humongous2002 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 How is WWE going to be able to build new stars if HHH is always pushed as the one and only main eventer in the entire WWE roster? Batista won't get to see his full potential as a top guy as long as HHH is around, Benoit and Goldberg are proof of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 I'm thinking WWE never had huge plans for Goldberg in the first place...more or less just milking a cash cow...wasn't he vocal even before they signed him that he wasn't huge on being a wrestler anymore? it actually makes sense to NOT invest a lot of time and effort in guy that feels that way...use him to boost a few buys, a few sales, then move him along...that's business... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 HBK in this scenario IS RIGHT because he was in much worse shape when he put AUSTIN OVER at WrestleMania 14. People were expecting a star bonanza with that match before it got out that HBK was banged up too. You didn't see them put another wrestler in there with that excuse. Didn't Shawn Michaels refuse to do that job until Undertaker threaten to knock the shit out of him if he didn't? He didn't refuse to do the job. He was just making noise that maybe he wasn't going to go through with it. Probably to start controversy more than anything else, Shawn made it known that, even with his injury, he was thinking of not dropping the belt. Taker went up to him and made it clear that if Shawn didn't job in the ring, he would be jobbing backstage instead. Even if Shawn wasn't necessarily being serious, Taker took it seriously anyway. I doubt Shawn really considered not dropping the belt to Austin at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Triple H's motivation is simple, he wants to be mentioned in the same breath as Hogan, Rock, Austin and Flair. Unfortunately, he will probably triple Flair's record before that ever happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Surely thought he knows the people will never think of him like that because of his marriage to Steph. He can't be foolish enough to think that 20 years from now people will have forgotten about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Not to mention he's made himself to be the most decorated wrestler of all time. + Grand Slam Champion + WWE/World Champion (10) + IC Champ + Tag Team Champion + European Champion + Wrestlemania Main Event (5) + Retired Mick Foley + Defeated Stone Cold Steve Austin (clean) + Unmasked Kane + '97 King of the Ring + Married to Stephanie McMahon (daughter of WWE Owner Vince McMahon) + Formed Evolution and Degeneration X + Managed by Ric Flair + Praised by Hulk Hogan + Hell In The Cell (undefeated) + 2-1 in the Elimination Chamber + Acted in Blade 3 Of course, he did some of this stuff back when I actually liked him. Ho...ly shit. HHH is the most decorated wrestler in WWE history, no question. But, with all those accolades from the WWE *alone*, I think he could even give guys from Japan like Inoki, Baba, Takada, Liger, Hokuto, etc. a run for their money. Good crap. I never realized he had all this under his fucking belt until now. Yeesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Didn't Shawn Michaels refuse to do that job until Undertaker threaten to knock the shit out of him if he didn't? He didn't refuse to do the job. He was just making noise that maybe he wasn't going to go through with it. Probably to start controversy more than anything else, Shawn made it known that, even with his injury, he was thinking of not dropping the belt. Taker went up to him and made it clear that if Shawn didn't job in the ring, he would be jobbing backstage instead. Even if Shawn wasn't necessarily being serious, Taker took it seriously anyway. I doubt Shawn really considered not dropping the belt to Austin at that point. Believe it or not, Shawn was serious about not wanting to drop the title. He hated doing jobs, and this one was no exception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Everyone is forgetting Triple H's REAL motivation: he's a selfish little shit who thinks he DESERVES to be on the top regardless of his ruining the WWE these last four years. WORSE he's utlra-fucking paranoid skullcunt shitface regarding the fact that he might lose his his "God" status if anyone else is given a chance to become popular, since HHH is still a bitter cuntface regarding the fact that both Steve Austin and The Rock both became INSANELY popular in spite of the WWE marking HHH as their top guy. Anything else is just Triple H's way to cover up his evil, cancerous nature. He doesn't give a fuck about the WWE being around and surviving for future decades, he's purposely burn the company to the ground and run it out of business that give up the spotlight.... Ditto. However, HHH probably considers himself an "athlete" like all prima donna bodybuilders do so the jock insecurity is probably strong in him. WWE contracts are a bitch though and heels make less moolah with those deals than the faces do. He's always going to kewl it up as a heel. That