Fartsauce 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 Where is his first game back? I can't wait to hear all the booing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 You know, it just goes to show you that these days you have to take all of these big time stats with a grain of salt....they're all inflated and I can't even respect the statistics as much anymore. It's like, for the most part, everything after 1993 is straight up bullshit and inflated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 I always believed him. This is borderline surreal. Although, he has hawked Viagara for a while, so I guess it does make sense to a degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 Oriowned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted August 2, 2005 I'm surprised he got caught. You have to be pretty stupid to get caught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted August 2, 2005 "I have never intentionally taken a banned substance." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celtic Guardian 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 Where is his first game back? I can't wait to hear all the booing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> August 11, Devil Rays at Orioles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 It's too bad he isn't in the NL, can you imagine all the ECW fans in Philly going to the game and chanting YOU !@#$'ED UP YOU !@#$'ED UP YOU !@#$'ED UP at him? I would die a happy man if I saw that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Aparently, according to the NYTimes, the substance found was stanozolol (brand name Winstrol) which is what Olympic Athlete Ben Johnson got caught with, although its a completely legal steroid. http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d00565a1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Aparently, according to the NYTimes, the substance found was stanozolol (brand name Winstrol) which is what Olympic Athlete Ben Johnson got caught with, although its a completely legal steroid. http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d00565a1 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So we have a drug that is not illegal, and was not banned by Major League Baseball until mid-2002. If this was all Palmeiro took, does it change his career outlook? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 He still shouldn't have taken it and deserves all the heat he gets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Aparently, according to the NYTimes, the substance found was stanozolol (brand name Winstrol) which is what Olympic Athlete Ben Johnson got caught with, although its a completely legal steroid. http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d00565a1 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So we have a drug that is not illegal, and was not banned by Major League Baseball until mid-2002. If this was all Palmeiro took, does it change his career outlook? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Stop making excuses Al. You'll go to bat for anyone just to make sure your favorite game isn't tarnished. Motherfucker had 3 years to stop taking it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 I dont think there will be much boos when he comes back (Os vs D-Rays in Baltimore next week) just because I figure there might be about 5,000 people that actually show up for the game at the rate they are going. I honestly figure this improves the chances of him retiring at the end of the year, although he'll be getting booed instead of cheered on his going away tour. Other than that, I dont know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Am I the only person in the world who doesn't give a shit about any of this steroid stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Here's a story for everyone in a thread: There's this guy, you see. He owns a team. He's kind of a moron, but everybody thinks he's a nice guy even when he's in over his head. He looks in the other direction while Palmiero shoots up and suddently becomes a star player and some seats are filled. The dimwit from before goes on to ramble about how the MLB needs to do more about steroid testing in State of the Union addresses. His former employee goes to Congress to lie about his steroid use. The MLB actually does something by testing him positive. I know that this borderline political rant but since Washington's hammering on the league to clean up is an important issue in this whole thing, I have to point out the irony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Aparently, according to the NYTimes, the substance found was stanozolol (brand name Winstrol) which is what Olympic Athlete Ben Johnson got caught with, although its a completely legal steroid. http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d00565a1 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So we have a drug that is not illegal, and was not banned by Major League Baseball until mid-2002. If this was all Palmeiro took, does it change his career outlook? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Stop making excuses Al. You'll go to bat for anyone just to make sure your favorite game isn't tarnished. Motherfucker had 3 years to stop taking it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know what? You're right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Stanozolol? There's no way that could be an accident. It's only legally available by prescription. You can't find it in any supplements where it could be consumed by mistake. Either Palmeiro lied -- repeatedly -- or someone's trying to make him look bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 They said on Sportscenter today that Palmeiro tested positive for steroids months ago, and that he was going through his "appeal process." So quite possibly he was on roids during the chase for his 3000th hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 The positive test was in May. I am trying hard not to believe that MLB has covered it up in order to not have steroids again be the focus during the bulk of the season, including the whole All Star festivities. It's just getting harder and harder to give a shit. The thing is, I really, really don't care if everyone is using steroids, but if they ban it, then don't use it. Period. It's called cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 But I mean seriously, has anyone ever seen those books of banned substances in the NFL and the MLB. BOOKS. Literally. There is a large book with just a list of stuff that they can't use. I mean, he used it, suspend him, but its not exactly the same as sticking a needle in your ass. They hire trainers and nutritionist, and if they don't stay on top of it, a player could very well take something that they didn't know was on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Yeah but man, if it's a steroid, chances are it is going to be banned. How about not using it, you know, just in case? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 The positive test was in May. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If the positive test was in May, then he perjured himself in front of Congress. Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 He testified in front of Congress in March. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Wow, this year's just one big jumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 I heard this on Cold Pizza from one of their baseball analysts. They said in 1998 or 1999, Palmiero made a plea to Clinton to get his brother out of Cuba as a favor. Clinton made it happen. Then, when Palmiero was in front of Congress in March, he goes and straight lies to them. How about that? You go and ask the government for a favor and it obliges and then you go and lie your ass off to them later when the heat comes down. I'm not saying I totally agree, just thought I'd throw that out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Palmeiro's turning over all information of the positive test to Congress. Hmm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Just think, if Palmeiro tested positive in May, and we just found out about it, how many other roiders are playing today? And if the reports are right that it was Stenozolol, then there's no way Palmeiro didn't know it was banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2005 Palmerio was allowed to play until they all decided he needed to be suspended. One of the medical guys thought that his story(the reason it was in his system) was plausible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2005 Here's a story for everyone in a thread: There's this guy, you see. He owns a team. He's kind of a moron, but everybody thinks he's a nice guy even when he's in over his head. He looks in the other direction while Palmiero shoots up and suddently becomes a star player and some seats are filled. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While alot of the out of controll nature of steriods can be blamed on the owners and MLB's hierarchy, its quite unfair to suggest Bush "looked in the other direction" when his players were juicing. You want to say he didn't do anything, fine. You can't say however if he suspected and chose not to know something that he should know. Also in light of how much crap hands on owners like George Steinbrenner and Marge Schott get/got and how much a Fred Wilpon here in New York gets lambasted because he wanted to get "safe" players on his roster it wouldn't surprise me if an owner, especially one with a famous family name, would be a hands off owner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2005 Am I the only one curious to see the consequences of baseball letting the information be leaked? If I am a player, the next time they come around with a test they get a nice "fuck you" from me, since their confidentiality agreement is apparently garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites