The Current Events folder. It's a lot like Hitler.

[bob_barron 0]

INXS is pbp hunger4unger.

 

I wouldn't care if you ban any on my list, it's just when people things like Mike's banning was a long time coming blah blah- it makes me think of other people who still post and are really really terrible.

[Guest Vitamin X]

We can add Carnivalizcoming to that list, too.

 

Also, to Slapnuts!: Just because we don't post frequently in there, doesn't mean we don't see what's going on. I post every once and a while in there, so long as the threads aren't just partisan bickering (which lately it hasn't been.. or at least not nearly as bad as last year especially around election time) and wouldn't mind bringing a little bit of humor to the table instead of angry flaming and shit all the time. A kinder, gentler Mike returned after that hiatus he took post-election, but the neocon monster in him would roar back into action from time to time, and it was pretty irritating.

 

I'll kind of miss him in an Anglesault kind of way, they're very much the same kind of poster.

[KingPK 0]

But threads in CE when Mike got involved usually ended up with him and one other person going on...and on....and on....and on dissecting each other's posts line by line by line for like two or three pages. That gets fucking tedious to read and completely turned me (and others probably) from posting in there with any regularity.

[Styles 0]

It's just the point I'm trying to make is this place is almost split into 2 different worlds. A poster could post primarily in NHB with threads like "I'm really fucked up right now. Discuss." and other useless ridiculousness that is just meant for laughs and stupidity. By posting like this you don't open yourself up to this problem. By posting in CE, you're challenging peoples view points and defending your own, that leads to confrontation. That's why I think it's a little unfair and that CE should be modded seperately. If the excuse is that he ventured into the Movies folder, that should have been dealt with a year ago not now so arbitrarily...

[bob_barron 0]

But threads in CE when Mike got involved usually ended up with him and one other person going on...and on....and on....and on dissecting each other's posts line by line by line for like two or three pages. That gets fucking tedious to read and completely turned me (and others probably) from posting in there with any regularity.

Ignoring that some of those were stupid shit with RobotJerk..

 

 

isn't that a good thing?

 

I mean shouldn't TSM be about discussion and debate? It may not have been easy to read but I thought that's what this board is for.

 

And I like said, this is not counting those back and forths where Mike didn't understand to just ignore people.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Kingpk speaks exactly what I was thinking regarding CE. I know that if I saw a new topic there that went for more than 2-3 pages, it was Mike and another poster in a flamewar, unless it was a major news story.

 

Honestly, the "Islam is nothing more than a death cult." is as good a recent example as any of what Mike can think of on his own, which is reason enough for the banning.

[Styles 0]

But threads in CE when Mike got involved usually ended up with him and one other person going on...and on....and on....and on dissecting each other's posts line by line by line for like two or three pages. That gets fucking tedious to read and completely turned me (and others probably) from posting in there with any regularity.

No offense, but if you can't take the heat...

 

I don't see how "he generated long back and forth discussion" is grounds for banning.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Well, ok there's one regular that supports it.

I've been begging for it for months now. Mike acted at times like he owned the forums. Posts that disagreed with him but didn't really have anything factually incorrect were always met with snippy comments about how much smarter he is than you, because hey, if you were smart, you would be agreeing with him by now. It's like a TV talk show host that tells people "If I cared what you think, you'd have a television show."

 

I have seen him, sometimes, dispute valid information or resort to questioning sources that would be acceptable anywhere outside FreeRepublic just to avoid admitting that he is wrong.

 

When he announced his leaving, I told him that the board would get better, until he would come back because he'll be starved for attention. CE did get much more civil, and sure enough, when almost nobody commented on Mike's Blog for about two months or so, he came crawling back and get the flames he craves. Everyone else in CE, myself included, shares a little bit of the blame for giving it to him, but he's everywhere, so what can you expect?

 

Also, he's the only guy on CE I've seen that insults you for disagreeing with him as he rebuts your arguement. I learned to stop worrying about his attacks, because an insult from him didn't really hurt since I hold him in such a low regard.

 

I dance a little jig because CE no longer has a poster with the "all-talk, no-listen" personality of a partisan radio host, and that's all I got to say about that. MEGADITTOES, Mike, whatever haunt you decide to infest next.

[Guest Brian]

It's not like he was limited to CE.

[Styles 0]

Honestly, the "Islam is nothing more than a death cult." is as good a recent example as any of what Mike can think of on his own, which is reason enough for the banning.

I put in "Cult Of Death" for a google image search recently and most of the pictures come up of Muslims with guns or suicide straps and such. It's not an original thought. If you had a problem with it, challenge him on it. Just because it made you uncomfortable doesn't mean there might not be some truth to it...

[Guest Vitamin X]

It's just the point I'm trying to make is this place is almost split into 2 different worlds. A poster could post primarily in NHB with threads like "I'm really fucked up right now. Discuss." and other useless ridiculousness that is just meant for laughs and stupidity. By posting like this you don't open yourself up to this problem. By posting in CE, you're challenging peoples view points and defending your own, that leads to confrontation. That's why I think it's a little unfair and that CE should be modded seperately. If the excuse is that he ventured into the Movies folder, that should have been dealt with a year ago not now so arbitrarily...

So, because people are posting what's expected of them to post in the appropriate folders, this is a problem? I don't get your point. Of course HD (dammit people it hasn't been NHB for well over a year now) is going to have silly, pointless threads. That's why it's there. CE is meant to create topics that can get pretty heated at times because of the nature of discussion. It's not like there's not enough warning at the top of both places. What's your point?

[Styles 0]

My point is "Poster A" could be a TERRIBLE poster but since he limits himself to stupidity in HD and doesn't ever try to have important discussion about relevant issues, he doesn't open himself up to the possibility of an argument getting heated and doesn't risk banning.

 

Poster B (or Mike in this case) is mostly in CE constantly challenging, presenting his own ideas and arguing things out, this leads to confrontation and makes him a victim of a banning even though as a poster in terms of intelligence, discussion, relevance, etc. he's a better poster then "Poster A".

 

That's not right.

[Styles 0]

Anyway, I've made my point, as have others. What's done is done (unless the mods overturn it). I'm getting a headache and it's late. It's not like I'm the guy's attorney or something...

[KingPK 0]

Mike just took "heated discussion" and turned it into "You're an idiot because you don't agree with my view, which is the right one."

 

I would think that this would be a benefit for CE. Now all the other posters who want to offer opinions on things can debate freely without having to fear Mike stomping in and taking things over (which you have to admit that he had a tendency to do).

[Guest Vitamin X]

Honestly, the "Islam is nothing more than a death cult." is as good a recent example as any of what Mike can think of on his own, which is reason enough for the banning.

I put in "Cult Of Death" for a google image search recently and most of the pictures come up of Muslims with guns or suicide straps and such. It's not an original thought. If you had a problem with it, challenge him on it. Just because it made you uncomfortable doesn't mean there might not be some truth to it...

I put in "Cult of Death" in a Google Image search, and came up with this:

as the second most relevant search result. Conclusion? That's a pretty weak argument, not just for the silliness of the search results you'll get, but that because an opinion is a popular one, doesn't make it right.

[Styles 0]

One last point (OMG TRIPLE POST~!)

 

I'm a big TNA shill in the TNA folder, who likes to get positive discussion generated there. Mike constantly would come in and offer up a negative view point, one that I usually disagreed with. And I didn't have a problem with it and certainly didn't whine for his banning. I realised it offers up another view point and generates discussion allowing both sides to be heard.

 

Goodnight.

[Guest Vitamin X]

My point is "Poster A" could be a TERRIBLE poster but since he limits himself to stupidity in HD and doesn't ever try to have important discussion about relevant issues, he doesn't open himself up to the possibility of an argument getting heated and doesn't risk banning.

 

Poster B (or Mike in this case) is mostly in CE constantly challenging, presenting his own ideas and arguing things out, this leads to confrontation and makes him a victim of a banning even though as a poster in terms of intelligence, discussion, relevance, etc. he's a better poster then "Poster A".

 

That's not right.