still won't cover-up for his crummy promo ability though. The Hurricane is never gone turn heel. Helms is riding a gravy train with the Hurricane gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Not to mention he's made himself to be the most decorated wrestler of all time. + Grand Slam Champion + WWE/World Champion (10) + IC Champ + Tag Team Champion + European Champion + Wrestlemania Main Event (5) + Retired Mick Foley + Defeated Stone Cold Steve Austin (clean) + Unmasked Kane + '97 King of the Ring + Married to Stephanie McMahon (daughter of WWE Owner Vince McMahon) + Formed Evolution and Degeneration X + Managed by Ric Flair + Praised by Hulk Hogan + Hell In The Cell (undefeated) + 2-1 in the Elimination Chamber + Acted in Blade 3 Of course, he did some of this stuff back when I actually liked him. Ho...ly shit. HHH is the most decorated wrestler in WWE history, no question. But, with all those accolades from the WWE *alone*, I think he could even give guys from Japan like Inoki, Baba, Takada, Liger, Hokuto, etc. a run for their money. Good crap. I never realized he had all this under his fucking belt until now. Yeesh. I also forgot he is a Royal Rumble winner also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2005 The funniest thing is that Triple H, the character, is now a delusional psychopath. He tells Batista that he has to beat him to prove himself just the night after he beat Trips for the SECOND time. Batista says no way, I want a new challenger, so Trips comes out this Monday and says "You want me so bad? HELL IN A CELL!" to a huge non-reaction. If the real life Hunter is as delusional as his character than you have an explantion for his actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2005 They should also not let HHH be the prime mover in the feud with Batista. Batista got over because HHH would mouth off with his shit, and Batista would say something simple and cutting to make HHH look like a tool, without saving face. And when the turn happened, it was Batista that made the split by powerbombing HHH (as opposed to Orton, who was tossed out). Batista should have been the one to demand HIAC. "Not only will I beat you, I will beat you in your own match." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2005 Trips challenging Batista really sucks for Batista. The only things he can do are say "no" again and look like a coward or give Trips ANOTHER match and look like even a bigger fool than he already does for falling for Flair's trick. They always book it to show that Hunter is up for any challenge, but Batista is almost a failure as champion and they can't afford to keep making mistakes with his title reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ransome Report post Posted May 27, 2005 Triple H's motivation is simple, he wants to be mentioned in the same breath as Hogan, Rock, Austin and Flair. Unfortunately, he will probably triple Flair's record before that ever happens. Exactly. I can't believe people in this thread have said that WWE 'needs' or 'is better' with HHH. If anything, that's exactly the answer HHH has tried to condition fans to believe. Maybe he truly thinks that centring the entire WWE universe around himself will be beneficial to the company - the reality is, in the long run, it's only going to be beneficial for himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danville_Wrestling 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2005 When Triple H started his first world title reign I had no problems with the guy but he started rubbing me the wrong way when he ruined the WrestleMania XVI main event by winning the four-way dance against the Big Show, the Rock, and Mick Foley and was the first heel champ to leave WrestleMania with the belt. I got a big "wtf" moment after watching that show. However, if people really want to do something and if TNA is coming back on WGN on Monday nights just turn the channel to that if HHH comes out for an interview. Maybe people can use ratings to influence the WWE direction, who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2005 Well, if you believe Shawn Michaels, the WWE have never cared about what the ratings do anyway. The key part of that statement being of course, if you believe Shawn Michaels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 New Triple H rumor (let's please NOT start any more threads about the guy)... Sources report that a quiet rivalry between Triple H and John Cena has developed over the past several months. HHH has reportedly given the impression that he doesn't view Cena as a good leader, nor does he feel Cena is dedicated to his role as WWE Champion. HHH has a history of attacking those who feels are not taking the job seriously, and it seems Cena aligns with such wrestlers. John Cena, on the other hand, simply doesn't like HHH. While the two can coexist in the same room, the heat is said to be undeniable. Although plans can change, there is belief that the heat between Cena and Triple H will prevent the two from ending up on the same roster after the draft. Most are of the impression that Cena will only properly develop as a true star if he's not forced to share a lockerroom and television program with HHH. Source: PWTorch.com Newsletter http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005/articles/1117343290.