UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Not sure if this was already posted, if so than disregard it. Fans, last year WW"e" contacted The Honky Tonk Man and about using his name and likeness for video games and action figures. HTM directed his representative to negotiate terms with the WW"e" contact agent. Thereafter the WW"e" provided a proposed "contract" that had absolutely nothing to do with video games or action figures. Instead it was a bait and switch for what the WW"e" termed the "nostalgia" program. A short time later that program evolved into what the WW"e" now calls the "Legends" program. The "contract" was nothing more than a copy of the present day WW"e" pro forma talent contract. It read like slavery and no one in his right mind would sign it. Sadly, there are those who have. HTM's representative then contacted the WW"e" agent and asked what happened to video games and action figures, and what all the other BS was doing in there. The reply consisted of ridiculous non-answers. A few days later HTM had the "contract" rewritten to reflect its original purposes and sent to the WW"e." Thereafter, WW"e" vice president Ed Cohen, who never talked to HTM or his representative regarding any of the matters at hand, sent a reply rejecting HTM's terms. Cohen stated on behalf of the WW"e" that it was "unfortunate HTM would not be participating" in the "nostalgia" program. Unfortunate? Not for HTM. In what was par for the WW"e" pattern of doing business, Cohen's letter said not one word about video games or action figures. "Nostalgia" program? At no time was that ever discussed. The WWE "contract" was so poorly drafted that a first year law student would have been expelled had he or she produced such garbage. Fans, the standard WW"e" talent contract is juvenile at best. Vince the non-licensed legal genius constantly amended it as hard knocks came along over the years. One would think a guy with all that cash in his pockets could have afforded some rudimentary legal advice, but that was obviously not the case. Had HTM signed he would never be able to use his name "Honky Tonk Man" again. The WWE would have owned damn near his very existence for the rest of his life, and all at the price of a few bags of peanuts. To sum up the sorry tale, when HTM had his representative properly redraft the proposed contract in response to the blatant treachery of the WW"e," as a practical matter he told the WW"e" to get fucked. HTM knew the WW"e" would never go for it, but he decided that since they wanted to waste his time he would waste some of theirs in turn. In hindsight HTM knew a better use of his time would have been to ignore the WW"e." However, HTM was curious to see how the WW"e" would respond to the exposure of their bullshit. After HTM learned more about the "Legends" nonsense, it took only a few brain cells to understand the motives of the former wrestlers who signed. It is hard to believe so many have nothing going for themselves. And Vince, true to form, included the usual non-competition clauses. From time to time WW"e" contacts HTM regarding one-time appearances. When HTM indicates that the Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time isn't going to job to anyone, especially a pipsqueak like Randy Orton, the conversations end. http://www.thehonkytonkman.com/commentary/...=fullnews&id=23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Fuck him. I sure as hell don't want him on my TV, unless it's doing non-stop jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 From time to time WW"e" contacts HTM regarding one-time appearances. When HTM indicates that the Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time isn't going to job to Randy Orton, the conversations end I'm starting to like fat elvis more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 oh shaddup already! Jessum crow, the guy actually claimed to have invented the punk rock look in his shoot interview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Well that will be a fun DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 hilariously htm is even emulating the bloated & psychotic phase of elvis in the twilight of his life. awesome. thats dedication. that said, i respect him for standing up to vince's exploitation of the poor & in-debt ex-wwf stars whose drug addictions from years on the road force them to whore themselves off for a few extra bucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 i'd shit twice & die if i could chill & play guitars with honky tonk in my backyard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 I don't like HTM, but I did like the stab at RKO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 I could give two shits about ever seeing HTM again on TV because he is irrelevant (just like most of the guys you'll see tonight coming back for "homecoming" except the ones with drawing power) but I do respect him for not bending over and taking one in the ass from Vince, especially since he's able to smell the bad deal Vince and Co. are giving the so-called "legends". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 i don't care what anyone says, the honky tonk man gimmick is great. one of the best. they don't come like that anymore. to see him come out one last time to smash a guitar over someone's head would be splendid. i'm not talking about those pussy jeff jarrett guitars, i'm talking the one's that crack vertebraes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Why do all of the crazy legends refer to themselves in third person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Well how long before we get a burial DVD for HTM like we did with Warrior? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Well how long before we get a burial DVD for HTM like we did with Warrior? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2007, since they have Jake Roberts up next as their big nostalgia related DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 Well how long before we get a burial DVD for HTM like we did with Warrior? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2007, since they have Jake Roberts up next as their big nostalgia related DVD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's not counting the Bret Hart DVD, is it? Oh, and Honky Tonk...eh, except for the theme he's never done anything for me. EDIT: And getting killed by Kane in the 01 Rumble. That was classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 I'll give HTM credit. He took a gimmick that by no means should have ever gotten over and did wonders with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Well how long before we get a burial DVD for HTM like we did with Warrior? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who the hell would buy it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I'll give HTM credit. He took a gimmick that by no means should have ever gotten over and did wonders with it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We call that an IRS-ism. Er, I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 HTM is a psycho for not wanting to shill himself out? I don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 HTM is a psycho for not wanting to shill himself out? I don't get it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah, he was psycho before that. This might just be an indication he still has some brain cells left we didn't know about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 It clearly comes down to the fact that if he signed it, he'd be making money, but Vince would be making more off him. He can probably still make a good bit of that same money on his own without Vince profiting off of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jkt Report post Posted October 4, 2005 HTM may not have a lot of sense but it appears he has some. Why any of these "legends" would ever sign over the rights to their gimmick is beyond me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 5, 2005 HTM is a psycho for not wanting to shill himself out? I don't get it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because when you want to make a stand for integrity --- you THINK pro wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 5, 2005 HTM may not have a lot of sense but it appears he has some. Why any of these "legends" would ever sign over the rights to their gimmick is beyond me? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For some of them, they won't be using those gimmicks again anyways, so it's an easy check to pick up and I'm sure they like getting comped hotel rooms and such for whenever they drag them out for events and some just want their "legacy" to be "honored correctly". If the legends were smart, they would have already owned the rights. However a legends list that includes Koko B. Ware and Jim Duggan implies that they aren't exactly mensa members to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kardo 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 oh shaddup already! Jessum crow, the guy actually claimed to have invented the punk rock look in his shoot interview. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which shoot is this? I have the RF one and he says he was doing the Punk Rock look in the early 80's as a gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest clockworkraven Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Why do all of the crazy legends refer to themselves in third person? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Says on the site that the article was posted by "Krazy Loop". Must be one of his staff, because the bottom of the article (not quoted here) says "About a month ago HTM asked his staff write a Commentary in response to the many questions he gets from his fans as to why he isn't in the Legends program." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites