Spoilers For This Saturday's Impact

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From pwinsider:

 

Pre-Taping Notes: The Ultimate X rematch from the Bound for Glory PPV will open the Primetime Special. TNA has the X hanging from the ropes with several small chains to prevent a repeat of Sunday's PPV malfunction. ... TNA execs Dixie Carter & Frank Dickerson are sitting ringside, as is Jamie D who won the TNA Gutcheck Challenge earlier in the year. Carter spent time talking to ringside fans before the taping. ... Sean Waltman is backstage. ... Before the taping, Jeremy Borash asked how many first timers were in the house and a huge percentage raised their hands..

 

*Before they went on the air, the Spike TV general manager was introduced as he was sitting with TNA execs at ringside.

 

*Mike Tenay and Don West taped several segments previewing the primetime Impact including one featuring Jeff Jarrett announcing he would challenge Rhino for the NWA title.

 

*In an Ultimate X match, Petey Williams defeated Matt Bentley and Chris Sabin. Really fun match. Some insane spots and a catfight spot with Traci Brooks and Scott D'Amore. It's Williams vs AJ Styles for the X-Division title at the Genesis PPV.

 

*Backstage, Team Canada attacked 3 Live Kru.

 

In matches taped for this Saturday's Impact:

 

*Abyss pinned Lance Hoyt with the Black Hole Slam in an entertaining bout. The lights went out and when they returned, Sabu was in the ring with his arm wrapped in barbed wire challenging Abyss, who was holding his bag of thumbtacks. Jim Mitchell pulled Abyss from the ring.

 

*The Naturals beat Beat Lex Lovett & Buck Quartermaine. In a scary moment, Chase Stevens landed on the top of his head while flipping over after failing a famouser. He seemed out of it but kicked out. He was woozy enough that they did an improv finish after The Naturals didn't set up the Natural Disaster properly. Stevens walked out under his own power.

 

*TNA X-Division champion AJ Styles & Sonjay Dutt defeated Roderick Strong & Alex Shelley. Monster pop for Styles. Scott D'Amore and Petey Williams came to the commentator table screaming about Williams winning the PPV Ultimate X fairly and being forced into a rematch on the special. Strong hit some insane backbreaker innovations on Dutt. Huge pop for the hot tag to Styles. Styles Clash on Strong for the pin. Another really good match. Strong "That was awesome" after all four had left the Arena.

 

*NWA Tag Team champs America's Most Wanted defeated 3 Live Kru's Ron Killings & BG James. Crowd chanted "P****ycat" at Chris Harris. Killings did a flip dive onto AMW on the floor. Konnan thwarted Gail Kim's interference. Scott D'Amore tried to hit James with a hockey stick. Kip James stopped him and gave the stick to James. James was about to use it but Storm grabbed it. Harris hit a superkick to pin James.

 

*Team 3-D arrived in a truck and entered the building with Brother Ray saying, "Let's take care of business." to Devon.

 

*Team 3-D interview in the ring. Brother Ray cut a promo saying AMW was their new favorite team because they did what no one in 4 years of ECW and 6 years of WWE - put them on the shelf. He said their mistake was leaving them for dead without killing them.

 

Ray said that they know every person who was at their "funeral" and cut a promo on them. It was a hell of a promo. They announced Rhino & 3-D vs. AMW & Jeff Jarett at Genesis. Devon challenged Team Canada to face them on the primetime special.

 

Scott D'Amore. Bobby Rude & Eric Young came out. They distracted 3-D and jumped them. 3 Live Kru made the save for a big brawl as they go off the air. They hit 3-D on Young. They grabbed D'Amore but Jarrett and AMW hit the ring. Rhino made the save. Jarrett and his cronies powdered out after a short brawl.

 

Another good segment. This Saturday's Impact is a really fun show.

 

TNA Impact 2 hour special for 11/3:

 

*Lance Hoyt & Jeff Hardy & Sabu beat The Diamonds in The Rough. Crowd is big time into Sabu. Hardy hit the swanton on Young after a quick flurry. Abyss hit the ring and nailed Sabu with the Black Hole Slam. Hoyt and Hardy clotheslined him out of the ring. OK opener.

 

*Monty Brown pinned Brian Gamble with two Pounces. Gamble either did an awesome job selling or was legit out on his feet after the first as Brown drilled him hard. Gamble was carried out as Jeremy Borash quipped, "Gamble was 26."

 

*Christopher Daniels & Alex Shelley & Samoa Joe lost to Austin Aries & Sonjay Dutt & X-Division champ AJ Styles - Great stuff here. They teased dissension with Joe and Daniels blind tagging each other while on the offensive. The faces had triple submissions on the heels at one point which got a TNA chant. Daniels accidentally struck Joe. Joe returned the favor. Styles got the Clash on Shelley for the win. This was bell to bell great stuff all around. You'll want to go out of your way to see this.

 

*At some point, they will splice the Ultimate X match into the special

 

*Team 3-D defeated Team Canada's Eric Young & Bobby Rude - The fans sang the Star Spangled Banner to taunt Team Canada. Young did a great job as the runt of the team with his personality coming through. 3D went for the wazzup headbutt but Rude shoved Devon off the ropes. They got a lot of heat on Devon as Ray was screaming for him to fight them off. Devon came back with a double clothesline. He made the hot tag. They called for 3D on Young. A1 went to use the hockey stick but 3 Live Kru stopped him. They hit the 3D for the win. Good bout. The fans saluted 3D with an ECW chant as they left the ring.

 

*NWA champion Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett - Rhino went for the gore after a press slam but Jarrett powdered out. They brawled through the crowd. Rhino slammed Jarrett's head into a chair held by a fan. Tommy Dreamer would be proud. Rhino slammed him into the announcing table then pulled a table from under the ring. An ECW chant started but was drowned out by a TNA chant. Rhino went for a piledriver off the ropes but Gail Kim came down. Rhino took a nasty bump to the floor. Jarrett took control. He tried to wear down Rhino with a bear hug. Crowd chanted loudly for Rhino who made his comeback with a Samoan Drop. He nailed Jarrett with a shoulder tackle but Jeff took him down as he charged towards the corner. Jarrett cinched in the figure four. Rhino reversed. Gail Kim went for a flying legdrop but missed. Rhino pressed her for a slam but Jarrett rolled him up for a two count. Jarrett tried for another pin but the ref caught him putting his feet on the ropes. Rhino hit a sit out powerbomb for a two. He missed the gore. The ref went down to a accidental clothesline. Jarett missed with a guitar shot and Rhino hit the gore. No ref to count the pinfall. AMW came down. Rhino grabbed the guitar and swung but missed. Jarrett lowblowed Rhino. AMW hit the Death Sentence on Rhino thru a table on the floor. Jarrett hit the stroke and scored the pin.

 

Your winner and new NWA champ, again, Jeff Jarrett. They showed a shot of a bloodied Team 3-D backstage. The crowd chanted "F*** you Jarrett" and booed.

[BUTT 0]

What a surprise!

[Magus 0]

Thanks, Kevin Nash

[Fro 0]

Honestly, this was the right move to do. Puts us back on track for Jarrett/Brown probably at the next PPV after Genesis, where Jarrett gets destroyed once and for all.

[reign 0]

I'm not sure what to think although it will make for an interesting show for the first-timers...were they afraid to have the x-division match with the rest of the special's matches....having it spliced in may make it seem a little bush league but oh well.....

[reign 0]

Thanks, Kevin Nash

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Is it too early to say that once again he's f'd up a company royally? just the same I hopeA). a lot of people watch this show and B). don't think it sucks....

[Fro 0]

I'm not sure what to think although it will make for an interesting show for the first-timers...were they afraid to have the x-division match with the rest of the special's matches....having it spliced in may make it seem a little bush league but oh well.....

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You won't even notice it... they didn't want to put up and tear down the Ultimate X structure and kill momentum in the tapings.

 

WWE splices in stuff all the time. There's no way you'll be able to tell when in the night it was taped.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Your winner and new NWA champ, again, Jeff Jarrett.

 

Fifth verse, same as the first.

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Thanks, Kevin Nash

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Is it too early to say that once again he's f'd up a company royally? just the same I hopeA). a lot of people watch this show and B). don't think it sucks....

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He didn't fuck anything up. They simply put the storyline right back where it was suppose to be and Gave Rhino a push in doing so.

[Jebus 0]

Thanks, Kevin Nash

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Is it too early to say that once again he's f'd up a company royally? just the same I hopeA). a lot of people watch this show and B). don't think it sucks....

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He didn't fuck anything up. They simply put the storyline right back where it was suppose to be and Gave Rhino a push in doing so.

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That's why I'm surprisingly not pissed. It all makes sense.

 

Now, it's back to the original storyline they had in mind. Let's face it...they didn't have any plans for Rhino (or anybody else...yet) as NWA Champ. They just wanted a surprise / happy ending to the PPV.

 

Honestly, I think they knew if they did the short title reign with Samoa Joe or Monty Brown or Raven it would hurt them BAD so that's why they weren't the chosen ones for the upset title win at BFG. It actually helped Rhino in my eyes as he's now a main event face instead of an mid/upper card heel.

 

I'm not saying I like it (I'm indifferent at the result)...I'm saying that it's making sense now why Rhino got the title win instead of the obvious three.

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Precisely, It's simple business and the fact people are or will get angry about this are just voiceing their disdain for Jeff Jarrett and nothing less.

 

Brown, Raven and Joe programs are money programs they couldn't give away just because Nash got sick. Essentially, it doesn't change anything at all here.

 

What appears to be clear is that they are going with Raven/Jarrett III for Turning Point in december.

[bob_barron 0]

Jarrett having the belt is stupid.

 

Doing a pointless title change is stupid.

 

This whole thing sounds pretty stupid.

[Carnival 0]

I fuckin LOVE IT!

[Guest Coffey]

Rhino should've just never won the title and this wouldn't be a big deal.

[razazteca 0]

Why are they having so many title changes?

[Vyce 0]

Goddamn, I knew he was a short term champ, but Jesus, I was expecting a reign at least, I don't know, a week.

 

Regardless, these tapings actually look good on paper. Although I'm not sure what is going to be on Impact and what's going to be on the primetime special. When is the special again?

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Goddamn, I knew he was a short term champ, but Jesus, I was expecting a reign at least, I don't know, a week.

 

Regardless, these tapings actually look good on paper.  Although I'm not sure what is going to be on Impact and what's going to be on the primetime special.  When is the special again?

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The original post clearly stated what was on which show, the UX match was taped first and will be spliced into the 2 hour show. 11/3.

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I don't like the idea of Rhino only having the belt for so short a time, because it could make him come across as someone who can't cut it on top, and you don't want that in a guy who is one of your main players. However, the real test comes in the follow up. If they handled that right, and hopefully they will, then it might not wind up being that bad.

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I understand the reasoning of getting the title off of Rhino, because there was nothing for them and they probrably have some stuff laid out at least a month or longer out. Still, a little longer reign could've left Rhino as an Abyss type player, where he is over as a threat but you really aren't trying to build the company around.

 

Rest of the tapings sound solid enough and I'll be watching, especially since it looks like they are building Daniels/Joe.

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To the person that thinks Brown vs Jarrett is happening at Turning Point, well, I think that won't happen.

 

I think Jarrett will work a program with Hardy again, then Raven, then maybe Brown but no earlier.

 

It wouldn't shock me if Brown vs Jarrett didn't happen until at least a couple of months into 2006.

[Dangerous A 0]

As long as Monty is protected and the build is done, it's not a bad thing to hold off his potential reign. You don't want to rush it, yet you don't want to pull a Heyman and not pull the trigger when the people are hot for him. Same goes with Joe.

[Jebus 0]

Prediction:

 

Brown vs. Jarrett will happen at January's PPV (Final Resolution)...just like last year but with a different end result

[Magus 0]

Precisely, It's simple business and the fact people are or will get angry about this are just voiceing their disdain for Jeff Jarrett and nothing less. 

 

Brown, Raven and Joe programs are money programs they couldn't give away just because Nash got sick.  Essentially, it doesn't change anything at all here. 

 

What appears to be clear is that they are going with Raven/Jarrett III for Turning Point in december.

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To me, if this was their plan all along, they should have: dropped the title match at BFG, given more time to other matches, let AJ/Daniels run as the ME, and set up the next challenger for Jarrett instead of playing hot potato with the NWA title. Don't give the belt to one guy if you're just going to give it back. That's my gripe. As long as Rhino doesn't get buried because of this, I'm okay. Since he's going after Jarrett/AMW at Genesis, that seems to be what they're doing. After all he did at BFG, and getting the Kane title run, I just think he needs to be in the ME. Another name guy to give the rub is always good.

 

I think Raven/Jarrett III at Turning Point is a good idea as long as Raven goes over. Not speaking out of pure JJ-hate, but Raven CAN'T lose that match. Besides, Monty can destroy Jarrett just the same before he goes on to destroy Raven for the title, probably at Lockdown.

[2GOLD 0]

The title change was stupid. It just was. No way am I defending that bullshit.

However, the rest sounds great. The title match, no fucking thank you.

[cabbageboy 0]

Putting the title on Rhino was a silly move anyway. It really didn't accomplish anything other than devalue the title by hotshotting it around when it wasn't necessary.

 

Everyone keeps hyping Monty Brown but whenever I've seen TNA the guy just doesn't do much for me. Is he really either 1. All that over or 2. A decent enough wrestler that putting the title on him is justified? I'm not saying I wouldn't do it since TNA needs to push someone viewed as homegrown, but is he the guy?

 

I'd put the title on Abyss. He at least seems cool and marketable as a dominant heel, but I doubt Double J would stand for another main heel.

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Why are they having so many title changes?

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To try and make their product seem exiting. Although in the process i can almost 100% garuntee you that they will just de sensitise their fans to title changes, to the point where they wont mean anything.

 

Its times like these when you have to wonder if Russo's back on the writing team.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Wow, how pedestrian. *Yawn* This company just became boring.

[reign 0]

Why are they having so many title changes?

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Exactly...I actually agree that the booking of Rhyno winning was smart for all the above reasons...the problem is that now JJ will either be the chanp for too long again or we'll get another title change too soon which I cannot stand...I like belts to stay on people becuase when everybody gets a run it just doesn't seem as important when someone does win...at this point I would've rather seen Rhyno stay champion if only because JJ is stale...can anybody tell if Joe is going to be a face or heel... I never saw him in ROH so I don't know what he typically works as...I guess I'm just trying to figure out where Tna is going with their title picture...

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I knew that Rhino was really only a temp champ, so no surprise. Sounds like some good shows there.

 

And Monty Brown, I can't explain it, but I love the guy. He's a decent wrestler, needs a bit more seasoning, but he's got the charm.

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Why are they having so many title changes?

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To try and make their product seem exiting. Although in the process i can almost 100% garuntee you that they will just de sensitise their fans to title changes, to the point where they wont mean anything.

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Like what happend with WCW in 2000 when Jarrett became a four time WCW Champion in the space of about three months.

 

Why did they bother giving the title to Rhino in the first place only to give it back to Jarrett? Jarrett shouldn't be the champion or the figure head of TNA. I can only hope they are going to have him drop the title to Monty Brown but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.