Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 Eh...I still say Nelly is the greatest party rapper. he says even less than Ghostface, yet his singles are beaten to death at any club/party you might go to. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i wasn't talking about 12 year old girl birthday parties... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 Niether am I. Nelly gets 1000% times more spin than Ghostface ever has in the clubs. outside of the obvious answers like Luke or Puffy, Nelly is pretty much party MC as you will never hear anyone riding by bumping Nelly. His music is for the club and the club only. Some of the southern guys like the Ying Yang Twinz or Pastor Troy are getting bigger, but still, nowhere the level that Nelly has reached. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 i am talking real parties. where people with discernable musical tastes play music. i'm not talking about radio station sponsered closing time slow jams with tim mcgraw. i understand where you are coming from, but i think we have a difference of opinion in what party music is. you're talking about being in a club. sure, nelly will get played more. when at a home, or with a dj with a brain who'll mash shit up & want a FUN jam - ghostface will be used far more than nelly. as far as being the BEST at what they are doing, it can't be nelly. he isn't even real rap. its pop rap. its watered down shit for the listeners who can't handle the real thing. he's long since sold his soul to the commerical devil without any form of credibile return. no integrity. no style. nothing. he's never been apart of anything thats listenable...heck i'd give the guy points if he's ever worn anything cool. i can't even do that. he's the antithesis of cool. fred durst is miles davis in comparison to nelly. understand? ill give you an example of ghostface being a party mc. theres this french house group named cassius. ok, in france dance music is americas rap. its unbelievably popular there. who is the only mc they had on their album? ghostface. thats a party album. not forcefed shit that is meant to hype the underage girls at a dance club in nebraska. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 Oh, Okay. Well if that is how you are looking at it, Dj Kool is the greatest party MC of all time. Let me Clear My Throat will forever be used in mixes, played by good DJs, and will get the party moving always. Hell, I almost started dancing thinking about it right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 "Most used" and "best" are not interchangable terms. For fuck's sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 DipSet are more party bangers than Ghostface. Ghostface gets a hell of alot of play here in the greater NYC area. But DipSet kill him in airtime. Nelly is the second biggest party rapper ever. EI, Tip Drill, NaNa NaNa, Flap Your Wings, and Where the Party At? are played almost nightly around here. Number 1 goes to Jay-Z. Big Pimpin, Hey Papi, ect. ect. ect. still get play like its 98 again. As for Kanye, his first album is great if you take away the skits. The second almost so far is great, as long as you take away the skits. The only two skits on the first album I liked are the ones surounding We Don't Care. Speaking of ROC, is it me or is it just a tad annoying how all but Jay-Z and Kanye seem to rap about the same fucking things? And then those two rap about the same things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 at this message board i post at, we have this wonderful thread about people who shouldn't be able to discuss music. cbright fits into that category with his "the chronic is the best rap album of all-time" talk. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I quite frankly think you're an asshole for saying that I should not be able to discuss music because I think The Chronic is the best rap album of all time. No wait, I don't think you're an asshole, I fucking know you're an asshole by your attitude toward me and everyone else who doesn't agree with you, you son of a bitch. Go to hell. I hope you and your fucking mother die for giving birth to such a hateful little bastard. God forbid we have different tastes in music, you fucking self obsessed asshole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 Oh good, chev the Hip Hop Constable is here to remind us that any rapper who doesn't rhyme 83 syllables per bar isn't a true MC. 2pac was excellent in a billion ways besides wordplay from his naturally strong voice, thought provoking subject matter, insane mic presence and charisma, and pop appeal. Why the grouchiness chev? Is it because Japanese businessmen sing "How Do You Want It" karaoke while MF Doom bags groceries to supplement his royalty checks? Is it because he speaks to millions without rapping a backwards backpacker riddle with "secret" metaphors? What's really the issue here chev? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! This guy became my new favorite poster by ripping chev a new asshole. Sorry Fook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 at this message board i post at, we have this wonderful thread about people who shouldn't be able to discuss music. cbright fits into that category with his "the chronic is the best rap album of all-time" talk. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I quite frankly think you're an asshole for saying that I should not be able to discuss music because I think The Chronic is the best rap album of all time. No wait, I don't think you're an asshole, I fucking know you're an asshole by your attitude toward me and everyone else who doesn't agree with, you son of a bitch. Go to hell. I hope you and your fucking mother dies for giving birth to such a hateful little bastard. God forbid we have different tastes in music, you fucking self obsessed asshole. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 at this message board i post at, we have this wonderful thread about people who shouldn't be able to discuss music. cbright fits into that category with his "the chronic is the best rap album of all-time" talk. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I quite frankly think you're an asshole for saying that I should not be able to discuss music because I think The Chronic is the best rap album of all time. No wait, I don't think you're an asshole, I fucking know you're an asshole by your attitude toward me and everyone else who doesn't agree with you, you son of a bitch. Go to hell. I hope you and your fucking mother die for giving birth to such a hateful little bastard. God forbid we have different tastes in music, you fucking self obsessed asshole. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> blah blah blah, Chevy's right, you're a moron, if not for your taste in music, for your hilarious overreaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 Hook, line and sinker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 Aligning yourself with Angora Jellyfish in a music thread is like signing up for the Polish army reserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 I'm starting to think there should be a moratorium on hip hop threads at this board. Or, at the very least, a list should be compiled of people who should not be allowed to post in such threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 Back to the lecture at hand: I've listened to Late Registration many times over the past few days, and have determined that it is at least very, very good, and remarkable for two reasons in particular: 1) Making Adam Levine not only tolerable, but great as used on "Heard Em Say," and 2) Getting a fantastic verse out of Paul Wall, which I didn't think was possible. "Heard Em Say," "Drive Slow," "Gold Digger," "Hey Mama," and "Gone" are the peaks, I think. Real fine album with superior beats as compared to the debut--less repetition, more thump, more experimentation. The beat (or lack thereof) on "Roses" is a bit dizzying. Good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 I'm in love with that weird beat at 2:43 of 'Gold Digger'. His beats are out of this world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 Not that it really matters, but Rolling Stone gave this 5 stars. Its good to see their paint-by-mubers rating scale can color an accurate picture sometimes. And just as a reminder, Kanye is also a really good live mc. Not really pertinent to the new cd but its another thing that sets him apart from alot of other top-name hip hop/rap stars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2005 at this message board i post at, we have this wonderful thread about people who shouldn't be able to discuss music. cbright fits into that category with his "the chronic is the best rap album of all-time" talk. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I quite frankly think you're an asshole for saying that I should not be able to discuss music because I think The Chronic is the best rap album of all time. No wait, I don't think you're an asshole, I fucking know you're an asshole by your attitude toward me and everyone else who doesn't agree with you, you son of a bitch. Go to hell. I hope you and your fucking mother die for giving birth to such a hateful little bastard. God forbid we have different tastes in music, you fucking self obsessed asshole. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> this honestly made me laugh, made my day, ect, so on - so forth. i think edwin & i covered why the chronic isn't really mucf of a classic. its got great songs, but really, you've been programmed by vh1 or whoever else covers these best of 92 shows. i can't really respect the opinion of a man who needs vh1 & mtv what is good/bad. i pity you more than anything. and the best song off of late registration is the crack music, NIGGA. the album is a progressively better listen each time. its crack music, nigga. get it? because crack is addicting? get it? i slay myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2005 I bought Late Registration this weekend and I listened to it about six times in the car on my way back up to college. I have to say, you're right about it getting progressively better every time you listen to it. My favorite songs the first few listens were the singles (both "Diamonds" versions and "Gold Digger"), but now, I adore "Drive Slow" and "Roses". There's so much good in this album that it's hard to really quantify it all. Great effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2005 On "Roses" I just look forward to Kanye finishing his pretty much garbage rap in that song for the great production and singing. I love Gone for Consequence's incredible verse, and Really Doe's hook on We Major. The whole album is incredibly strong though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Forgive me if this is obvious and I'm totally missing the connection, but is the beat for Drive Slow a Tupac beat? I can't find any of my old Tupac CDs to check myself, but it definitely reminds me of or is one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're thinking of the horn or flute sample, right? Yeah, it's definitely used in a 2Pac song. I'm racking my brain right now, but I don't have any of his records handy to listen through. I think it's off Me Against the World, but I'm not sure. I know like 5 seconds after I post this I'll think of it..... Ok, after racking my brain I've ID'd the song, it's "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" off MATW. The sample comes from a Hank Crawford song called "Wildflower" which with any luck I can find and post..... ...... But the reason I even came to this thread in the first place (and ironic) is because the basic part of the Drive Slow beat, the