone's wife that makes it humiliating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Steve Austin losing to Jim Duggan in seven seconds yet. It was 27 seconds and I believe Austin was injured, but I'd still have to agree that that would count as humiliating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Austin was not injured. Steamboat was, he forieted the belt to Austin who then lost to Duggan. This isn't so much one humiliating loss but the Hogan/Flair feud in 94 was pretty humilating for Flair. I just watched Halloween Havoc 94, Hogan got 90% of the offense, no sold any leg work that Flair did, pinned him to end his career and then they went right into the Brutus turningon Hogan angle with Tenta debuting. The only person who sold the inportance of Flair's loss or put him over on the show was Bobby Heenan and he was basically told to shut up by Tony. Why FLair agreed to all the shit they put him through is beyond me. He jobbed in to Hogan in a strap match that he wasn't even in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 If a normal match ended in five seconds with one guy hitting a big move and getting the pin right away, it would be a squash match. Not only is that what happened to DDP, with Undi hitting the chokeslam before the bell, but his wife scored the pin. The wife getting the pinfall is what makes it humiliating. But my point is, why does it matter who pinned him? He just took a fucking chokeslam on the floor. Hermoine Granger could've pinned him after that. And I'd like to know in what circumstances getting beaten in 15 seconds by a girl isn't humiliating. Considering that to achieve the said pinfall I had Tracy Brook's mighty mammaries pressing down on my face and her arm wrapped between my legs, so really I couldn't have cared less about any "humiliation". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Love the Hermione Granger name drop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Me too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted February 10, 2005 If a normal match ended in five seconds with one guy hitting a big move and getting the pin right away, it would be a squash match. Not only is that what happened to DDP, with Undi hitting the chokeslam before the bell, but his wife scored the pin. The wife getting the pinfall is what makes it humiliating. But my point is, why does it matter who pinned him? He just took a fucking chokeslam on the floor. Hermoine Granger could've pinned him after that. And I'd like to know in what circumstances getting beaten in 15 seconds by a girl isn't humiliating. Considering that to achieve the said pinfall I had Tracy Brook's mighty mammaries pressing down on my face and her arm wrapped between my legs, so really I couldn't have cared less about any "humiliation". This was a good point (and random with the name dropping). A chokeslam, outside the ring, onto maybe half an inch of padding. I think that would knock anyone out. It's not like Sara did the move and pinned him. Undertaker beat the piss out of DDP outside the ring, tosses him back in, and Sara covers 2 seconds later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites