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[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

2.) I don't know 80% of the wrestlers involved in this promotion anymore. Looking through photos though they all look like steroid laced failed Mr. Universe contestants than they do wrestlers. I imagine they don't deviate much from "Kick, kick, punch, punch, body slam" as they have far too much muscle mass to do anything real technicle.

 

Who are you talking about that you don't know?

I'll run down every one I don't know as I scan the WWE homepage. Keep in mind I stopped watching regularly about 3-4 years ago

 

Bobby Lashley

Elijah Burke

Kevin Thorn

Matt Striker

Mike Knox

Armando Estrada

Chris Masters

JTG

Kenny Dykstra

Robbie McAllister

Rory McAllister

Santino Marella

Shad

The Great Khali

Trevor Murdoch

Boogeyman

Daivari

Dave Taylor

Deuce

Domino

Hornswoggle (Looking at the photo did they copy the lame-ass WCW version of a rabid Irish midget? Good god!)

Montel Vontavious Porter

The Miz

All of the Women that aren't Lilian Garcia, Torrie Wilson, Victoria, and Trinity. I also know Eddie Guerrero's widow by name alone and I'm curious as to what she is doing on TV.

 

Umaga would have made my list if I didn't recognise him as a previous member of 3 Minute Warning.

 

Seriously you really have no clue, since you haven't watched in 3-4 years, maybe you just shouldnt comment on wrestlers you've never even seen and judge them.

[Hawk 34 0]

2.) I don't know 80% of the wrestlers involved in this promotion anymore. Looking through photos though they all look like steroid laced failed Mr. Universe contestants than they do wrestlers. I imagine they don't deviate much from "Kick, kick, punch, punch, body slam" as they have far too much muscle mass to do anything real technicle.

 

Who are you talking about that you don't know?

I'll run down every one I don't know as I scan the WWE homepage. Keep in mind I stopped watching regularly about 3-4 years ago

 

Bobby Lashley

Elijah Burke

Kevin Thorn

Matt Striker

Mike Knox

Armando Estrada

Chris Masters

JTG

Kenny Dykstra

Robbie McAllister

Rory McAllister

Santino Marella

Shad

The Great Khali

Trevor Murdoch

Boogeyman

Daivari

Dave Taylor

Deuce

Domino

Hornswoggle (Looking at the photo did they copy the lame-ass WCW version of a rabid Irish midget? Good god!)

Montel Vontavious Porter

The Miz

All of the Women that aren't Lilian Garcia, Torrie Wilson, Victoria, and Trinity. I also know Eddie Guerrero's widow by name alone and I'm curious as to what she is doing on TV.

 

Umaga would have made my list if I didn't recognise him as a previous member of 3 Minute Warning.

 

Burke is hardly jacked. He looks under sized anyways. Striker is short and cut but he isn't roided up. The High Landers are just tall scottish guys. JTG? The guy is about 5'7 and is skinny as hell. MURDOCH? He's Dusty Rhodes fat. Dave Taylor looks like my dentist. MVP is far from jacked. Estrada isn't even a wrestler, he's a voicepiece with no body at all. Khali is a 7'6 guy with a thick frame. Thorne is hardly ripped, just tall and thick. Miz is a frat boy, all of them look like that. Of that entire list, only 2-3 of them can be noted as a roid monkey. Davari is known for his incredible work-out system.

 

Eddie's widow is there to keep a paycheck for the family.

 

 

I don't think he was calling those people juicers, just listing who he didn't recognize on the roster.

 

I'm aware of that. I was just elaborating on who these guys were and now they look.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

My proposed Summerslam main events:

 

Edge © vs Jeff Hardy- WWE Championship, Ladder Match

Undertaker © vs Kennedy- World Heavyweight Championship

Lashley © vs CM Punk

DX vs MNM

John Cena vs Randy Orton

 

Jeff Hardy isn't main event material.

 

And Cena/HBK already buried MNM, and Mercury isn't with the company no more.

 

A. Mercury not being with the company has already been brought to my attention, and I've already stated that I know he is gone, but I expect him to be back relatively soon.

 

B. Cena and HBK did not bury MNM.

 

C. My idea for the Edge/Jeff match would be Edge retaining against all the other main eventers in the PPVs following Backlash, and then making a challenge to anybody he hasn't faced one on one for the title, in any match of their choice. Jeff comes out, says lets do it, one more ladder match. (I got the idea from the ladder match DVD talk). People would love to see Edge vs Jeff, and its not like non-main eventers havent gotten title matches before..I'd say Jericho wasn't really seen as a main eventer anymore until two months before his match with Cena at Summerslam.

 

A) Mercury isn't expected to be back that soon, he has alot of personal demons to take care of, if he comes back it will most likely be next year. This case is similar to Eddie Guerrero.

 

B) Yes they did. Didn't you see RAW weeks before Wrestlemania, in that lame Tag Team Tourmil match where Cena/HBK wrestled and beat two tag teams prior to facing MNM, and MNM still couldn't beat them? How about Hardyz and London & Kendrick, constantly defeating MNM every week prior to WM?

 

B) Chris Jericho was a much more established superstar then Jeff Hardy ever was and ever will be, bad comparison. If this was some PPV like Judgment Day, Great American Bash, etc. then maybe this will work. But for Jeff Hardy to be headlining, let alone main event the 2nd biggest PPV in the WWE just wont work. Jeff Hardy is good in the role he is in now, he isn't ever going to be a main eventer, but will be a good upper midcard superstar. Matt Hardy has much more potential to become a main eventer then Jeff ever will.

 

A. Ok..I guess you're right. But I was just fantasy booking so whatever.

 

B. The casual fan probably doesn't even remember Cena/HBK ever wrestling MNM. And besides, it's Cena. He beats EVERYBODY. The Hardys are the most popular team going, and L/K were the champions. Now if the Highlanders beat MNM, that would be a different story.

 

C. Yes Jericho was more established but he was also treated as a joke for the last two years of his run. Jeff came back after a couple years, won the IC title, now he's won the tag titles again..he could certainly get a WWE title shot this year. And to say Matt has a better shot than Jeff at being a main eventer is ridiculous. Matt stayed around the whole time Jeff was in TNA and people still don't give a shit about him. Jeff is much more popular and most marks atleast would much rather see him near the ME than Matt.

 

 

B) They werent booked to look like a legit threat, they haven't beat anyone meaningful in years that would make them look like a threat to DX.

 

C) Are you watching the same WWE program I'm watching? Because Matt Hardy gets as big if not bigger reactions then Jeff. To say Jeff Hardy is more popular is ridiculous. Matt Hardy can cut a better promo, and is a better singles worker then Jeff Hardy. WWE Title Shot? Sure, I don't complain. Main Eventing the 2nd biggest PPV of the year? No.

[foleyfanforever88 0]

My proposed Summerslam main events:

 

Edge © vs Jeff Hardy- WWE Championship, Ladder Match

Undertaker © vs Kennedy- World Heavyweight Championship

Lashley © vs CM Punk

DX vs MNM

John Cena vs Randy Orton

 

Jeff Hardy isn't main event material.

 

And Cena/HBK already buried MNM, and Mercury isn't with the company no more.

 

A. Mercury not being with the company has already been brought to my attention, and I've already stated that I know he is gone, but I expect him to be back relatively soon.

 

B. Cena and HBK did not bury MNM.

 

C. My idea for the Edge/Jeff match would be Edge retaining against all the other main eventers in the PPVs following Backlash, and then making a challenge to anybody he hasn't faced one on one for the title, in any match of their choice. Jeff comes out, says lets do it, one more ladder match. (I got the idea from the ladder match DVD talk). People would love to see Edge vs Jeff, and its not like non-main eventers havent gotten title matches before..I'd say Jericho wasn't really seen as a main eventer anymore until two months before his match with Cena at Summerslam.

 

A) Mercury isn't expected to be back that soon, he has alot of personal demons to take care of, if he comes back it will most likely be next year. This case is similar to Eddie Guerrero.

 

B) Yes they did. Didn't you see RAW weeks before Wrestlemania, in that lame Tag Team Tourmil match where Cena/HBK wrestled and beat two tag teams prior to facing MNM, and MNM still couldn't beat them? How about Hardyz and London & Kendrick, constantly defeating MNM every week prior to WM?

 

B) Chris Jericho was a much more established superstar then Jeff Hardy ever was and ever will be, bad comparison. If this was some PPV like Judgment Day, Great American Bash, etc. then maybe this will work. But for Jeff Hardy to be headlining, let alone main event the 2nd biggest PPV in the WWE just wont work. Jeff Hardy is good in the role he is in now, he isn't ever going to be a main eventer, but will be a good upper midcard superstar. Matt Hardy has much more potential to become a main eventer then Jeff ever will.

 

A. Ok..I guess you're right. But I was just fantasy booking so whatever.

 

B. The casual fan probably doesn't even remember Cena/HBK ever wrestling MNM. And besides, it's Cena. He beats EVERYBODY. The Hardys are the most popular team going, and L/K were the champions. Now if the Highlanders beat MNM, that would be a different story.

 

C. Yes Jericho was more established but he was also treated as a joke for the last two years of his run. Jeff came back after a couple years, won the IC title, now he's won the tag titles again..he could certainly get a WWE title shot this year. And to say Matt has a better shot than Jeff at being a main eventer is ridiculous. Matt stayed around the whole time Jeff was in TNA and people still don't give a shit about him. Jeff is much more popular and most marks atleast would much rather see him near the ME than Matt.

 

 

B) They werent booked to look like a legit threat, they haven't beat anyone meaningful in years that would make them look like a threat to DX.

 

C) Are you watching the same WWE program I'm watching? Because Matt Hardy gets as big if not bigger reactions then Jeff. To say Jeff Hardy is more popular is ridiculous. Matt Hardy can cut a better promo, and is a better singles worker then Jeff Hardy. WWE Title Shot? Sure, I don't complain. Main Eventing the 2nd biggest PPV of the year? No.

 

Matt gets big reactions when he's with Jeff and/or in opposition to Edge. Jeff gets big pops on his own.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Matt gets big reactions when he's with Jeff and/or in opposition to Edge. Jeff gets big pops on his own.

 

Even when Matt Hardy was getting buried and Jeff wasn't in the company, and Matt was stuck in the feud with Gregory Helms, he still remained one of the most popular people on Smackdown. I have no clue what you are talking.

[mysterious_w 0]

Jeff has more exciting matches just because of the divvy stunts he does. But Matt looks more like a credible wrestler at main-event, and he's solid enough on the mic, plus I think he sells better. Compare that to Jeff, who's slightly hopeless talking and just kinda flails his limbs around in taunts.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

In news wrestling certainly doesn't need, the AP story on Cho Seung-Hui, the student who perpetrated the massacre at Virginia Tech University was described as a loner who spent time on his computer and watching TV, noting he watched Friday night wrestling. CNN's Hardball just minutes ago also mentioned that fact, which is likely to be all over the media today.

wo.com

 

Vince isn't going to be happy when he hears about this.

[RonL21 0]

Jeff is definetly top 5 as far as face pops go in the company....see the MITB Cutting Edge before WM......I don't care what anyone says....That ladder match Jeff had w/ the Undertaker back in 2002 or 2003 on Raw changed the way I look at Jeff.....I never felt someone deserved at least 1 or 2 week Title reign like that before or Since....

[RonL21 0]

In news wrestling certainly doesn't need, the AP story on Cho Seung-Hui, the student who perpetrated the massacre at Virginia Tech University was described as a loner who spent time on his computer and watching TV, noting he watched Friday night wrestling. CNN's Hardball just minutes ago also mentioned that fact, which is likely to be all over the media today.

wo.com

 

Vince isn't going to be happy when he hears about this.

I guess we wont be seeing Jimmy for a while.....But where I live if you look hard enough..You can find Women's Extreme Wrestling late on Fridays....

[JPopStarKami 0]

In news wrestling certainly doesn't need, the AP story on Cho Seung-Hui, the student who perpetrated the massacre at Virginia Tech University was described as a loner who spent time on his computer and watching TV, noting he watched Friday night wrestling. CNN's Hardball just minutes ago also mentioned that fact, which is likely to be all over the media today.

wo.com

 

Vince isn't going to be happy when he hears about this.

 

If they fucking try to blame WRESTLING for the shooting, and people believe it, I will lose all faith in humanity. They'll probably point to Grand Theft Auto again, though.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

Well, unless the guy was stunning or superkicking anyone, they don't have a case.

 

WWE tv has only featured guns once or twice in the last decade, I think.

[Mecca 0]

I wouldn't be surprised........

 

I've already heard the morons blame video games, why can't people just be crazy anymore? Not everyone goes nuts cause they did something, I don't think Charles Manson is nuts cause he played video games and watched wrestling.

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

I wouldn't be surprised........

 

I've already heard the morons blame video games, why can't people just be crazy anymore? Not everyone goes nuts cause they did something, I don't think Charles Manson is nuts cause he played video games and watched wrestling.

 

It was all those Beach Boys records he was listening to!

[Atticus Chaos 0]

I wouldn't be surprised........

 

I've already heard the morons blame video games, why can't people just be crazy anymore? Not everyone goes nuts cause they did something, I don't think Charles Manson is nuts cause he played video games and watched wrestling.

 

It brings me back to what Mick Foley says about wrestling being an easy target. If it turns the guy was a big fan of the sopranos, no one would try and take that off the air because its this popular, emmy award winning drama. However, smackdown is just a lowly wrestling show, so people wouldn't really be willing to stand up for it.

 

But, like I said: I think they would be struggling to scapegoat wrestling in this particular case. Smackdown is remarkably tame compared to a lot of network shows (24, Prison break) Even the more shocking things wwe have done (Kate Vick) have been more funny than offensive.

[Guest robrabies]

As stupid as society is, they won't blame wrestling for it. they'll blame guns, movies, music, and video games just like they always do, so they don't have to think about what actually happened and why.

[Mike wanna be 0]

I can't believe somebody put "Katie Vick" and "more funny than offensive" in the same post, let alone the same sentence.

 

But as we all know, this is Rockstar's fault. Clearly Table Tennis should be banned.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

I can't believe somebody put "Katie Vick" and "more funny than offensive" in the same post, let alone the same sentence.

 

Okay, maybe a better way of saying it would be"more ridiculous than offensive".

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Who was the last guy to cleanly pin Cena?

 

The Undertaker on the final SD before GAB in 2004. Great match too, probably the best out of their matches IMO.

[Enigma 0]

Ken Kennedy WWE.Com T-Shirt Poll Time:

#1

#2

#3

 

#4

#5

[Failed Bridge 0]

Ok, well if you stopped watching 3 years ago, what point were you trying to make by saying you dont know most of the roster?

I just found the turnover to be very surprising. Had I gone in 99 and stopped watching then looked back in 2002 or so I'd have probably recognised most of the roster still.

[King Cucaracha 0]

The slogan is pretty dumb, but #4 and #5 are the better ones of the five.

[BorneAgain 0]

Who was the last guy to cleanly pin Cena?

 

The Undertaker on the final SD before GAB in 2004. Great match too, probably the best out of their matches IMO.

I could have sworn Booker pinned him cleanly in an 8 Man elimination match for the U.S. title on SD in July 04.

[foleyfanforever88 0]

Who was the last guy to cleanly pin Cena?

 

The Undertaker on the final SD before GAB in 2004. Great match too, probably the best out of their matches IMO.

I could have sworn Booker pinned him cleanly in an 8 Man elimination match for the U.S. title on SD in July 04.

 

Edge pinned him fair and square to win his first title.

 

Why do people always respond to questions without looking to see if they've already been answered?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I might actually be willing to wear Shirt #2.

[muzz 0]

I could imagine someone hitting me hard for wearing the worst of those shirts.

[Guest robrabies]

Who was the last guy to cleanly pin Cena?

 

The Undertaker on the final SD before GAB in 2004. Great match too, probably the best out of their matches IMO.

I could have sworn Booker pinned him cleanly in an 8 Man elimination match for the U.S. title on SD in July 04.

 

Edge pinned him fair and square to win his first title.

 

Why do people always respond to questions without looking to see if they've already been answered?

 

Perhaps because incorrect answers should be ignored. Funny that you didn't look to see the response to that question.

 

Ahh Irony.

[foleyfanforever88 0]

Who was the last guy to cleanly pin Cena?

 

The Undertaker on the final SD before GAB in 2004. Great match too, probably the best out of their matches IMO.

I could have sworn Booker pinned him cleanly in an 8 Man elimination match for the U.S. title on SD in July 04.

 

Edge pinned him fair and square to win his first title.

 

Why do people always respond to questions without looking to see if they've already been answered?

 

Perhaps because incorrect answers should be ignored. Funny that you didn't look to see the response to that question.

 

Ahh Irony.

 

No, I did read it. I just consider the victory to be "clean" because it didnt involve cheating, ref bumps, etc. Funny (or sad) thing is, I honestly didn't think Edge would win the title. After Cena kicked out of the first spear I figured he would stop the second one, FU, and keep the title. That's how ridiculously Cena has been booked.

[cd213 0]

I think #2 isn't that bad, plus it plays to him being from Green Bay since that's the colors of the Packers. I however think that #4 and #5 are the best of the lot.

[cd213 0]

I found this on Wrestleview.

 

The Pro Wrestling Torch is reporting that Donald Trump turned down a proposal to do a follow-up angle with WWE and Vince McMahon through the Backlash PPV.

[Mike wanna be 0]

How lazy are the shirt makers when they get one design and make 5 different shirts out of it? I miss "the old days" when we had a catchphrase and 3-4 different shirt layouts for it.