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Slayer: The best part is there's nothing negative in the sentence itself... so they have to think about if they've been insulted

CzechRepublic: and you know with White Sox fans, everything must be an insult!

CzechRepublic: WHY DON'T YOU RESPECT US

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Serious question time now

 

What can be said about the postseason (and baseball in general) when, this postseason, we've seen records broken for the longest WS game ever and longest postseason game ever?

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Hey, at least if the White Sox close this out tonight we can at long last have a champion who actually WON THE DIVISION.

 

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the concept of "White Sox winning the series." It's just too weird.

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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the dry spells for the Cubs and the Red Sox were always given the most attention, so it doesn't seem so unreal that the White Sox are going to be winning their first title in nearly nine decades. It sinks in a bit when they run off the stats, but to me, when I thought of hard-luck teams, the Cubs and Red Sox always came to mind. Not so much for the White Sox.

 

I'll say this. My beef isn't necessarily with the White Sox. The laughing stock that is their announcing duo and their passive fans that exist outside the minute, true fanbase, are what bother me. Suddenly we have all these people coming out of the woodwork, "Hey, I love the White Stox or whatever!" Obviously a winning team and championship is going to make a lot of small-minded people jump on board, but to see so many people (not really just here) hop on the bandwagon because the Sox are on fire, is annoying.

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I think this team has lasting power; reason being is their pitching. They remind me a lot of the old Yankees (someone wrote an article on this), with their defense, timely hitting, great pitching, and great bullpen. Crede is like Scott Brosius, Podsednik is Knoblauch, Uribe/Iguchi take care for Jeter, Konerko is Tino, Dye is O'Neill, Rowand isn't much like Bernie, but his defense more than makes up for it, and Everett is like Chili Davis or Strawberry. Then you have Buerhle, Garland, Garcia, and Contreras who are Pettite, Cone, Clemens, and El Duque. The only difference is Rivera, but Guillen's mixing and matching in the postseason is been fine.

 

Well, they'll have more lasting power if they keep Konerko.

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Chicago hasn't won yet. I mean, it IS Chicago baseball.

Someone has to eventually blow a 3-0 lead in the World Series.

Why not Chicago? You gotta admit, it would be fitting.

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You do realize that happens in every sport. People jump on the bandwagon. Were there really that many hardcore Patriot fans before they were good outside of the Boston area? Not really. Did anyone really give a damn about the Angels before they won a World Series Title? People always jump on bandwagons. If the Astros would be sweeping the Sox, there would be millions of people marking that they are die-hard Astro fans. It's the way a lot of casual sport fans operate. Get over it. Stop being a Garner and blaming everyone else.

 

Nearly all sports announcers suck ass. See Tim McCarver and See all Fox Football announcers.

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It does piss me off a little, seeing posters who've never posted anything about the White Sox in sports till the White Sox were actually in the World Series. I'm not saying it's everbody, but you know who you are.

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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the dry spells for the Cubs and the Red Sox were always given the most attention, so it doesn't seem so unreal that the White Sox are going to be winning their first title in nearly nine decades.  It sinks in a bit when they run off the stats, but to me, when I thought of hard-luck teams, the Cubs and Red Sox always came to mind.  Not so much for the White Sox.

 

I'll say this.  My beef isn't necessarily with the White Sox.  The laughing stock that is their announcing duo and their passive fans that exist outside the minute, true fanbase, are what bother me.  Suddenly we have all these people coming out of the woodwork, "Hey, I love the White Stox or whatever!"  Obviously a winning team and championship is going to make a lot of small-minded people jump on board, but to see so many people (not really just here) hop on the bandwagon because the Sox are on fire, is annoying.

 

 

I always thought the White Sox "curse" was ignored because they brought it on themselves. Almost like they deserved it.

 

I never had a problem with Harrelson. Until I looked and found out he never even played for the White Sox. I'm sorry, but to become that big a homer for a team you have no history, comes across has phoney and insincere.

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You know, I decided to let things roll off my back. The thing that annoys me, Czech in particular, is that I've talked to this guy on AIM before. I've talked to him about the White Sox... and this was in 2003-2004, when the Sox was sucking. So I don't get why he is questioning my loyalty to the team... but hey whatever makes him feel better.

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It does piss me off a little, seeing posters who've never posted anything about the White Sox in sports till the White Sox were actually in the World Series. I'm not saying it's everbody, but you know who you are.

 

I'm not a bandwagon fan. I'm just happy to win $200.

 

GO GAMBLING!

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It does piss me off a little, seeing posters who've never posted anything about the White Sox in sports till the White Sox were actually in the World Series. I'm not saying it's everbody, but you know who you are.

 

I'm not a bandwagon fan. I'm just happy to win $200.

 

GO GAMBLING!

 

He wasn't talking about you. He was talking about Matt Young.

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I think this team has lasting power; reason being is their pitching. They remind me a lot of the old Yankees (someone wrote an article on this), with their defense, timely hitting, great pitching, and great bullpen. Crede is like Scott Brosius, Podsednik is Knoblauch, Uribe/Iguchi take care for Jeter, Konerko is Tino, Dye is O'Neill, Rowand isn't much like Bernie, but his defense more than makes up for it, and Everett is like Chili Davis or Strawberry. Then you have Buerhle, Garland, Garcia, and Contreras who are Pettite, Cone, Clemens, and El Duque. The only difference is Rivera, but Guillen's mixing and matching in the postseason is been fine.

 

Well, they'll have more lasting power if they keep Konerko.

I'm suspicious if the White Sox can keep it up, for two reasons. One, their pythagorean record was 91-71, eight games below their real record. The Indians actually had a better run differential, and they will pose a significant challenge. Second and more importantly, quite a few Sox pitchers enjoyed career years. Jose Contreras, Mark Buehrle, Jon Garland, Neal Cotts, Dustin Hermanson, Cliff Politte and Bobby Jenks all enjoyed the best years of their careers. How much of that is real, how much is a fluke, and how much is defense? The Sox remind me a great deal of the 1939-40 Cincinnati Reds, who won two NL pennants and a World Championship almost entirely on pitching and defense. It worked for a time, but Bill McKechnie remained obsessive far beyond its usefulness.

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Did McCarver really just say that the White Sox could beat any team from any era? I mean, I love the team and all despite my constant pessimism, but is McCarver's brain connected to his mouth in any way?

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Then you have Buerhle, Garland, Garcia, and Contreras who are Pettite, Cone, Clemens, and El Duque. The only difference is Rivera, but Guillen's mixing and matching in the postseason is been fine.

Wouldn't you say El Duque is El Duque?

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I think this team has lasting power; reason being is their pitching. They remind me a lot of the old Yankees (someone wrote an article on this), with their defense, timely hitting, great pitching, and great bullpen. Crede is like Scott Brosius, Podsednik is Knoblauch, Uribe/Iguchi take care for Jeter, Konerko is Tino, Dye is O'Neill, Rowand isn't much like Bernie, but his defense more than makes up for it, and Everett is like Chili Davis or Strawberry. Then you have Buerhle, Garland, Garcia, and Contreras who are Pettite, Cone, Clemens, and El Duque. The only difference is Rivera, but Guillen's mixing and matching in the postseason is been fine.

 

Well, they'll have more lasting power if they keep Konerko.

I'm suspicious if the White Sox can keep it up, for two reasons. One, their pythagorean record was 91-71, eight games below their real record. The Indians actually had a better run differential, and they will pose a significant challenge. Second and more importantly, quite a few Sox pitchers enjoyed career years. Jose Contreras, Mark Buehrle, Jon Garland, Neal Cotts, Dustin Hermanson, Cliff Politte and Bobby Jenks all enjoyed the best years of their careers. How much of that is real, how much is a fluke, and how much is defense? The Sox remind me a great deal of the 1939-40 Cincinnati Reds, who won two NL pennants and a World Championship almost entirely on pitching and defense. It worked for a time, but Bill McKechnie remained obsessive far beyond its usefulness.

 

Weren't the Yanks a lot better than their pythagorean during their championship years from 96 to 00?

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