OAO No Mercy Thread - October/8th/2006.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

 

Card and predictions:

 

World Heavyweight Title, Fatal Four-Way Match

King Booker (with Queen Sharmell) .VS. Bobby Lashley .VS. Batista .VS. Fit Finlay.

Winner: King Booker.

 

Falls Count Anywhere Match

Rey Mysterio .VS. Chavo Guerrero (with Vickie Guerrero).

Winner: Chavo Guerrero.

 

Non-Title Match

WWE United States Champion, Ken Kennedy .VS. Undertaker.

Winner: Undertaker.

 

WWE Tag Team Titles Match

Paul London & Brian Kendrick (with Ashley) .VS. The Teacher's Pets (Idol Stevens & KC James, with Michelle McCool).

Winners: Paul London & Brian Kendrick.

 

Non-Title Match

WWE Crusierweight Champion, Gregory Helms .VS. Matt Hardy.

Winner: Gregory Helms.

 

Singles Match

Montel Vontavious Porter .VS. ???.

Winner: Montel Vontavious Porter.

[Just John 0]

Actually looks pretty solid on paper. Nothing really must-see, but I bet the show turns out pretty well, about on par with Judgment Day. Anyway, predictions baby:

 

King Booker vs. Finlay vs. Bobby Lashley vs. Batista (World title): Every combination brings something to the table in this one. I know Booker/Batista at Summer Slam was a mess, but with the other two, I don't think things will get as confused and sloppy. I don't like the spontaneous booking (reeks of GAB), but the match should be solid nevertheless. I say Booker retains by sneaking a pin on Lashley after the other two are taken out.

 

Chavo Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (Falls Count Anywhere): Battle of the former Juniors. Should a be a decent match, as these two have good chemistry. I recall them having an above-average hardcore match on SD a while back. I think Chavo gets the Eddie treatment, and loses this match. He then gets revenge on Rey on Raw or SD.

 

Ken Kennedy vs. The Undertaker: I don't get why this can't be for the US title. Kennedy hasn't defended it since he won it. Oh, I know... Taker has to go over clean. Same old shit. Kennedy looks ok, about as good as he looked against Batista, but Taker still pins him. Doesn't help anyone, but I guess the marks will eat it up.

 

Paul London and Brian Kendrick vs. KC James and Idol Stevens (Tag titles): Should be a solid filler match. James and Stevens are pretty bland, but Team ROH is always fun to watch. I'm really shocked at how much they've been getting put over, so I don't see them jobbing to the greenhorns here. L/K go over clean, Ashley thwarts Michelle interference attempt.

 

Matt Hardy vs. Greg Helms: Another should be title match. These guys have done well so far, but hopefully they mix it up with some new spots in this match. Since it's non-title, Matt wins, but Greg gets to keep his meaningless and false label of "longest reigning champ in sports entertainment."

 

MVP vs. Mystery Opponent: This could go one of two ways. (A) The opponent is Scotty 2 Hotty, MVP wins easily, low card push. However, I'd rather choice (B)... The opponent is Chris Benoit who destroys a MVP who gets turned into a loser who can't back up his own hype. SD has too many guys filling the low card push spots like Sylva(i)n and Terkay, so I think going with choice B is better. Gives us a fresh, interesting character with real potential. Oh, and it gives us Chris Benoit. Which is always a good thing.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Interesting, 3 months after their last PPV encounter, the rematch is STILL non-title? Ugh, not a great card this time around. I'm only looking forward to Helms / Hardy (Awesome match at GAB, ending with a lame finish so hopefully they can upstage their previous bout) and Kennedy / Undertaker. I think Kennedy will pull an upset by cheating. Probably by hitting the Undertaker with the US title or something.

[Black Lushus 0]

how much do non big 4 PPVs cost? sorry for the dumb question but the only PPVs I've ordered since Summerslam 2000 were WM21 and Summerslam 05...this seems like a good card, but not 30 or 40 dollar good.

[gWIL 0]

Same price I think. I was going to order this, but they turned to the two matches I was interested in into one big mess. I bet Kennedy goes over to start a fued that lasts through the Dec. PPV.

[Mecca 0]

Actually looks pretty solid on paper. Nothing really must-see, but I bet the show turns out pretty well, about on par with Judgment Day. Anyway, predictions baby:

 

King Booker vs. Finlay vs. Bobby Lashley vs. Batista (World title): Every combination brings something to the table in this one. I know Booker/Batista at Summer Slam was a mess, but with the other two, I don't think things will get as confused and sloppy. I don't like the spontaneous booking (reeks of GAB), but the match should be solid nevertheless. I say Booker retains by sneaking a pin on Lashley after the other two are taken out.

 

Chavo Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (Falls Count Anywhere): Battle of the former Juniors. Should a be a decent match, as these two have good chemistry. I recall them having an above-average hardcore match on SD a while back. I think Chavo gets the Eddie treatment, and loses this match. He then gets revenge on Rey on Raw or SD.

 

Ken Kennedy vs. The Undertaker: I don't get why this can't be for the US title. Kennedy hasn't defended it since he won it. Oh, I know... Taker has to go over clean. Same old shit. Kennedy looks ok, about as good as he looked against Batista, but Taker still pins him. Doesn't help anyone, but I guess the marks will eat it up.

 

Paul London and Brian Kendrick vs. KC James and Idol Stevens (Tag titles): Should be a solid filler match. James and Stevens are pretty bland, but Team ROH is always fun to watch. I'm really shocked at how much they've been getting put over, so I don't see them jobbing to the greenhorns here. L/K go over clean, Ashley thwarts Michelle interference attempt.

 

Matt Hardy vs. Greg Helms: Another should be title match. These guys have done well so far, but hopefully they mix it up with some new spots in this match. Since it's non-title, Matt wins, but Greg gets to keep his meaningless and false label of "longest reigning champ in sports entertainment."

 

MVP vs. Mystery Opponent: This could go one of two ways. (A) The opponent is Scotty 2 Hotty, MVP wins easily, low card push. However, I'd rather choice (B)... The opponent is Chris Benoit who destroys a MVP who gets turned into a loser who can't back up his own hype. SD has too many guys filling the low card push spots like Sylva(i)n and Terkay, so I think going with choice B is better. Gives us a fresh, interesting character with real potential. Oh, and it gives us Chris Benoit. Which is always a good thing.

 

If they really jobbed out MVP in his debut on PPV after all the build up and that frankly being one of the better gimmicks, because they have guys like Sylvan who is frankly worthless and Terkay isn't getting over......it will just look stupid to me.

 

I bet Rey loses, he's suppose to be leaving for his knee surgery after this PPV right?

[Just John 0]

The thing is, they're advertising Rey and Chavo for Raw Homecoming. That's why I think Rey wins, then Chavo beats him up later.

 

And I think MVP being a loser who can't back up his own hype would be a better angle than MVP becoming another generic, arrogant heel midcarder. He'd practically be the same thing as Elijah Burke. Oh well, just a difference of opinion, I guess.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

I wouldn't mind seeing Benoit as the surprise opponent but the only way to go w/ that is a double CO.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

how much do non big 4 PPVs cost?

$40, plus tax.

 

I bet Rey loses, he's suppose to be leaving for his knee surgery after this PPV right?

Yes.

[cabbageboy 0]

I think someone mentioned it on another thread but MVP's whole gimmick is odd for a rookie. Why would Teddy Long give a shit about a rookie who hasn't proven himself at all? Even arrogant NFL players usually prove something at the college level. MVP would be funnier if he was this cocky asshole who was humbled initially by some losses, then had to regroup and gain some fan respect. It's the sort of angle Heyman could book, but can Michael Hayes?

[benn 0]

MVP is a terrible gimmick for a rookie because unless his matches immediately tear the roof down, he'll be utterly shit on by everyone. They would have been much better off using it on Shelton Benjamin or Gregory Helms.

[Just John 0]

Word on the streets is MVP isn't too good in the ring. If that's true, the loser gimmick makes perfect sense. There aren't many things worse than listening to announcers trying to tell you a guy is a great talent when it's obvious to everyone he sucks (See: Chris Masters last year).

[Insanity 0]

King Booker vs. Finlay vs. Bobby Lashley vs. Batista (World title):

Winner: King Booker (I'll say Batista or Lashley hits Finlay with the finisher, and Booker steals the pin somehow.

 

Chavo Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (Falls Count Anywhere):

Winner: Rey Mysterio

 

Ken Kennedy vs. The Undertaker:

Winner: Undertaker by DQ

 

Paul London and Brian Kendrick vs. KC James and Idol Stevens (Tag titles):

Winner: Paul and Kendrick

 

Matt Hardy vs. Greg Helms:

Winner: Gregory Helms (It's Matt Hardy in his hometown)

 

MVP vs. Mystery Opponent:

Winner: Benoit will be the mystery opponent and will win.

[luke-o 0]

It would be cool if it was benoit, but id like to see it be too cold scorpio. But i think will most likely be the bloody miz.

[Just John 0]

Scorpio's in Japan right now, so it certainly won't be him.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

The mystery opponent will probably be some "legend" like Greg Valentine or something.

[Human Fly 0]

Why so few matches? With only six matches every match can go over 25 minutes and I am sure that will not be happening. What is going to be the filler?

[luke-o 0]

Probably some diva bullshit.

[veseo 0]

It would be cool if it was benoit, but id like to see it be too cold scorpio. But i think will most likely be the bloody miz.

 

They won't put two heels one against another. If it's not Benoit, then my bet would be Tatanka. He's been on a quite long losing streak, so a job here to MVP won't hurt him much more.

[Aero 0]

Four-Way Match

No doubt Booker's winning. I'd say that Lashley has the least chance out of everyone for the mere fact that they changed it to a four-way. Finlay likely takes the fall.

Winner: Booker T

 

Taker vs. Kennedy

Kennedy should win to get the rub, but Taker winning wouldn't be a surprise. I'll pick Kennedy with a cheap win whether it be with a belt shot or holding the ropes.

Winner: Kennedy

 

Mysterio vs. Chavo

Storyline wise, Rey needs the win, so Chavo can "injure" him tommorrow on Raw.

Winner: Mysterio

 

Londrick vs. James & Stevens

There is no reason to put the tag titles on the bland team of James & Stevens. Londrick can use another PPV win after not being on TV the past few weeks.

Winners: Londrick

 

Hardy vs. Helms

I'll pick Hardy for no particular reason.

Winner: Hardy

 

MVP vs. ???

??? is probably Vito given that they had that confrontation a couple weeks back. It's MVP's debut, so he'll win, although Vito will have to be protected, so it'll be a cheap win, likely by holding the ropes since that's WWE's favorite cheap finish.

Winner: MVP

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

If they're serious about putting Batista against Finlay to get Batista back to where they want him, I can see Finlay winning the belt so he and Batista can have a lengthy program, which will see Batista get his heat back and will end with Batista getting the World title back.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I think Booker is going to retain through a screwy finish. They still have some milage to get out of his title reign.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I don't think they want Batita facing Booker T again. They cut that program short for a reason. I can see them going the route of a 'serf' beating his king for the World title. They can do some great comedy out of that.

 

King Finlay.

[luke-o 0]

If i was booking the show, id have had sylvan vs jummy yang wang.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

If i was booking the show, id have had sylvan vs jummy yang wang.

jummy yang wang is yummy.

[luke-o 0]

Jimmy Yang Wang is awesome.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

I'm surprised JBL just doesn't call him Akio to avoid confusion.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

Tonight's No Mercy line-up:

 

King Booker .VS. Bobby Lashley .VS. Batista .VS. Fit Finlay - The main event changed just days before the show because of a fear of a record low buyrate. The feeling was they wanted to get Batista into the main event since he's the big star of the brand. With Finlay directing traffic, it should be a decent to good match, but you still have an inconsistent Batista, a green Lashley and a champion in Booker who works up to, or down to, however the case may be, the abilities of his opponent. It's too early to put it on Batista, or for that matter, Lashley. It would be a surprise move to see Finlay get it, so Booker retaining still seems like the best bet.

 

Undertaker .VS. Mr. Kennedy - Kennedy is in line for a big push so how they play this is interesting.

 

Rey Mysterio .VS. Chavo Guerrero, Falls Count Anywhere - Mysterio's knee surgery is scheduled for two weeks from now, so it's not necessarily tonight where they will do the injury angle. The plan all along was to do it on this show so we'll see.

 

Paul London & Brian Kendrick .VS. KC James & Idol Stevens, for the tag titles. With The PitBulls now gone, the tag team division is back to two teams. Because of that, I can see Michelle McCool interfering and costing London & Kendrick the belts.

 

Matt Hardy .VS. Gregory Helms - Both are from near the Raleigh area so hopefully that will help the crowd reactions. These two have had the consistent best television matches on the brand over the past month. If they are allowed to, these two could steal the show, but in their spot on the card, there is only so much they'll be allowed to do.

 

MVP .VS. ? - I don't know who the mystery partner will be. If I was to pick it, it would be Chris Benoit and Benoit goes over to spoil the debut, since the two are booked on house shows down the line. That's what makes sense. So we'll see.

 

When you look on paper, they almost have to add another match to this show as well as another segment. To me, this is one of the weakest WWE PPV line-ups in recent memory.

[Downhome 0]

Like I said in the SD thread:

 

I've been thinking for a while now that MVP's gimmick should be that he's just not as great as he says he is, not even close. Have him job a few times, maybe even have him act like a goof in the ring, falling down and tripping a bit, that sort of thing. Build it with Teddy Long getting pissed that he even signed him, and every now and then have him make comments about how that's the last time he ever signs someone without watching tapes first.

 

It would be funny if WWE hired the guy to eventually just be a manager, and they are just doing this to introduce him in an interesting way.

 

 

 

I was especially happy when Jericho, Eddie, and Benoit (and even Mysterio, if only for a moment) finally won a world title. After watching those guys float from ECW to WCW and finally WWE, and really following their careers while still thinking deep down that they would never be given a shot at the top, it was just cool to finally see them reach that point.

 

That said, if Fit f'n Finlay wins a world title, have it be tonight or at any point in the future, I'll love it that much more. Not only have I followed his career since WCW, and I've loved his work from that period as well as from before WCW when I finally got a chance to check out his older stuff, but he's one of those guys who I didn't even think would ever wrestle again just a year or so ago. Much less wrestle in a WWE ring, being pushed pretty hard, wrestling in a main event, and possibly being given a world title.

 

I never once even imagined Finlay as a world champion, not in WCW and not when he finally popped up in WWE. Not that I don't want to see it, I do and I'd really be into it, but I'm just shocked that they would even tease it, much less possibly do it. Hell, I'm shocked that they are even giving him a title shot at all. Vince McMahon must have totally fallen in love with the guy to give him this chance.

 

 

 

Anyway, how many of you are actually ordering this PPV? I can't see it doing much of a buyrate at all. I'm not even going to order it, even with the chance of Finaly winning. If I felt just a bit more confident that he had a shot I'd buy the PPV just to see that live, but I really don't think they'll do that. I see Booker T winning once again. I'll avoid spoilers though and download it tonight or tomorrow.

 

 

 

As of right now, this is a five match PPV. I don't count the MVP match simply because they'll more than likely just have him squash someone, Funaki or Scotty.

 

King Booker vs. Finlay vs. Bobby Lashley vs. Batista (World title): Like I said before, I think Booker T will win after a fairly entertaining match, but he'll just barely be able to pick up the win. Honestly, it wouldn't shock me to see Regal and Finaly end up helping Booker T deal with the other two guys in the match.

 

Chavo Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (Falls Count Anywhere): Who is going to buy a PPV for this match as well? They've been against one another time after time, and honestly, I haven't been all that into their matches here lately. If they just allowed the two to work a solid match, it could be awesome, but we wont see that. We'll see an overbooked mess with Vickie getting involved over and over again. Chavo will pick up the win after he beats the hell of of Rey, somehow. Maybe someone joins Chavo and Vickie in the beating?

 

Ken Kennedy vs. The Undertaker: Many say that Taker goes over clean, which is why the title isn't on the line. I know that's usually the case, but why in the hell would they put Taker over clean when Kennedy sure as hell needs to win this match? If they don't want Kennedy to go over, somehow, then the match must end with Kennedy beating the shit out of Taker leading to Taker winning by DQ. I don't see Taker going over clean here, not with WWE pretty high on KK right now. I think KK will either win, somehow, or Taker wins, but only by a DQ.

 

Paul London and Brian Kendrick vs. KC James and Idol Stevens (Tag titles): How bad is it when I, one of the guy who actually still watches SD week after week, don't even know the names of two of the guys in the match. I don't think I could have ever told you the names of KC James and Idol Stevens without reading it here. If I don't instantly know them, imagine how well most casual fans do. Most fans more than likely don't even care about the team. I like what I've seen of them, but they really need to get them over more with everyone before sticking them in a title match like this. Then again, who else do they have to stick in there with London/Kendrick at this time? I say London/Kendrick wins, once again.

 

Matt Hardy vs. Greg Helms: This will be the MOTN, and should be given at least 20 minutes. I've really enjoyed their work together so far, and it should be even better with them being in their home state tonight. I say Helms will pick up the win, just 'cause. I think it'll be a really close one though, with close falls aplenty.

 

MVP vs. Mystery Opponent: I really don't give a shit about this. If they decide to push the guy as someone who is talented, then he'll beat Funaki or Scotty. If they decide to go the way with him that I want to see, where he just isn't as great as he claims to be (which should piss off Long and we'll hopefully get some funny moments out of him because of it), then I think Benoit will be the MO and will beat MVP.

[Hawk 34 0]

The problem with MVP as a manager is that he just isn't good on the mic either, and he's horrid in the ring. It's no wonder they'll be putting him with Benoit out of the gate in hopes of covering it.

 

It's really strange cause there's probably countless better people in OVW/DSW much less the indies that this gimmick would suit and they slapped with one of the worse wrestlers and blandest personalities around.