The Future of MNM

[Downhome 0]

Call me crazy but I think there is something you can do with this Jillian angle.  It'd be a silly angle but what else could it be?  Once this Animal/Heidenreich stuff is done, MNM need to wrestle a duo where one guy falls in love with Jillian despite the MOLE.  It can lead to a big falling out between Melina and Jillian (Melina being baffled as to why anyone would like Mole Girl), Jillian can join the other team, etc.  Obviously during this Jillian would get the mole removed and thus be unveiled in a new hot persona.  This can lead to a decent tag feud, some 1 on 1 women's matches, even 6 person matches.

 

Thing is, I have no idea who I'd have as the other team...though Spanky seems weird enough to go for a chick with a huge mole.

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No, please for the love of God NO NO NO AND NO!

 

That's just another example of a feud being about the divas, and not the wrestlers.

 

I do think that's what will end up happening though. It will either be that, or Melina or Jillian getting another team to face the curent duo. But again, it will be all about the divas feuding.

[Downhome 0]

There is a female problem (oops, I mean "bitch" problem. Sorry DH!) in WWE, without a doubt. It's hilarious that you're ragging on the one that is in the best role a female can be in though.

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I think it's fine for a valet to be around, but not like this. It was bad enough before, their entire thing was just about Melina and her looks and her entrance. Now though, now it's a million times worse. It's just another woman to take the focus off of the wrestlers. Then to make it to another level, she has fake dog shit on her face. I mean...how can wrestling fans not be outraged at this?

 

Wow, you sound very, very bitter at all females there.

 

I'm just sick of all of these angles where the focus is on the divas, and not the wrestlers. I hated the HHH/Steph feud with Jericho as a pawn, I hate Kane/Lita with Edge as the pawn, and I hate this new angle.

 

I hate it every time they put a woman with a tag team for no good reason as well, like Stacey with Hurricane/Rosey. I didn't see anything wrong with them being alone. Now that she is with them, all that people talk about and pay attention to are her.

 

I'm fine with a few women being around taking part, but these days it's just out of hand. Take the entire Sable/Mero thing for example. It was, in theory, the exact thing I hate today, with her being the attention hog and taking the focus off of him, but it was also different. For one, it was turned into a complete angle, and two, they didn't do that all of the time back then. Same thing with Sunny and the Godwins, and that entire thing. I was cool with that, because it was somewhat new.

 

Just like WWE seems to do with everything, except with good matches, they are over doing this trend.

 

I mean, why in the world did they bring Booker T's wife onto TV in the first place?

 

We need more angles like Hogan/Savage/Elizabeth and Savage/Flair/Elizabeth. Liz was a huge part of both angles, but the hatred that the men had for one another was really expressed and focused on, and in the end (in my eyes), Liz didn't ever totally overshadow the workers. She was a vital part of the feuds, but she was just a PART of the feud, the entire thing was not about just her, or her vs. one of the workers.

[Guest JericholicEdgeHead]

From The Torch

 

-Lots of eye-rolling is going on among not just wrestlers, but even front office and production staffers, at the latest round of TV writers WWE has brought in. They literally don't know even the most basic insider terms about wrestling. There is a growing feeling that Stephanie McMahon has an obsession with WWE moving as far away from its roots as possible.

 

 

 

That's the latest backstage newz...looks like it is coming true with all the shitty angles/segments on both shows.

[Downhome 0]

I'm starting to think that Stephanie McMahon just might be in reality, a 13 year old boy.

[Dangerous A 0]

I'm starting to think that Stephanie McMahon just might be in reality, a 13 year old boy.

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That should also be the desription for Vince, since he has final script approval for what goes on TV and what doesn't.

[Downhome 0]

I guess it just runs in the family.

 

Has Shane ever had any real creative control over the company as a whole?

[Dangerous A 0]

Besides angles that Shane was actually in, I haven't heard that he is involved much with the booking and writing of the shows, but I could be wrong on that.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Has Shane ever had any real creative control over the company as a whole?

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Don't think so.

 

Otherwise, Test would have been WWF Champion once in his career, since I think Shane was high on him.

[Dangerous A 0]

I've heard that creative just isn't Shane's cup of tea.

 

Judging from the writing, it isn't Steph's cup of tea either.

[Downhome 0]

I seem to remember hearing that Shane was really big on the cruiserweights also, but I may be wrong in that.

 

Speaking of Test, where did he end up going to?

[Guest JMA]

I agree with CC. Part of the reason that I like Melina is that she reminds me of Sunny/Tammy Sytch in her prime. Sunny wasn't just hot, she was a great manager and helped the WWF break into the mainstream during the beginnings of "Attitude." She was an actual developed character, with likes/dislikes and a strong motivation.

 

As for Nitro and Mercury, their gimmick reminds me of the Hollywood Blondes (though I wouldn't compare their in-ring and promo skills to Austin and Pillman--two of the very best at both) updated for a post-2000 era.

[Just John 0]

I guess it just runs in the family.

 

Has Shane ever had any real creative control over the company as a whole?

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I don't think anyone really wants Shane in control. If he writes his own angles, the Kane feud should be a clear indication Shane shouldn't be booking.

 

Although, that Kane/Shane feud was at least funny, even though it was for the wrong reasons. This CRAP that the Hollywood rejects pass as wrestling booking is inexcusable at best. I fully believe the Torch excerpt posted earlier, because the last 3 shows seemed to have no direction, little regard for the in-ring product, and some very un-funny sports "entertainment."

[Guest JMA]

Since this thread is about MNM, is anyone else pissed at UPN for blurring out Melina's ass? It seems a little backwards that a lot of the T&A Divas are on Smackdown, yet they can't wear any risque outfits. UPN are even bigger pussies when it comes to blood--that black and white stuff has got to go.

 

When does Smackdown's contract with UPN run-out anyway?

[claydude14 0]

USA used to have RAW in a late replay slot on Thursdays, something like 10-12 I think IIRC; so I wonder if they'd be willing to give at least that to Smackdown! (although 9-11 would be better). I also wonder if we could have a "Saturday Night War" with USA eventually taking Smackdown and throwing it on Saturdays 10-12 to go against UFC and TNA's slots.

[Eclipse 0]

That thing on her face is something out of this world...and it looks DUMB. I swear, that theory better be true, that brass knuckles are hidden there...lol

[Jericholic82 0]

I almost threw my TV out the window during the backstage MNM segment. This is one of those rare moments, when I , as a hardcore WWE fan want to stop watching (and I was able to sit through the Katie Vick angle mind you.)

 

However, I asuume the reason they thought up this whole "mole" (actually it reminds me more of the nurse on South Park with the dead fetus on her head)

gimmick, is that Jillian looks like a million other "divas" they have used in the past. they want to give something of a gimmick to make her stand out, but unfortunately some idot at "creative" decided to look in the offical "12 year olds guide to comedy" book. The same thing just happened with Matt Morgan (though giving a guy whose only real strength was apprantly his mic skills a stuttering gimmick was clearly a terrible idea).

 

As for MNM, I am not that impressed, but then again they haven't been given that much TV time for me to get a real look at them. I did like the 15 min iron man match vs Haas and Holly on Sd a while back, though.

 

I agree on how they apparantly want to push the manager over the team again. as well as how its dumb for them to have photographers following them without revealing that they pay them to do that. They infer it a tad, but dont go anywhere with it. This helps to confuse the general audence, who don't have a clue as to what they are supposed to think of MNM.

 

My prediction is that this instant wrestlecrap moment will only last a short while and be forgotten about (and never emntioned on tv again).

 

Hopefully MNM will regain the tag titles (I have no real problem with them losing to Heidi/Animal just for a nice tribute to Hawk-so as long as they regain the title soon)and be able to prove themselves for once.

[cabbageboy 0]

The angle I mentioned earlier is really about the best thing that I can think of for the current situation. I do certainly agree that females should never overshadow the two wrestlers in a feud though....what's the point?

 

This Jillian thing makes me wonder....will they bring ANYONE up from OVW? Although my friend Chris has a thing for her, I personally didn't see a whole lot out of her. I did see her in a match before the implants, lipo, whatever work she's had done.

[jester 0]

What I don't understand is why WWE doesn't just create an all-Diva, all-mud wrestling all-lesbian angles show. Then they could do all the moronic angles they wanted and nobody would care, because people would only watch for the T&A. And the wrestling shows would have only...well, they'd still have crappy sketches, but at least they'd involve wrestlers.

 

I'll bet Spike would go for something like that.

 

They should play a few rounds of Rumble Roses to see how a female fed should work.

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

Or, I don't know, maybe have the women trained to wrestle and keep the pure T&A on DVDs like Undressed and whatever

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

They should play a few rounds of Rumble Roses to see how a female fed should work.

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So you would like one woman to ride out to the ring on a frog?

[Si82 0]

That mole has to be the most retarded looking thing I have every seen in wrestling. I mean, it looks like see feel asleep on some pizza and woke up without knowing it was there.

[Guest carnage]

Personally I was pissed as hell that UPN decided to blur out Melinas ass throughout the match. I guess thats because i'm heterosexual and like to check out the girls. It seems thats the minority these days.

 

As for them in wrestling I love a good girl vs girl wrestling match. But the emphasis should be on wrestling. They should have some actual skill. I used to watch WOW all the time. They might not have been the best wrestlers on the planet, but they were competent and they had some decent angles.

 

The Jillian mole thing is just stupid. I'm sure it will go away when it fails to go over...which i'm sure it will.

 

As for Melina I think she's great. Also she can also wrestle a little. SHe reminds me of Trish when she first came into WWF. She's raw, but with some time in the ring she coud very well become a good enough wrestler. She seems a lot more open to actually wrestling than Torrie Wilson does.

 

As for MNM...I love this tag team. They very much remind me of Edge and Christian. Despite the rather lame mole gimmic, I still think they can make it work.

[Fro 0]

Melina is actually good worker but there's only so much you can do with a non-wrestler like Torrie Wilson. Put her against a Trish or Victoria and she'd look much better.

 

Although WWE has done well with MNM compared to most of the teams, they've definitely messed up by putting more focus on Melina. In OVW, all three of them were on equal status, neither of them was "the leader", and it worked beautifully. The sum of the three is greater than the individual parts.

 

These guys were Cornette's baby for a year or so and it shows with the various influences the characters have (it's no accident that Melina reminds you a little of Tammy Sytch). They just had a 4-star, 30 minute match with the Thrillseekers in OVW on TV this Saturday.

 

If Spanky is coming back, I'd love to see he and London reteam and feud with MNM for the belts.

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

London and Spanky would rock, especially if they get their old music back and Spanky wears the tassles too

[natey2k4 0]

MNM totally rules.. and I love their one liners.. They play it so well.

 

As for Jillian? The gimmick is crap, but she's great in the ring.. and not to mention hot as hell.

[Guest JMA]

I'm a little disappointed that RD Reynolds doesn't have one of those "definition of WrestleCrap" pictures up with Jillian's mole as the example.

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

I love the comparisons of Melina to Sunny...I've made that connection time and again, and I'm not ashamed to say she's surpassed Trish Stratus in terms of mileage in a managerial role. Trish is a wrestler and a talker indeed, but for herself only because she's got the spotlight's favor over anyone she'd ever manage.

 

Only problem is MNM will go the way of Skip and Zip shortly while Melina is pushed to Trish's role as a wrestler in the solo spotlight...probably ending her ring career sooner than not because of injury from a lesser "diva" put in the ring for no reason. That's sad, because Melina really gives me hope that women in wrestling still can be a voice for the men (i.e. Sherri, Woman, Missy, Sunny, etc.) instead of their pussy pet.

 

Women managers in wrestling used to be so fun.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

How is Heidenreich and Animal winning the tag titles a tribute to Hawk?

 

"Let's do a tribute for Hawk. We'll give the titles to two horrible workers, one of which is 70, and the other is WrestleCrap! That will honor Hawk by showing him the tag titles he held years ago are worthless props, and tag team wrestling is pure shite!"

[BorneAgain 0]

How is Heidenreich and Animal winning the tag titles a tribute to Hawk?

 

"Let's do a tribute for Hawk.  We'll give the titles to two horrible workers, one of which is 70, and the other is WrestleCrap!  That will honor Hawk by showing him the tag titles he held years ago are worthless props, and tag team wrestling is pure shite!"

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To be fair, the titles that Animal and Heidenreich only date back to september 2002.

 

 

 

Its still a fucking weak excuse for a tribute though.

[cameron chaos 0]

She had the surgery to go from this

 

 

to this

 

 

And then they go an put a fucking crackerjack on the side of her face? If I were her and I paid thousands to dramatically have my looks altered in the hope I'd be more appealing and receive a spot on TV, worked my ass off for years for shit money just dreaming and hoping and then they went and pissed on all my efforts by glueing a fucking crackerjack to my face... someone would die. If only Jilian Hall had killed Stephanie in a rage fuelled cat fight when this gimmick was brought to her...