RedJed Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Oh I can understand Flair can still go, there is no question. Hell, I will even admit he got one of the largest pops of the entire night last night at the taping. But I still can't buy him as an ECW mainstay, maybe considering the history of ECW and how Flair was treated by such, which I admit I need to get over, but still refuse to. It's like if Sting came into WWE, it just doesnt add up to me. On a side note, I guess I am the only one who thinks Kelly Kelly is worth having on TV. She's sexy as fuck, but I admit is really bad at whatever she is supposed to do. But thats kind of what makes her entertaining. She is hot and has no idea what the fuck she is doing. Its like the ultimate dumb blonde role she is unintentionally playing on air.
Hawk 34 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Kelly, looks like any random blonde chick you see at school. At first glance, she gets your attention but once you realize she has no personality and understanding, lacks the edge she supposed to have, and that she isn't even a typical airhead blonde...you lose interest in her. Kelly, with something remotely close to a personality would be great because the character itself could be good.
Guest Princess Leena Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Her body is fake, and she's an uglier Torrie Wilson in the face. I don't get it with her at all. Well, I do, since there's only one reason someone like Lita can be the top woman in the company.
Hawk 34 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 What makes her worse is that she hates wrestling (no wonder why Vince adores her). She got the gig by a casting agent. Maria, is a complete contrast. Maria has a great body, personality, character, acting chops, willingness to learn, wrestling knowledge and natural appreciation for the job.
Jobber of the Week Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I never cared for Candice, but her little bit the other night was probably the sexiest "Diva" segment they've done in some time. As far as dancing like a stripper goes, she was carrying Kelly like Benoit carrying Albert to a decent match.
King Cucaracha Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 But I still can't buy him as an ECW mainstay, maybe considering the history of ECW and how Flair was treated by such, which I admit I need to get over, but still refuse to. It's like if Sting came into WWE, it just doesnt add up to me. I don't buy this arguement, and it's not just you. People moaning about Flair being in ECW and Show in ECW, saying it's not indicative to the company's past. Forget the fact it's not really ECW for a moment. Heyman would have given his left arm to have Flair and Show in ECW in it's inaugral days and nobody should kid themselves otherwise. The only reason Show and Flair weren't 'ECW material' was because they were too high profile and would have cost too much money, plain and simple. The only reason Styles and Douglas ever badmouthed Flair was to get themselves over. Plain and simple.
Guest JustPassinBy Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I never cared for Candice, but her little bit the other night was probably the sexiest "Diva" segment they've done in some time. As far as dancing like a stripper goes, she was carrying Kelly like Benoit carrying Albert to a decent match. I cared about women in wrestling like 6yrs ago, when Lita/Trish were headlining Raw. I havent cared since. I think Maria is a cute girl but I'm sick of her naive bimbo character. I liked Trish when she was less muscular. I liked Lita more when she was stealing the show from Essa Rios. I never liked Torrie Wilson, Miss Hancock, or Sable. Didnt like Chyna. Dont like Candice. Hate Mae Young and Moohlah. Dont care for Momma Benjamin. Dont care about Christy Hemme, Ashley, or any of the diva seach girls. Melina, Mickie James are ok I guess. Kelly Kelly is boring. I think women would be best served in storyline/relationship roles opposite males, rather than just random eye candy. . The Jericho/Steph interaction, or Steph/HHH/Angle interaction is infinitely more interesting than anything diva related. I just wish they'd disband the women's division. The women's belt is meaningless. Can they drop the women's division, and revive the hardcore division? I'd rather watch a hardcore spot fest with weapons, tables, ladders, and chairs rather than two women fight.
Astro7x Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Well, aside from there being a DQ in an ECW show I think tonight was possibly the best show yet. The only ECW DQ I remember was when Francine was biting Terry Funk's ear. I remember Sid being DQed at a PPV once. Too lazy to see if it's ben mentioned already
iggymcfly Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 How can you not like Lita. She does a great job of enhancing Edge's character without overshadowing him, and without her, Edge's heel heat wouldn't be half as strong. I'd say she's one of the 10 best characters in the company right now. Saying that Lita was more interestng with Essa Rios is like saying Edge was more interesting in the Brood.
cabbageboy Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I'm trying to think of that Sid match but I believe it was actually Justin Credible who got DQed going against Sid. It was more of a run in with no finish. The whole "non extreme rules" thing should have been an unspoken truth, not something mentioned on the air. As in Dreamer and Test could be a normal match, but guys like Sabu go insane and do whatever they want. I think TNA has it right in that regard.
Enigma Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Posted July 13, 2006 This might sound silly but are there any plans to do a tag division on ECW? I wish they had a 2nd hour to feature more guys on the roster and maybe do some tag stuff. Heyman intends to but they need to establish a show to hook people first and get the players in place before they get moving on a tag scene. Right now, they have FBI Roadkill and Doring Kill the drag queen angle and get Vito Logrosso back and reform DA Baldies with DeVito and put Credible in the group as well. Maybe York and Matthews can reform as well. I love how you make it sound like Heyman has any say whatsoever in the show. Haven't you been following? This is Vince's ride now.
MillenniumMan831 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I don't think Cade/Murdoch would be a bad addition to ECW.
Angle-plex Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I think Kelly is pretty hot actually, but I'm not going to tune in to a wrestling how just to see some bikini dancing. I can go online and look at porn within 5 seconds if I wanted to. Her dancing segments just seem like a desperate attempt to attract fans.
CanadianChick Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 How can you not like Lita. She does a great job of enhancing Edge's character without overshadowing him, and without her, Edge's heel heat wouldn't be half as strong. I'd say she's one of the 10 best characters in the company right now. Saying that Lita was more interestng with Essa Rios is like saying Edge was more interesting in the Brood. Oh please, if Ashley was the one that Edge cheated with on Matt Hardy, or hell, any other girl BUT Trish pretty well, it'd have the same effect. Lita isn't doing anything no one else couldn't do. She's a terrible actress who dresses slutty. Ooooh, such a tough role. Tell me one thing Lita has going for her that any other female doesn't have.
2GOLD Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 How can you not like Lita. She does a great job of enhancing Edge's character without overshadowing him, and without her, Edge's heel heat wouldn't be half as strong. I'd say she's one of the 10 best characters in the company right now. Saying that Lita was more interestng with Essa Rios is like saying Edge was more interesting in the Brood. Oh please, if Ashley was the one that Edge cheated with on Matt Hardy, or hell, any other girl BUT Trish pretty well, it'd have the same effect. Lita isn't doing anything no one else couldn't do. She's a terrible actress who dresses slutty. Ooooh, such a tough role. Tell me one thing Lita has going for her that any other female doesn't have. Isn't she the only redhead in the company right now? As for the SID dq, I think it ended in DQ because of Sabu. It's around that time they were running the "Sabu is banned" angle, which meant Justin won a lot of matches because Sabu would run out and try to put him through a table. It was at Hardcore Heaven I believe.
NoCalMike Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Regarding Flair's bumping ability, he may be WILLING to do it, but he is also one bad bump away from death, I mean watch him take a back body drop, he basically has to land 100% on his SIDE because his back so so torn up. I think him and Funk should have a "First to the Grave" match or something.
haVoc Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Went to set my DVR for ECW next week and it says ECW is on at 11:00pm (eastern time). There's some two hour pilot on called "Eureka" which is airing 9-11. Is this just for one week to debut a new show or did they lose their time slot?
Guest Timmer Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Regarding Flair's bumping ability, he may be WILLING to do it, but he is also one bad bump away from death, I mean watch him take a back body drop, he basically has to land 100% on his SIDE because his back so so torn up. I think him and Funk should have a "First to the Grave" match or something. Dude, Flair has been landing like that for decades...
EdwardKnoxII Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Regarding Flair's bumping ability, he may be WILLING to do it, but he is also one bad bump away from death, I mean watch him take a back body drop, he basically has to land 100% on his SIDE because his back so so torn up. I think him and Funk should have a "First to the Grave" match or something. Dude, Flair has been landing like that for decades... Yeah in other words every since the plane crash and they put a steel rod in his back.
2GOLD Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Went to set my DVR for ECW next week and it says ECW is on at 11:00pm (eastern time). There's some two hour pilot on called "Eureka" which is airing 9-11. Is this just for one week to debut a new show or did they lose their time slot? Just for one week. Eureka will be a hour long series following the debut episode.
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I'm trying to think of that Sid match but I believe it was actually Justin Credible who got DQed going against Sid. It was more of a run in with no finish. I think the match you're talking about is from Hardcore Heaven. The official result was a No Contest when Lance Storm ran in. Dave, I don't recall there being a time in the last 10-15 years that a WWE performer was disqualfied for use of a foreign object outside the ring, namely a table, in a non-ECW rules match. I can recall countless times that the Spanish announcers table was used as a foreign object, with no disqualification. Why is Sabu using a table outside the ring suddenly a disqualification? James Oyler Pittsburgh, PA DM: Because they thought people who they don't like would get mad, and it makes them feel good. I'm serious, by the way.
Enigma Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Posted July 13, 2006 Regarding Flair's bumping ability, he may be WILLING to do it, but he is also one bad bump away from death, I mean watch him take a back body drop, he basically has to land 100% on his SIDE because his back so so torn up. I think him and Funk should have a "First to the Grave" match or something. Flair has been taking back bodydrops like that since the 80s.
iggymcfly Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 How can you not like Lita. She does a great job of enhancing Edge's character without overshadowing him, and without her, Edge's heel heat wouldn't be half as strong. I'd say she's one of the 10 best characters in the company right now. Saying that Lita was more interestng with Essa Rios is like saying Edge was more interesting in the Brood. Oh please, if Ashley was the one that Edge cheated with on Matt Hardy, or hell, any other girl BUT Trish pretty well, it'd have the same effect. Lita isn't doing anything no one else couldn't do. She's a terrible actress who dresses slutty. Ooooh, such a tough role. Tell me one thing Lita has going for her that any other female doesn't have. I think her speaking segments are really good. She manages to get heel heat on the mic without being overboard and making herself the focus of the segment. Like when she and Edge were on commentary, she still made Edge the focus but added something every 30 seconds or so that helped get the character over more. Also, the little sneer she has whenever she comes out with Edge is a classic heel touch that most of the workers in the WWE (male or female) don't bother with. If you want to see an example of how to completely killl this kind of character, look at Sharmell. She's always shrieking and making big exaggerated facial expressions that distract from Booker and in the long run lead to him getting X-Pac heat instead of good heel heat. Melina also tends to overshadow Nitro rather than build him up as a character.
Dark Age Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Booker gets X-Pac heat? Well, I'm glad you cleared that up.
Scroby Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 How can you not like Lita. She does a great job of enhancing Edge's character without overshadowing him, and without her, Edge's heel heat wouldn't be half as strong. I'd say she's one of the 10 best characters in the company right now. Saying that Lita was more interestng with Essa Rios is like saying Edge was more interesting in the Brood. Oh please, if Ashley was the one that Edge cheated with on Matt Hardy, or hell, any other girl BUT Trish pretty well, it'd have the same effect. Lita isn't doing anything no one else couldn't do. She's a terrible actress who dresses slutty. Ooooh, such a tough role. Tell me one thing Lita has going for her that any other female doesn't have. I think her speaking segments are really good. She manages to get heel heat on the mic without being overboard and making herself the focus of the segment. Like when she and Edge were on commentary, she still made Edge the focus but added something every 30 seconds or so that helped get the character over more. Also, the little sneer she has whenever she comes out with Edge is a classic heel touch that most of the workers in the WWE (male or female) don't bother with. If you want to see an example of how to completely killl this kind of character, look at Sharmell. She's always shrieking and making big exaggerated facial expressions that distract from Booker and in the long run lead to him getting X-Pac heat instead of good heel heat. Melina also tends to overshadow Nitro rather than build him up as a character. 1. Lita should NEVER be allowed to talk on a mic or a headset again. 2. Did you just say Booker T gets X-pac heat cause of Sharmell? 3. I think your thinking of Melina, not Sharmell.
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