Vince saying "Nigga"

[AlaskanHero 0]

When black people call other black people nigga, I find it offensive also. The only way, I approve of it is in a Rap song, because it is an artform, which is explaining the mentality of living in the ghetto.

 

Wait, so even though I'm black and I DO live in the ghetto, you would find it offensive for me to say "nigga". However, you DO approve of the word "nigga" being used when a rapper, who is more than likely rich and has no reason whatsoever to even come anywhere NEAR the ghetto ever again, uses it because it's being used in "art". The art of describing the ghetto. A place that they DO NOT live even remotely close to anymore.

 

Did I get that right?

[Golgo 13 0]

You're all mistaken. Vince was saying 'goof.'

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I just thought it was funny cause a close to 60 year old white guy called another white guy, albeit John Cena, "my nigga".

 

And at first, I thought it was sowing the seeds of a Cena heel turn, but now it seems Vince is a good guy again, so I doubt it.

[SuperJerk 0]

For those who watched Survivor Series remember the skit with Cena/Vince/Booker T, where Vince says "Keep it up my nigga" to Cena, and walks by Booker T, and Booker said "Tell me he didn't just say that".

 

Now, I am half black myself, and found the skit VERY offensive. Shame on Cena and Booker for particapting in somthing not only unfunny, but very racist. Booker should of not allowed it, by not particapting, no matter how bad he will de-push you. I'd rather be de-push then some rich white guy's jigga boo.

 

It's going to be very hard for me to watch another wrestling program, espically the way WWE is treating the African-American stars(Shelton Benjamin consently being jobbed out despite being one of the best pure workers in North America, and Bobby Lashley being the 1st person elimnated in the SD!/RAW match), it's seems you have to be Vince's jigga boo like Booker has for the last few years(HHH fued and the skit at Survivor Series).

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At no point did you explain why its offensive.

 

I mean, you do realize Cena is white, don't you? I just don't see how one white guy calling another white guy a "nigga" as a compliment is offensive.

 

Were you offended because you thought someone might think Vince was telling us Cena is really black? Or, as a black person, you don't want to be associated with John Cena?

 

I really need an explanation other than "it was offensive because I say so".

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I'm offened that the word is being used at all no matter if Vince was saying it to a Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, Arab person no matter who it is, the term was unfunny.

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Saying your offended that the word was used at all really doesn't explain why you think the use of it was offensive.

 

And "unfunny" = offensive?

 

The word "nigga", the way Vince used it, doesn't mean the same thing as it does when a white supremacist uses it to describe a black person. The word has had different meanings over time, and means different things in different contexts.

 

The truth is that the word began as a form of the word "negro", and was used interchangably with that word. The word only became offensive when it became associated with slavery and white supremacy movements, and the word took on additional meaning of "black, inferior person". It is because of this association that it is considered offensive when spoken by whites about blacks. Blacks took to the word, partially because it was the word some had ever heard used to describe black people, and others as a sign of defiance. Today is is used as a sign of familiarity among black people. Because our multi-ethnic culture tends to borrow black slang, it is becoming a word of familiarity among all people.

 

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

[Guest Leelee]

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

 

Yes, it's one of those things black people can say, because society has dictated that black people cannot be racist.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

I didn't catch the pay-per-view, but the comment sounds funny and I don't believe it was meant with malicious intent (although I don't 100% condone the use of that word either).

 

Besides, nothing tops the "racism" in the WWE more than the WM XIX match with HHH-Booker T with the whole "people like you Booker T don't become world champion." When I watch my DVD of that event I either skip the match or mute the commentary because the King's commentary is so racist it's uncomfortable to watch.

[Da Maintenance Man 0]

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

 

Yes, it's one of those things black people can say, because society has dictated that black people cannot be racist.

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Black people can be racist. It's just that blacks never enslaved hundreds of whites, raped their families & hung them on burning crosses. Don't get me wrong, racism is wrong both ways but because of how history has played out, whenever a black person does something that's seen as "racist" towards somebody white it's just meh. Wrong but meh.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

It's nice to know that anyone can do anything as long as its in the name of "entertainment" and if "characters" were involved, since both don't exist in reality. No accountability. No responsibility.

[Guest nosneb]

the fact that anyone takes what Vince says on screen seriously is baffling to me. Come on people, regardless that we are all obsessed it is still entertainment, you have to go into it expecting things like that.

 

and i agree, they did the whole corpse fucking angle, that was pushing it

[goldengreek 0]

All u nigga's calm the fvck down!!!

[randomguy 0]

It was clearly poking fun at Vince himself. The point of the joke is that Vince thinks he is one of Booker's homies and can speak to him like a brotha.

[Sass 0]

You're all mistaken. Vince was saying 'goof.'

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Brilliant!

[chaosrage 0]

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

 

Yes, it's one of those things black people can say, because society has dictated that black people cannot be racist.

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Black people can be racist. It's just that blacks never enslaved hundreds of whites, raped their families & hung them on burning crosses. Don't get me wrong, racism is wrong both ways but because of how history has played out, whenever a black person does something that's seen as "racist" towards somebody white it's just meh. Wrong but meh.

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Are you black by any chance?

[Da Maintenance Man 0]

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

 

Yes, it's one of those things black people can say, because society has dictated that black people cannot be racist.

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Black people can be racist. It's just that blacks never enslaved hundreds of whites, raped their families & hung them on burning crosses. Don't get me wrong, racism is wrong both ways but because of how history has played out, whenever a black person does something that's seen as "racist" towards somebody white it's just meh. Wrong but meh.

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Are you black by any chance?

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Yes.

[Da Maintenance Man 0]

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

 

Yes, it's one of those things black people can say, because society has dictated that black people cannot be racist.

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Black people can be racist. It's just that blacks never enslaved hundreds of whites, raped their families & hung them on burning crosses. Don't get me wrong, racism is wrong both ways but because of how history has played out, whenever a black person does something that's seen as "racist" towards somebody white it's just meh. Wrong but meh.

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Are you black by any chance?

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EDIT - double post.

Edited November 30, 2005 by Da Maintenance Man

[Guest Andrew J.]

You know, shouldn't we be looking forward to a time where "nigga" has lost its cruel meanings entirely and can be freely used by everyone? I'm not saying Vince is some saintly integration activist; in all likelihood, he did this for a little shock value and attention. But I'd hope that in 2005 it wouldn't really be anything that bad to begin with.

 

I agree with RRR, in that saying "It's his character!" isn't right because Vince doesn't portray a radical racist on TV in the first place.

[BruiserKC 0]

Vince is a upper-class, 60-year-old white male. He has ZERO street cred, first of all.

 

Regardless of the use of it...the word nigger, nigga, or whatever connotation it is to be used in or spelling it has is completely ignorant. I don't care if it's Vince, 50 Cent, or my black friends using it. In fact I won't let them use it around me...if my using the word gets them angry, then there is no need for them to use the word around me.

 

Now, what I see with Vince using this with Cena is how desperate he is to keep Cena as an anti-establishment face like Austin was. He's trying to keep that edge on Cena, to give him that street cred Vince definitely lacks and, to be honest, that Cena is sorely lacking also. Difference between Cena and Austin is that Austin's character seemed more natural, Cena strikes me as he's trying to force his Thuganomics image and it just ain't working.

[chaosrage 0]

Yes.

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Well that could be why you're meh on racism against whites due to something their ancestors did. Maybe you're slightly racist towards whites because of slavery. I'm sure a lot of white racists feel they have good reasons for thinking racism against blacks is meh.

[SuperJerk 0]

Since I have been called "nigga" myself on MANY occasions by black teenagers, I have come to understand that the word has more than one meaning. I wasn't being called "nigga" because I was being seen as a "black, inferior person", but because I was accepted. I believe this is the way Vice McMahon intended it, since the person he was talking to was obviously not black.

 

Yes, it's one of those things black people can say, because society has dictated that black people cannot be racist.

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A black person calling a white person "nigga" is racist?

[Guest Leelee]

No.

 

But calling a black person.... well, anything... can be racist. As I've found out online.

[SuperJerk 0]

No.

 

But calling a black person.... well, anything... can be racist.  As I've found out online.

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The irony here being that, in both instances, no one black was being called anything.

 

Which is why its so sad anyone would even get even remotely worked up by this.

[Da Maintenance Man 0]

Yes.

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Well that could be why you're meh on racism against whites due to something their ancestors did. Maybe you're slightly racist towards whites because of slavery. I'm sure a lot of white racists feel they have good reasons for thinking racism against blacks is meh.

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I have nothing against whites. Slavery & all of that is in the past. It's 05. The reason I brought up slavery is because that's why (imo) when blacks do something racist against whites it's not made out as big of a deal vice versa. It's not just me either. I can't even remember the last time I turned on the news or read much about reverse racism cases over white-to-black racism cases.

[Guest Leelee]

No.

 

But calling a black person.... well, anything... can be racist.  As I've found out online.

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The irony here being that, in both instances, no one black was being called anything.

 

Which is why its so sad anyone would even get even remotely worked up by this.

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True. But, that's just how it is. Stop trying to make sense.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I don't care.

[SuperJerk 0]

I don't care.

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Thank God somebody doesn't.

[Guest Leelee]

I never care.

 

I'm just waiting for my Beavis & BUTT-head download to finish.

[Golgo 13 0]

The Czech Republic doesn't care abou... ah, fuck it.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Some people seem to go out of their way to get offended by anything WWE does that they would have no problem with on just about any other show on TV (and this was on PPV no less). It's as if people automatically becoming thin-skinned little ninnies while watching WWE programming so that they can go on about how tasteless and exploitative Vince is while they talk about how cool pretty much the same gimmick/plot element/controversy is on CSI/24/Law and Order/Nip-Tuck/Family Guy/OC/whatever the next week.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Hey, Booker dropped the N word first on PPV, and used it on a white man. It's about time the white man got revenge.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

 

- You two are a bunch of faggots. How does Vinces cock taste? I imagine he has it so far up your faggot asses that you can taste it. God, it's like he's pushin so hard that shit is coming out of your faggot mouth.

 

"But but but but CSI does it" Do you WORK for the WWE cause that's their standard dumbfuck response. When the fuck does CSI do it? And even if they did, how does that make it right? Do you even THINK these retarded arguments through? Is it too much to ask that you actually process your arguments in your mind first before infecting us with your stupidity? You guys really should have been aborted, cause you're just dragging us all down with your inability to produce rational thought.

 

-- Hansel.