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It's unbelievable that, in spite of all the firings, WWE have kept Michael Cole on TV for so long. Given that he's commentated since 1998 and is still terrible, why are WWE keeping him as commentator?

 

WWE always presents itself as the big leagues, and it seems an anomaly that the prominent position of SD commentator would be filled by Michael Cole. There must be hundreds of people in the wrestling world (and many in WWE alone) that could do his job better than him.

 

SD's move to Friday nights would be as good a time as any to replace Michael Cole and provide some much needed freshness to the SD commentary booth. I realise JR & King are equally stale on Raw, but at least JR used to be good and King was funny once upon a time; Cole has always sucked. However, I understand that Cole is great at WWE production (rumoured he put that WWF history Desire video together), so why not restrict him to that?

 

Can anyone else explain to me why Cole is still employed? Anyone want to predict how long is it going to be before WWE finally gives up on Cole and takes him off the commentary team?

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I totally agree that Michael Cole needs to go, but I don't see it happening. I think that the commentary teams in the WWE today are absolutley terrible. I can stand Tazz and I think the Coach is a breath of fresh air on Raw, but JR acts like its 1998 and his freaking out at everything act has grown stale. Meanwhile, Jerry Lawler doesn't even try to a heel anymore (although he'll agree with Coach on various things, but nothing more than that) and just acts like he's creaming his pants when a diva comes out. His 'puppies' act needs to be eliminated as well.

 

I just believe that the commentary teams aren't trying to put anyone over on commentary, bury workers by saying that they have no chance at beating certain wrestlers, etc. and it hurts the product because fans have no reason to sit through a match. I miss the days when WWE commentators tried to add a plotline to every match so that you knew it meant something, but hell we don't even get the old "a win will move them up the rankings" argument anymore.

 

With all of this said, though, Cole isn't going anywhere. Who would they replace him with? I wouldn't mind Vince going back on commentary, but that's not possible with him still being a storyline character, so who knows.

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Guest FromBeyondTheGrave

Michael Cole reminds me of Brick from Anchorman. When he talks all I hear is LOUD NOISES.

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Guest thebooker

They are all bad, only one who is any good is the coach, It's just part of the whole

booking by numbers system that exists at the moment. the staleness of the product

is just reflected in the commentary. . On a side note how come the king was creaming

himself over shawn this week, wasn't it only a couple of weeks ago he kicked him. still if

jr can forgive kane setting fire to him then why worry about anything as small as a kick to the face.

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Who would they replace him with?

 

Josh F'n Matthews. In fact, even if Cole doesn't go anywhere anytime soon, and I don't think he will, it wouldn't hurt to try out something like the three man format on SD. Cole doing PBP, Tazz throwing in his jokes, non sequiturs and the like, and Josh providing analysis.

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Unfortuantely, Matthews wouldn't last 2 minutes on Smackdown. He'd mention how Spanky is returning after a stint in ROH and be canned immediately . . . assuming Spanky ever makes it to the main show.

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Ladies and gentlemen I give you....Steve Romero.

 

The weird thing about Cole is that he's the last guy in a long line of lame pretty boy type announcers and for some inexplicable reason he has hung on. I mean he's not any better than Craig DeGeorge, Sean Mooney, Todd Pettengill, etc.

 

A guy I knew in college said this about Cole: "They finally fired Todd Pettengill and then replace him with a guy that sucks just as bad."

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I once thought Todd Pettengill and Michael Cole were the same person.

 

Personally, I don't think Cole is a bad PBP guy, but if he had to be replaced then I'd like to see Josh Matthews in the booth. I've never really gotten to see many Velocities, but from the few I have, Josh does a pretty good job.

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I'm curious how someone like Fit Finley would do as a heel color commentator. As far as play-by-play goes, I've always been under the impression that anyone can do it. It's just the people that are considered "good" are because they have good interaction with whomever is on color.

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Has there ever been a reason provided for why Kevin Dunn likes "young, pretty boy announcers"? Is he gay or something? Seriously, does anyone know?

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Has there ever been a reason provided for why Kevin Dunn likes "young, pretty boy announcers"? Is he gay or something? Seriously, does anyone know?

I'm willing to bet Dunn isn't gay based purely on comments he made in the very first episode of Tough Enough.

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Has there ever been a reason provided for why Kevin Dunn likes "young, pretty boy announcers"? Is he gay or something? Seriously, does anyone know?

I'm willing to bet Dunn isn't gay based purely on comments he made in the very first episode of Tough Enough.

Maybe he's faking it?

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I don't think he's that bad. WWE have done much worse in the past (Todd Pettingale).

 

That out of the way, I think that the announce team on Raw have improved as of late.

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Yeah, WWE's commentating team is bad, but they don't actively lower the quality of the show (unlike ROH's) because the show is already so bad.

 

Commentators not named CM Punk or Dave Prazak in ROH are absolutely unbearable. I can tolerate most or all of WWE's team, even Todd Grisham.

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I don't have a real problem with Cole. I used to hate him in 1998, but he's gotten better for the most part. The problem with the televised shows is that Vince dictates to the announcers what they are supposed to say. This is a big problem on RAW too.

 

Try watching the commentaries by Cole & Tazz on Benoit's & Eddy's DVDs. It is 100x than anything that the company has done on their A-shows since 1998.

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I don't have a real problem with Cole.  I used to hate him in 1998, but he's gotten better for the most part.  The problem with the televised shows is that Vince dictates to the announcers what they are supposed to say.  This is a big problem on RAW too. 

 

Try watching the commentaries by Cole & Tazz on Benoit's & Eddy's DVDs.  It is 100x than anything that the company has done on their A-shows since 1998.

 

I really enjoyed Cole & Tazz commentating on Benoit's Super J-Cup run. They seemed really enthusiastic. That DVD was probably my favourite work from Michael Cole.

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Has there ever been a reason provided for why Kevin Dunn likes "young, pretty boy announcers"? Is he gay or something? Seriously, does anyone know?

They want good looking people as announcers. Knowledge of the product is secondary to good looks. Knowledge of the product is even a detriment.

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what strikes me is that WWE commentators are less about the in ring and more about telling the viewers what they're supposed to think about the characters, both in and out of the ring.

 

Instead of talking about moves and whatnot, they're just calling people bullies or blue chippers.

 

Instead of talking about the current event, they're obsessed with the Diva search.

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what strikes me is that WWE commentators are less about the in ring and more about telling the viewers what they're supposed to think about the characters, both in and out of the ring.

 

Instead of talking about moves and whatnot, they're just calling people bullies or blue chippers.

 

Instead of talking about the current event, they're obsessed with the Diva search.

That is the most annoying thing about WWE commentators. They constantly feel the need to review the points of a story line while the match is going on in the ring instead of simply calling the action. That, or spewing a bunch of cliches and wrestler nicknames.

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Kevin Kelly said that Michael Cole is not the kind of pretty boy he gives off on tv. He said that Cole can drink brews with the best of them and complains about everything, including the fans.

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what strikes me is that WWE commentators are less about the in ring and more about telling the viewers what they're supposed to think about the characters, both in and out of the ring.

 

Instead of talking about moves and whatnot, they're just calling people bullies or blue chippers.

 

Instead of talking about the current event, they're obsessed with the Diva search.

That is the most annoying thing about WWE commentators. They constantly feel the need to review the points of a story line while the match is going on in the ring instead of simply calling the action. That, or spewing a bunch of cliches and wrestler nicknames.

That's the main reason why I've always felt that Monsoon and Ventura were the greatest commentary team in the WWF. Although, in the thread I created in General a few months ago, people made the argument that Monsoon/Heenan had better chemistry/banter, Ventura/Monsoon (and, later, Ventura/Ross in WCW) were two of the best-ever commentary teams in terms of calling the action, and actually attempting to put the talent competing in the match over, rather than going off on a tangent about whatever the "Flavor of the Month" was.

 

EDIT - Did I say a few months ago? I meant a year...

Edited by Mr. S£im Citrus

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