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Ah, NOW will come the test, if this is true, as to where Vince's loyalties lie. I've heard people say 'Vince cares more about Stephanie being happy than his own company' and 'when it comes to the crunch, Vince will put his company first' - So if any problems do arise, what will Vince do? Son-In-Law, or the man he's moulding into the possible future of the WWE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 29, 2005 New Triple H rumor (let's please NOT start any more threads about the guy)... Sources report that a quiet rivalry between Triple H and John Cena has developed over the past several months. HHH has reportedly given the impression that he doesn't view Cena as a good leader, nor does he feel Cena is dedicated to his role as WWE Champion. HHH has a history of attacking those who feels are not taking the job seriously, and it seems Cena aligns with such wrestlers. John Cena, on the other hand, simply doesn't like HHH. While the two can coexist in the same room, the heat is said to be undeniable. Although plans can change, there is belief that the heat between Cena and Triple H will prevent the two from ending up on the same roster after the draft. Most are of the impression that Cena will only properly develop as a true star if he's not forced to share a lockerroom and television program with HHH. Source: PWTorch.com Newsletter http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005/articles/1117343290.php So in other words, Trips is protecting his spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 The comment about John Cena not being a good WWE champion is totally uncalled for. Everything he's had to deal with the past few weeks, he's done a great job with it. The SHIT load of apperances he's done and the amount of pressure. Hell, even the bladejob he did on the PPV. And the fact when he won the belt at Mania 21, he wasn't even given the accolades like Batista. I think he's holding up just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Besides, he's done more crossover promotion in the past few months than Triple H has done in his entire career. Of course he's jealous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Not to mention that the man that Hunter is help "making", Batista, is basically in failure levels at this point. Cena's doing much better with his reign, which may be because he is being booked as the focal point of all the Smackdown shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Or maybe because he's being kept away from Trips. Anything the man touches turns to shit it seems. Even Steph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Funny how HHH's hate is directed towards Cena, you'd think he'd hate on JBL for making Cena look better then he has done w/ Batista. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desperate Housewife Report post Posted May 29, 2005 You're all reading way too much into this shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 haha. The link right below that HHH article says "Bret Hart on RAW from Canada?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 I suppose we should wait for Meltzer before we get out of shape over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 Cena has bigger looking arms than HHH. He also has a better midsection as well. I'm not surprised HHH would feel threatened by Cena. It's all about the looks in the WWE and, right now, Cena has the best look out of any other WWE worker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angelus 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 I remember that a few months back there was some talk about Stephanie McMahon not believing in Cena, she said that he doesn't have what it takes to be a viable world champion. It was Vince who push for him to win the belt at Wrestlemania since he feels Cena can bring new people to see the WWE televesion with his crossover appeal ( Music & Movie ) So yes, it's possible that HHH fears Cena... If the guy can get super over, he will be a problem for him, like Rocky was. You konw the number one guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 I'm coming up with an uber-angle that is actually very similar to what's being talked about here. It's gonna be hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2005 It had better work Rudo, or you're fired! In WWF's defence, they only knew that Austin wouldn't be at SurSer about a week or so before. Sure, they could have done more once they did know he wouldn't be able to wrestle, but for most of the build up, everyone thought he would be there. I wonder, then, what was the plan if Austin had been fit to go? Would Trips have went over(cancelling TBS's short reign) or would Austin have went over, perhaps to build to a WM2000 match with Rocky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites