MrRant Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5117306 Thought he would at least get to the end of the season.
Kahran Ramsus Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Idiots. Now Green Bay needs to fire Sherman and bring Mooch in.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Yeah the problem wasn't Mariucci. It was injuries, and inconsistent play at the QB position.
Failed Bridge Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 I'd say it had more to do with Matt Millen's personel decisions. Harrington has shown glimpses here and there but he still doesn't have an O-line capable of protecting him long enough to even take a 5-step drop. Charles Rogers has been a bust, Roy Williams while producing good numbers has had injury problems, and drafting Mike Williams may have looked good on paper but it was a stupid move. I'd say if the next head coach fails then you'll see Millen finally get the boot too. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Mooch go coach a college team either.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Yeah Millen's not long for this world.
dpac Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Totally agree, Green Bay would welcome him with open arms.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 You'd kinda have to vacate the head coaching spot first... and I think it will be more likely that the Packers offer Jim Bates the job if Sherman doesn't return.
Guest Vitamin X Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 It's possible they could keep Bates as defensive coordinator rather than give them the head coaching gig. I read an article recently on Yahoo or ESPN, I forget which, which talked about Bates, Monte Kiffin, and Jim Johnson, all great defensive coordinators who haven't received head coaching gigs and don't really care too much about getting one. I personally would just fire Sherman, Rossley, and the receivers and quarterbacks coach. Edgar Bennett is doing fine as the running backs coach, as is Larry Beightol, the offensive line coach. The defensive staff has done a great job this year as well, so I'd want to keep them intact. But if Sherman goes, Bates might go as well, since the decision to bring in Bates was Sherman's, not Thompson's...
Failed Bridge Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Monte Kiffin has said he has no desire to be the head coach of a football team at his age now.
C Dubya 04 Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Why is Millen so bullet proof there? He's done an absolutely terrible job, and yet he gets to keep firing coaches as the solution.
Guest Vitamin X Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Well Morninwheg (sp?) WAS an awful coach.
Failed Bridge Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 He's running out of former Mike Holmgren assistants to hire
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 He's running out of former Mike Holmgren assistants to hire <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He still got Gruden and Reid to look forward to.
Slayer Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 "I wonder if Ray Rhodes is available..."
MrRant Posted November 28, 2005 Author Report Posted November 28, 2005 I don't think Ray would leave due to his medical issues. Far less stress just being the D coordinator.
Slayer Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Joke. Serious question though... whenever members of the "Holmgren family" are brought up in discussion, it's always from his time in GB. Has anyone from his Seattle staff ever been considered for head coaching positions? (Mike Sherman doesn't count)
lomasmoney Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 I think you could also say that Mooch's play-calling sucked ass considering the personnel that the Lions had. With two or three talented recievers depending on how many bong hits Charles Rogers took the previous week, he should have taken more shots downfield. The West-coast style offense doesnt really work as well in today's nfl with 300 lb defensive lineman who run 4.7 40 yard dashes and 250lb linebackers who run like defensive backs.
razazteca Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Will the Lions get another WR in the up coming draft?
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 They can shrug their shoulders and claim Rogers a bust then draft a WR, yes.
Failed Bridge Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 from Rotoworld.com Speaking with emotion on the NFL Network, Lions Pro Bowl cornerback Dry Bly said most of Detroit's problems stem from one person - the team's quarterback. "They should have fired guys on this team a long time ago... I feel like there is one guy in particular who I felt like is the cause of this whole thing. That's just how it is," Pressed further on who that one person is, Bly said, "It's not hard to figure out. The quarterback here has been bad. He hasn't gotten the job done since I got here. Y'all just see Sundays, but I've been a part of this every day for three years... practices. You see how the guys practice and the practices have been bad... I really don't believe coach would have gotten fired if Jeff (Garcia) didn't get hurt."
Youth N Asia Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Not Steve's fault that Matt Millin couldn't put a team on the field for him.
Sass Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Millen and Mooch were "tight" buddy's IIRC and this move reminds me of Flip Saunder getting dumped by Kevin McHale after the Minny Timberwolves blew it last season. With friends like Millen and McHale, who needs enemies? Millen should have been dumped before Mooch.
Vern Gagne Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 They're both idiots, and should of been shown the door at the same time. Not so easy to win without Steve Young?
Der Kommissar Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 So, let me get this straight: The Lions dump Harrington because he was a bust of a QB. This was despite the fact that both of his head coaches were fired, he had a team of young, injury prone wide receivers, and wasn't even given a good running until they got Kevin Jones last year. The Lions also fire Mariucci, despite the fact that he had Joey Harrington as a QB, along with everything mentioned above. And yet, the guy who hired the coach and drafted most of the offense gets a five year extension because he did such a wonderful job? I just don't get the logic there, unless the Lions are trying to lose, in which case, I am sure they will for many, many more years to come. Well, at least they're consistent. Bring back Mortinwheg!
Sass Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 The Ford family and the Bidwell family compete with one another on a yearly basis for "Most Incompetent Family of Owners" ever since taking over their respective teams.
Slayer Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Bring back Mortinwheg! Dammit, I don't wanna have to see his chubby-cheeks roaming the sidelines again.
The Czech Republic Posted November 28, 2005 Report Posted November 28, 2005 Don't let that Heimerdinger guy coach his name makes me laugh
nogoodnick Posted November 29, 2005 Report Posted November 29, 2005 The Lions offense sucks. The play calling has been terrible all year and the line is pretty bad. They have talented recievers and Kevin Jones can be a very good back. With the right system in place I think Harrington could be an adequate quarterback given the weapons they have. They shouldnt be this bad since last years team won 6 games and lost 5 games by 6 or less.
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