How is that not right? If poster A went into CE and then offered an intelligent opinion, he would be just fine. But since he doesn't, and limits himself to an area where he can fuck around all he likes and his behavior is tolerated in there, then why is that a bad thing? If Poster B acts like a self-righteous prick and draws out discussion past its expiration due to a reluctance to admitting he's wrong, regardless of his behavior is limited to one folder or many of them, he's still a terrible poster. But there's no way to prove that another poster who's only doing what's expected of his behavior in that folder that he'll act in a similar fashion in other ones.

[IllustriousOne 0]

i think llooooney got banned because he was bbcow

[The Czech Republic 0]

I would think that this would be a benefit for CE. Now all the other posters who want to offer opinions on things can debate freely without having to fear Mike stomping in and taking things over (which you have to admit that he had a tendency to do).

Who's afraid of the big bad Mike?

[The Czech Republic 0]

Anyway this was a shitty excuse for a banning. Unless there's some devastating racial slur (I initially typed racial slut--freudian typo!!) or something that just offends everyone, sort of like PBPbutHereAnyway Coey's thing about how he wished we died in the twin towers, then I think the CE regulars should just be left to their own devices and not heavily moderated.

 

And yeah, "he derailed a Fat Mikey movie thread last year" is pretty weak. If that was such a big deal, you should have done it then.

[MrRant 0]

At least we will know what the threads are about now in the titles....

[The Czech Republic 0]

At least we will know what the threads are about now in the titles....

Ironic that a thread title slamming RobotJerk's dumb analogies is actually about the CE loudmouth from the other side getting the boot.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Mike was the complete picture of the intellectual elitism that CE "regulars" carry about themselves. A majority of these regulars happen to agree with Mike and find him an asset to discussion (read: ringleader who they can hide behind like kids with MD hiding behind the kid with scoliosis that has a pointy stick), so now those who didn't like Mike and wanted him banned that weren't regular posters are idiots and morons. That's a terrific way to undermine your arguments, people. Also, the Farenheit 9/11 thread is being brought up more by people who support him than those against him. Are you convincing us or yourselves?

 

You forget his bitching about Marney's self-imposed exile and slight overreaction, to put it gently.

 

You forget his sole moment of vulnerability when he told his sordid tale of being shitkicked by his girlfriend, and then proceeded to lash out at everyone who commented in an unsympathetic way, despite his posting this on a public forum for all to see.

 

You forget the countless "complete idiot"s, "fucking moron"s, "retard"s, all in reference to whoever disagreed with him.

 

You forget the many other times it's been brought up and discussed and argued about by the Staff and posting public itself. For supposed lovers of freedom and democracy to the degree they'll execute bannable behavior for years, a majority movement against of of them becomes "mob rule?" Okay then.

 

You forget all the times he "wouldn't care" about a topic and then return immediately to hijack it for himself.

 

You forget how many people have said Mike drove them from CE, myself staying away for over a year before returning recently with the current trend towards less one-side-or-the-other crap.

 

I don't give a shit about how well someone types so long as they're understandable, and Mike is the greatest cultivator of a false air of intelligence, using a large vocabulary and a condescending attitude for any living creature that didn't agree with him. Without search engines and proper wording, he'd never be considered more than the sticky wad inside of the Kleenexes being clutched by his little followers. It's the elimination of the second greatest poison I've seen here behind Anglesault, who also exhibited 80% of the same qualities.

 

This decision was long in being made, and that's that.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Say what you will about him. I'm not exactly going to party over all this. Mike's not in a position to read this anyways.

 

Mike was probably the most stubborn person around the board.

 

Getting into discussions with him was not a great idea for some. For myself, I didn't care. It was pointless for me to continue discussions with him, but it's not like I had something more important to do.

 

Here's a few Mike-related things I remember (not counting the long thread I put in NHB)

 

#1 - The NAACP is as bad as the KKK (which was a huge logic reach)

#2 - Tom DeLay isn't as bad as Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy or an NAACP member

#3 - I'm bad for not being angry with Robert Byrd

#4 - Judges make laws all the time

#5 - Being able to throw random references to his home state at him (randomly or not)

 

Was I the biggest offender when it came to long arguments with the guy? probably

 

Does it matter to me that i'm not mentioned as a "Bad Liberal who needs a banning"? Nope.. I really haven't been active enough to earn that anyways.

 

His actions in the F9/11 thread were pretty much flamebaiting, considering the location of the thread.

 

At least Mike didn't like Strom Thurmond.

 

I think the line when it comes to bannings is the line between being reasonable and being an assclown. You can discuss politics, even in a heated manner, without being an assclown. I think that Mike was an ass at times, but then again, I am not in a position where my judgement there matters.

 

Mike will float on and live on.

 

Ya know, half the complaining here is probably because this was anti-climatic.

 

But i'm probably wrong

-=Rob

...Someone will step into Mike's shoes anyways

[Special K 0]

I'm a liberal who actually agred with Mike sometimes, (mostly on the judges being crazy thing), and while I agree that when he was wrong he restorted to the lamest flaming inaginable, banning him is shit. This is really crappy, mods.

[The Czech Republic 0]

ringleader who they can hide behind like kids with MD hiding behind the kid with scoliosis that has a pointy stick

Probably more tasteless than MikeSC's last month of posts.

 

Without search engines and proper wording, he'd never be considered more than the sticky wad inside of the Kleenexes being clutched by his little followers.

Mature.

 

This decision was long in being made, and that's that.

Shortest tenured moderator, layin' down the muthafuckin' LAW.

 

You forgot to say "That's IT. Thread CLOSED."

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

Sass had once me do that and I did when Choken was banned. So:

 

Trivia247

LooneyTune

RobotJerk if he keeps acting like an idiot

INXS

Shadow

fanofcoils

 

That's 6.

INXS is hilarious in his awfulness though. Fanofcoils is the guy that had the dream match thread right? That was a classic. pure hilarity. I hadn't laughed at something so much at tsm in a year.

 

Robo and Looneytune got banned, I think Shadow did too. I don;t really know who Robotjerk is. Trivia is someone who would be cool to see go.

 

I like seeing so many people bitch about "All the bannings" when the only people banned so far are pbp's, and Mike, someone who probably had more "ban him" threads/pms dedicated towards him than Anglesault.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Well, I read through this thread with an open mind and came to the conclusion that Mike was banned for derailing a thread that took place nearly a year ago.

 

Okie Dokie.

 

Tyler was right when he said you mods are terrible. I could understand giving Mike a warning for that 9/11 thread, even though I thought it was funny as hell, but to just go “OK, let’s ban him because he had it coming” is downright stupid.

 

With all the GW Bush/Palpatine/HITLER talk that’s been going on here as of late, I think I would prefer a TSM dictatorship with a Dr. Tom at the helm. At least then we’ll know where we stand in terms of getting the boot…

 

Enough, We the Conservative Brigade of The Smart Marks Current Events Folder Hold these truths to be Self Evidence that all Posters Shall be treated equally, and therefore have the right to post without fear of banning! We hereby reject the tyranny of the Modship Royal Crown and form a militia to defend our freedoms and extend our grieavnces for unfair banning practices lest we secede from the board as per the undersiged...Slapnuts! (add your names and defend your liberty!)

 

Well, I was going to edit this a bit to mention that all these self-evident truths only apply to a certain ethnicity, but I won’t because I don’t want to get banned over it eight weeks from now.

 

As you were, soldiers (Did Mike ever have a title in the CB [was he even a member?], because if so, somebody’s getting a promotion.)

 

Now all the other posters who want to offer opinions on things can debate freely without having to fear Mike stomping in and taking things over.

 

Read: Now other people can say what they want without fear of getting called on it...

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

Enough, We the Conservative Brigade of The Smart Marks Current Events Folder Hold these truths to be Self Evidence that all Posters Shall be treated equally, and therefore have the right to post without fear of banning! We hereby reject the tyranny of the Modship Royal Crown and form a militia to defend our freedoms and extend our grieavnces for unfair banning practices lest we secede from the board as per the undersiged...Slapnuts! (add your names and defend your liberty!)

 

 

That's even more pathetic then your reaction to FS's post a couple of months ago.

[2GOLD 0]

Why did the Revolutionaries go from those cool suits in the bottom picture to the prissy little white pants in the battle picture?

It's such a disappointing downgrade.