steady background, I KNOW I've heard that verbatim in songs before. In fact, I just deleted a bunch of tracks off my harddrive a couple weeks ago and now I'm kicking myself because that was one of the songs. I think it was Das EFX or Freddie Foxxx, but I'm not sure. I think the chorus went "I can't take the pressure on my brain and I'm buggin". Anyone help me out? I'm trying to trace it back to the original track it's sampled off.... EDIT* nevermind, it's all sampled off the same song, but it's still pissing me off not knowing who else flipped it.... EDIT* I think the song is called "Project Mice" by Freddie Foxxx, but now I can only find the remix on P2P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Oh yeah, I forgot about Kanye. Well, I thought College Dropout was pretty overrated, so I didn't come into this one with high expectations, and the usual Kanye on the boards > Kanye on the mic attitude. Well, I've been pleasantly surprised here, I like the beats and samples a lot more than those on College Dropout (love the Motor Booty Affair sample on Crack Music, shows Kanye is showing some thought and not just digging the usual P-Funk crates), Kanye is much better on the mic here, and the whole thing just flows better and feels more complete. I've only given it one spin, and Kanye is NOT the second coming of anything, and reading some of Kanye's reviews and fans still makes me want to choke people, but anyway.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17BICPY...GN24BN691WYPXPT the song Drive Slow and Shorty Wanna Be a Thug sampled off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 2. Fiddy talks smack about Dre and Kanye. 50 Cent is pointing the finger at super-producer Dr. Dre and Aftermath for The Game's rebellion against G-Unit. In a recent interview with King Magazine, the Queens rapper revealed that Dre could have prevented the escalating feud between G-Unit and Chuck Taylor. "I think a big portion of the problem comes from Dr. Dre and Aftermath. I don't think it was handled properly," 50 told King in regards to the feud that lead to a shooting in front of Hot 97 last March. "If Game felt saying something about me was saying something about Dre, he wouldn't have said what he said. They made him have that comfort." Meanwhile, in a recent interview with MTV, 50 takes credit for Kanye's success by saying "I feel like Kanye West is successful because of me. After 50 Cent, [hip-hop fans] was looking for something non-confrontational, and they went after first thing that came along. That was Kanye West, and his record took off." Someone's wanting attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 Someone's wanting attention. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In rap? Unheard of! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 Source on that article? 'Cause they managed to get Game's real name wrong so I'm kinda skeptical. Though 50 going after Kanye because he produced a track on The Documentary and because Game is on Late Registration is totally possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2005 http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/7522 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 You can listen to a whole crapload of the album here for free. http://www.mp3.com/kanye-west/artists/321243/summary.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2005 Yep, that was the song Roy. Thanks for reminding me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2005 Kanye West "Touch The Sky" Tour Dates -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday 11-Oct Miami, FL Convocation Center: Un. Of Miami Wed 12-Oct Tampa, FL USF: Sundome Thursday 13-Oct Gainsville, FL O'Connell Center: Un. Of FL. Saturday 15-Oct Greenville, SC Bi-Lo Center Sunday 16-Oct Knoxville, TN Thompson-Boling Arena Tuesday 18-Oct Columbia, MO Mizzou Arena Wednesday 19-Oct Champaign, IL Assembly Hall Friday 21-Oct Buffalo, NY Alumni Arena Saturday 22-Oct Detroit, MI Fox Theatre Sunday 23-Oct Detroit, MI/Columbus, OH Fox Theatre/Schottenstein Center Wednesday 26-Oct Kingston, RI Ryan Center: UN. Of Rhode Island Friday 28-Oct University Park, PA Bryce Jordan Center: Penn State Saturday 29-Oct Cleveland, OH CSU Convocation Center Sunday 30-Oct Fairfax, VA Patriot Center Monday 31-Oct Amherst, MA Mullins Center Wednesday 2-Nov New York, NY MSG Theatre Thursday 3-Nov New York, NY MSG Theatre Friday 4-Nov Baltimore, MD 1st Mariner Arena Saturday 5-Nov Hampton, VA Coliseum sun 6-Nov Philadelphia, PA Liacouris Center Tuesday 8-Nov Pittsburgh, PA AJ Palumbo Center/Peterson Evnt Wednesday 9-Nov Toronto, ON ACC Friday 11-Nov E. Lansing, MI Breslin Center: MI State Un. Saturday 12-Nov Chicago,IL Rosemont Theater Sunday 13-Nov Dekalb, IL/ Minneapolis, MN NIU Convocation Center/Excel Center Monday 14-Nov Northwestern University Welsh Ryan Arena Tuesday 15-Nov Carbondale, IL SIU Arena Thursday h 17-Nov Atlanta, Ga Gwinnett Center Friday 18-Nov Greensboro, NC Coliseum Saturday 19-Nov Statesboro, GA GSU Sunday 20-Nov Birmingham, AL BJCC Tuesday 22-Nov Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center Wednesday 23-Nov Memphis, TN Mid-South Coliseum Friday 25-Nov Houston, TX Reliant Arena Saturday 26-Nov Dallas, TX Nokia Live Sunday 27-Nov Kansas City, MO Kemper Arena Tuesday 29-Nov Denver, CO Magness--Lecture Hall Thursday 1-Dec Phoenix, AZ Dodge Theatre Friday 2-Dec San Diego, CA Cox Arena/RIMAC Saturday 3-Dec Los Angeles, CA Universal Amph Sunday 4-Dec Los Angeles, CA Universal Amph Tuesday 6-Dec San Francisco Bill Graham Civic Auditorium Wednesday 7-Dec Las Vegas, NV M. Bay--Aladdin Friday 9-Dec Portland, OR Memorial Coliseum Saturday 10-Dec Seattle, WA Everett Event Center Sunday 11-Dec Vancouver GM Place I think Kanye might be the first BIG rapper in ten years to visit my hometown. I'm going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
